Woman offers a man $1.5 millon to father a child

[irregular guy]

10 hours ago, basil67 said:

Mate, I think you're highly gullible and you mate is having a lend of you with this story about being offered $1.5mill for his sperm.   I'm pretty gullible too, but even I can see that this is a tall story.

No woman is going to offer you $1.5mill for your sperm.  End of story.   So forget the fantasy and go back to reality.

You are placing excessive value on money, and no value on life. It is not just sperm. My friend is not the bragging type. He has never bragged to be about anything, nor has he lied to me about anything. He cares only about helping the poor. I am quite confident that he told me the truth.

[schlumpy]

4 hours ago, irregular guy said:

II am going to create my version of Heaven, here on Earth. That is how we will end poverty and bring about World Peace.

Since you indicate you are religious then you must know that for any man to promise heaven on earth is a false promise. There have been many men throughout history that have made that promise and it has never turned out well. Only the return of Jesus will accomplish that and no man is allowed to know the date of that great happening. Your role is to be prepared for that day.

I certainly believe in the ability of technology to make our lives better and help the poor. Usually it comes in small increments and not one big gulp.

Why don't you go to the off Topic section and start a thread featuring your ideas so you can outline them more fully and discuss them?

 

 

[major_merrick]

What I'd like to know is where's the $1.5 million for me and my family?  Because I would definitely encourage my husband to provide the appropriate genetic material as long as there was a decent contract.  I'm not the jealous type, I guess.... making sure that more of the world that gets born in my husband's image is a good thing. 

[irregular guy]

18 hours ago, schlumpy said:

Since you indicate you are religious then you must know that for any man to promise heaven on earth is a false promise. There have been many men throughout history that have made that promise and it has never turned out well. Only the return of Jesus will accomplish that and no man is allowed to know the date of that great happening. Your role is to be prepared for that day.

I certainly believe in the ability of technology to make our lives better and help the poor. Usually it comes in small increments and not one big gulp.

Why don't you go to the off Topic section and start a thread featuring your ideas so you can outline them more fully and discuss them?

I don't "promise heaven on earth". It is a R&D thing. We have to do research and testing, to find a solution to save mankind. The Bible tells us how to do this. It does not involve waiting for Jesus to return, if so the Bible would not tell us how to do it, so we can do it ourselves. The Bible would not be needed at all, if it was that way.

What we think we know of the Bible, is all theoretical. The Bible is very vague about he subject of Jesus' return. Scientifically, we know it is not possible, yet our preachers tell us it will happen, so we believe them. There are also verses in the Bible that tell us that the Jesus of the Bible will not return. We have no reason to believe that there could be a different person who would take the place of Jesus, coming "in the name of Jesus", as Jesus told us the Comforter/Advocate/Holy Ghost would come. There is no reason not to believe that he was not talking about a person.

Jesus told us that he came to bring division/the sword, which means war and hatred. While Jesus, himself, taught love, his church was taken over and converted, to teach/cause division, hatred and war. This was actually predicted in the Bible, long before Jesus' birth, as well as the fact that Jesus would reign supreme, "until the peace maker comes", which suggests that his church (which hasn't really been his church in ages), will end at that point. At which point, the new guy will "remind" the people of what Jesus taught or... recreate the real church, and bring World Peace.

People fool themselves, thinking that they have faith in God, but what they truly have faith in, is money and force. In my mind, money is pure religion. It has value, only because we believe in it. It has no real value, it has value only in our minds. So to me, it is all about what makes people do what they do, not what they tell themselves they believe.

 I am creating a new religion, which people will have as much real faith in, as they currently have in money and force.
All the stuff about God is theoretical, yet everyone believes they know this stuff for absolute fact. When people believe things as absolute fact, there is no chance of getting them to learn, they will not change their thinking. Only people with humility can learn. Only people who can accept that they do not know, can learn.

One thing I can tell you, for absolute fact. That is, that no one likes a new invention/idea/vision, except the visionary who created it. This is well known. I've been explaining my ideas to people for 20 years, and it is a complete waste of time. No one will ever listen. They only why to know if my plan will work, is for it to be tested, and I'll have to do that with my own money. 

[irregular guy]

1 hour ago, major_merrick said:

What I'd like to know is where's the $1.5 million for me and my family?  Because I would definitely encourage my husband to provide the appropriate genetic material as long as there was a decent contract.  I'm not the jealous type, I guess.... making sure that more of the world that gets born in my husband's image is a good thing. 

I think you misunderstood what this is about. This is not about one person getting rich. This is about ending poverty. That woman did not offer that money to just any man. She offered it to a man who was working on helping the poor, knowing that he would use the money for that purpose. Likewise, I have a plan to end poverty, and I would also use them one for that purpose. For this purpose, $1.5 million is an extremely small amount of money, but would be enough for me to accomplish my plan and save the human race from extinction.

[basil67]

Nah.  If she was a true philanthropist, she would have given the money with no strings attached.   The story is blatantly false.

Edited January 16, 2020 by basil67

[LivingWaterPlease]

On 1/14/2020 at 1:19 PM, irregular guy said:

 When an idea is new, less than 1% of the people like the idea.

I encourage you in your altruistic outlook, irregular guy!

And from experience, I agree with you on the above quote. People embrace the familiar. What you need to do is establish credibility on small things and work your way up little by little to larger things. It takes time, lots of time. And sweat.

I admire that you want to save the world. But I believe there is only one Savior of the world and all who believe in Him can work for Him and actually accomplish what they were created for by His power. 

Not that many people believe in Him, actually.  But I digress.

Anyway, I encourage you in your altruism! Far be it from me to mock or discourage one who wants to do good! I'm behind you all the way, saying, "Go for it as much as possible!"  And in the meantime do good for all, every chance you get. If we all do our little bit we can make a big dent in the comfort of others!

PS But please don't sell your sperm for any amount without consulting your wife. And don't plow ahead with it if she says no.

Edited January 16, 2020 by LivingWaterPlease
Adding a PS

[pepperbird]

ever thought about how your progeny will feel?

There's an awful lot of now adults who have a sperm donor as a farther. they are not happy about it.

[irregular guy]

8 hours ago, basil67 said:

Nah.  If she was a true philanthropist, she would have given the money with no strings attached.   The story is blatantly false.

And exactly how many of these "true philanthropists" do you know of? When a rich person gives more than 1% of his income, he is considered a "philanthropist", and 1% is considered high. Worse yet, these people do not even give their own income, they give profits from their companies, which means they take it out of the shareholder's income. Then they give it to a foundation which they created, and have them do what they want done. I don't know if it is possible to find one who gives with "no strings attached".

[irregular guy]

2 hours ago, pepperbird said:

ever thought about how your progeny will feel?

There's an awful lot of now adults who have a sperm donor as a farther. they are not happy about it.

I have studied the close calls that we've had with nuclear weapons, and the extremely dangerous stunts our governments do with them. I've come to the conclusion, that the human race is only alive, because God has been tweaking things behind the scenes. I do not believe God can keep us alive much longer, without us creating World Peace. So I am no concerned about causing a little emotional pain, for the sake of saving the human race. The human race is worth some emotional pain, and much much more.

[LivingWaterPlease]

5 minutes ago, irregular guy said:

And exactly how many of these "true philanthropists" do you know of? When a rich person gives more than 1% of his income, he is considered a "philanthropist", and 1% is considered high. Worse yet, these people do not even give their own income, they give profits from their companies, which means they take it out of the shareholder's income. Then they give it to a foundation which they created, and have them do what they want done. I don't know if it is possible to find one who gives with "no strings attached".

I know lots of people who give much more than 1% with no strings attach. And many aren't even rich.

[pepperbird]

1 hour ago, irregular guy said:

I have studied the close calls that we've had with nuclear weapons, and the extremely dangerous stunts our governments do with them. I've come to the conclusion, that the human race is only alive, because God has been tweaking things behind the scenes. I do not believe God can keep us alive much longer, without us creating World Peace. So I am no concerned about causing a little emotional pain, for the sake of saving the human race. The human race is worth some emotional pain, and much much more.

Great. You want to volunteer to endure that emotional pain? have at it. You have no business expecting anyone else to take that on.

[basil67]

14 hours ago, irregular guy said:

One thing I can tell you, for absolute fact. That is, that no one likes a new invention/idea/vision, except the visionary who created it. This is well known. I've been explaining my ideas to people for 20 years, and it is a complete waste of time. No one will ever listen. They only why to know if my plan will work, is for it to be tested, and I'll have to do that with my own money. 

Rubbish.  An inventor or scientist comes up with a new prototype or new research which shows true potential and people will listen.   Have you published your theory?  Got a PhD on it?  What were you peer reviews from robotics scientists, climate scientists, humanities scientists, political scientists?    If you haven't published anything, do you have a prototype?  Diagrams?   

I don't know what you are telling other people.  But if you've told then what you're telling us, you've given nothing which shows any promise to relieve worldwide poverty or indeed, to save mankind.  Your claims are too grandiose and you haven't explained how you can do all this for a paltry $1.5mill.    

 

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[irregular guy]

12 hours ago, LivingWaterPlease said:

I know lots of people who give much more than 1% with no strings attach. And many aren't even rich.

The poor often give 10% or more. The richer a person is, the less that person gives (usually). Having more money usually means money has more control on that person's mind. 

[irregular guy]

11 hours ago, pepperbird said:

Great. You want to volunteer to endure that emotional pain? have at it. You have no business expecting anyone else to take that on.

Seriously? I recently read a quote once, that said that the worst form of torture, is knowing how to save mankind, but not having the resources to do it. 

[LivingWaterPlease]

6 minutes ago, irregular guy said:

The poor often give 10% or more. The richer a person is, the less that person gives (usually). Having more money usually means money has more control on that person's mind. 

I know many wealthy people who also give more then ten percent of their incomes to charity. The people I know who give more than ten percent are of all income levels. I'm sure there are both rich and poor who don't give. but likewise there are rich and poor who do.

[irregular guy]

9 hours ago, basil67 said:

Rubbish.  An inventor or scientist comes up with a new prototype or new research which shows true potential and people will listen.   Have you published your theory?  Got a PhD on it?  What were you peer reviews from robotics scientists, climate scientists, humanities scientists, political scientists?    If you haven't published anything, do you have a prototype?  Diagrams?   

I don't know what you are telling other people.  But if you've told then what you're telling us, you've given nothing which shows any promise to relieve worldwide poverty or indeed, to save mankind.  Your claims are too grandiose and you haven't explained how you can do all this for a paltry $1.5mill.    

Read this: Diffusion of Innovations

I don't know why they call it a "theory" it doesn't seem to explain anything, just states the facts, that no one likes a new idea. Shows that after you have a working prototype, and a product on the market, there is still nobody liking the idea, and it has to be push hard with marketing. If I explain my idea to you, you will not like it, because that is how people are. You are no different than anyone else that way. Nobody likes a new idea.

[irregular guy]

9 minutes ago, LivingWaterPlease said:

I know many wealthy people who also give more then ten percent of their incomes to charity. The people I know who give more than ten percent are of all income levels. I'm sure there are both rich and poor who don't give. but likewise there are rich and poor who do.

Even if you do, is it something totally evil to want to accomplish 2 things with your money? Some people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on trying to have a baby, money which could be used to cure blindness in thousands of people, or something similar. This person may just want a baby who has a decent soul, while helping the poor with the money at the same time. Is that such a terrible thing, such an unthinkable thing to do?

[LivingWaterPlease]

6 minutes ago, irregular guy said:

Even if you do, is it something totally evil to want to accomplish 2 things with your money? Some people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on trying to have a baby, money which could be used to cure blindness in thousands of people, or something similar. This person may just want a baby who has a decent soul, while helping the poor with the money at the same time. Is that such a terrible thing, such an unthinkable thing to do?

If you want to accomplish good things, irregular, I'm all for it!  If you want opinions on whether you should sell you sperm or not, I'd say, "not." 

[irregular guy]

On 1/17/2020 at 8:58 AM, LivingWaterPlease said:

If you want to accomplish good things, irregular, I'm all for it!  If you want opinions on whether you should sell you sperm or not, I'd say, "not." 

Does the ability to save mankind, have no value? Does that play no part what so ever in the decision making process? 

If there was a war going on, and you could save a million lives, simply by keeping someone distracted for half an hour, and to do so you'd have to have sex with him, would you do that?

[irregular guy]

On 1/16/2020 at 4:31 PM, pepperbird said:

ever thought about how your progeny will feel?

There's an awful lot of now adults who have a sperm donor as a farther. they are not happy about it.

Statistics now say that 50% of first time marriages end in divorce. 20 years ago it was 50% of all marriages, which was much lower because second and third time marriages and fourth time marriages add a whole lot to that. This means it is probably around 70% of all marriages end in divorce. So how do the kids feel about that? I would say having a sperm donor as  a father is no where near as bad as living in an unhealthy relationship, where your parents are soon to be divorced, which might take years before they actually do it. Or living in a post divorce environment. 

[basil67]

1 hour ago, irregular guy said:

If there was a war going on, and you could save a million lives, simply by keeping someone distracted for half an hour, and to do so you'd have to have sex with him, would you do that?

Not gonna happen.  If someone is going to start a world war, keeping them distracted for half an hour will not prevent it.

[basil67]

1 hour ago, irregular guy said:

Statistics now say that 50% of first time marriages end in divorce. 

Source please.  A cursory Google search is giving me much lower stats.

[basil67]

On 1/17/2020 at 5:35 PM, irregular guy said:

Read this: Diffusion of Innovations

I don't know why they call it a "theory" it doesn't seem to explain anything, just states the facts, that no one likes a new idea. Shows that after you have a working prototype, and a product on the market, there is still nobody liking the idea, and it has to be push hard with marketing. If I explain my idea to you, you will not like it, because that is how people are. You are no different than anyone else that way. Nobody likes a new idea.

I don't know why you've offered this link.  You haven't offered anything detailed, let alone remotely tangible.   Come back to me with prototypes or peer reviewed research and I will listen.

 

 

Edited January 18, 2020 by basil67