Men over 35 their baggage

[elaine567]

The advice is now for men to freeze their sperm before 35...
So perfect babies produced with frozen young eggs and young sperm, carried by a surrogate.
What's not to like?

[carhill]

3D DNA print a human no biology needed. Print the DNA, grow in a tank, viola. Watch out for the mutants. Good Fringe episode on that. The boy must live. Observers were all male. No females needed. Baggage reduction plan. 😉

[hotpotato]

6 hours ago, carhill said:

Men process and describe love differently; we often see discussions of that on these forums.

Given the apparent widespread occurrences of spectrum disorders in young people, I'd need to see statistics on how old their parents are, particularly generational parenting, where the man is older, post-40 and the woman is in her 20's, so prime childbearing period. Else, results could be muddied by the mother's own genetics and age. Morgan Eastwood is a great example of old sperm, young eggs. Really old sperm. She seems pretty healthy and normal, as 23 yo women go anyway. But I have it on good authority that the sperm is quite special, a gift from God 👍

Regardless, he was still pining over the ex and in love with her. 

[hotpotato]

On 1/18/2020 at 1:30 PM, Andy_K said:

I'm 36. I don't complain about exes or having lost 'the one', but sometimes I do have to try not to complain about the fact I haven't found the one yet 😁

I haven't found the one either, and I dont want to hear guys complain about their true love who got away oftentimes bc of their own wrongdoings.

I'd say I'm caught somewhere in between with experience. I have more experience than an 18 year old but less than guys my age. Many in their 20s are married with kids where I live. I've had few relationships, and I dont meet a lot of men.  I dont have The List like a lot of people do bc I haven't been around that much. 

At this point I dont want to date. I no longer feel like dealing with men on that level. 

Edited January 19, 2020 by hotpotato

[basil67]

7 hours ago, stillafool said:

I think older sperm is linked to autism isn't it?

"The study found that men 45 and older can experience decreased fertility and put their partners at risk for increased pregnancy complications such as gestational diabetes, preeclampsia and preterm birth. Infants born to older fathers were found to be at higher risk of premature birth, late still birth, low Apgar scores, low birth weight, higher incidence of newborn seizures and birth defects such as congenital heart disease and cleft palate. As they matured, these children were found to have an increased likelihood of childhood cancers, psychiatric and cognitive disorders, and autism."  https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190513081409.htm

 

Edited January 19, 2020 by basil67

[stillafool]

OMG!  Not good, not good at all!

[fromheart]

On 1/19/2020 at 1:30 PM, hotpotato said:

Are these older men still having sex 2,3,4x in a span of a few hours without little blue pill?  Maybe I was unclear in what i said, and you missed the point which I was trying to say nicely.  Also, if a young woman wants someone virile and trains, plenty of younger guys fit the bill. 

No one said my ex had ed. I said he wasnt like guys in their 20s who are sexual bunnies. Mens sexual abilities naturally decline through life. You'd rather blame me who was a full 21 years younger than the ex (and still in my 20s when we met)than admit reality. He hasn't been with me for years anyway, and he fully admits age is catching up to him sexually. 

The 43 year old can start but not finish #2. He admits hes not the same as a 20 something. 

Yes, people can look good longer by having a healthy lifestyle. 

No, the rich guy is someone I know. He was well to do well before she died. He started a business and pulled himself up. He did not by any means marry her for a settlement. Hes so wealthy he can travel to europe just for a car part, and his house has been on TV. 

No, I don't take viagra.  I'm saying many cases of ED simply disappear when you're with a woman your attracted to.  Its impossible to not be attracted to a sexual, nubile young woman in your bed.  If you have an older, more masculine woman who tries to control you, your body will naturally reject her.

Many cases of ED are down to man being emotionally abused and/or being with a woman who is past her sexual prime.  You may get angry about this, but it happens to all of us at sometime.  As I said, women have more sexual power attraction younger.

Men peak older.  You can all get bitter and try and ruin it for men because you feel your time has past, or just accept that fact.  Everyone is going to get old.

Plenty of young men train?!  Have a look round your local bar or restaurant next time your out, take note of many men train.   Actually, take note of any men who don't have any excess fat whatsoever.

And if you have a man who gets turned on by being called a 'sexual bunnie,' I really do have sympathy for him.

Edited January 20, 2020 by fromheart

[hotpotato]

50 minutes ago, fromheart said:

No, I don't take viagra.  I'm saying many cases of ED simply disappear when you're with a woman your attracted to.  Its impossible to not be attracted to a sexual, nubile young woman in your bed.  If you have an older, more masculine woman who tries to control you, your body will naturally reject her.

Many cases of ED are down to man being emotionally abused and/or being with a woman who is past her sexual prime.  You may get angry about this, but it happens to all of us at sometime.  As I said, women have more sexual power attraction younger.

Men peak older.  You can all get bitter and try and ruin it for men because you feel your time has past, or just accept that fact.  Everyone is going to get old.

Plenty of young men train?!  Have a look round your local bar or restaurant next time your out, take note of many men train.   Actually, take note of any men who don't have any excess fat whatsoever.

And if you have a man who gets turned on by being called a 'sexual bunnie,' I really do have sympathy for him.

Why do you keep going on about ed? Ed is not in question, it's a man's natural decline that I was talking about. I get it though, you dont want want to believe men decline. 

I mostly look in Tinder nowadays, but I agree many men are out of shape. The average older men are especially bad offenders with the pot bellies, wrinkly old skin, oh and their hairlines have left the chat. Some are old and plain decrepit, but I guess they think they're attractive bc they produce sperm? Old men producing sperm and managing to eke out erections are not bonuses to young women. I have 70+ year old men trying to holla at me here and there, and I guess they think men dont age. Ha! The overinflated self esteem of straight men is truly a sight to behold. 

 

K, how about sex gods instead of bunnies? Some of them are truly gods in bed. Most of my fwb have been younger than me and for good reason. 

My time has past? What? I hope you're using you as in general and not implying that a fit, sexy 32 year old as myself is past her prime. I'll take my toned, beautiful past prime ass over to some sexy dudes, older and younger. 😊

[fromheart]

No, I've said that all people decline.  I said that women have a peak earlier and men have a peak later IF they work on it.

I've pointed out that older women are sometimes bitter about this.  I was very clear.

Tinder is a waste of time, the sort of women I'm interested in don't need tinder.

It seems you are very judgmental about the elderly.  That shows a lack of empathy, and any man would find that repulsive.

[stillafool]

25 minutes ago, fromheart said:

It seems you are very judgmental about the elderly.  That shows a lack of empathy, and any man would find that repulsive.

Really?  I've seen post of yours calling older women "Hags" and other things yet you are calling what Hot Potato says as repulsive?  You're kidding right?

 

 

[hotpotato]

29 minutes ago, fromheart said:

No, I've said that all people decline.  I said that women have a peak earlier and men have a peak later IF they work on it.

I've pointed out that older women are sometimes bitter about this.  I was very clear.

Tinder is a waste of time, the sort of women I'm interested in don't need tinder.

It seems you are very judgmental about the elderly.  That shows a lack of empathy, and any man would find that repulsive.

Most women find older men repulsive, esp if they are old enough to be the womans father or even grandfather. 

If you dont like tinder girls, that's fine. It has no bearing on what I do. You speak as though it matters to me. 

I agree that people can extend their shelf lives by healthy lifestyle. However, some things change with age. For one, a man's refractory period lengthens and his testosterone declines. 

Also, do you have anything relevant to the topic or what? 

Edited January 20, 2020 by hotpotato

[hotpotato]

2 minutes ago, stillafool said:

Really?  I've seen post of yours calling older women "Hags" and other things yet you are calling what Hot Potato says as repulsive?  You're kidding right?

 

 

Right. Lol. He said I was past my time, but its not repulsive to old and elderly men to holla at young women. I'm afraid this one needs more help than loveshack can give! 

If memory serves correct, he also went on and on about how young men dont want older women leering at them. Hmmm....

Edited January 20, 2020 by hotpotato

[fromheart]

10 minutes ago, hotpotato said:

Most women find older men repulsive, esp if they are old enough to be the womans father or even grandfather. 

If you dont like tinder girls, that's fine. It has no bearing on what I do. You speak as though it matters to me. 

I agree that people can extend their shelf lives by healthy lifestyle. However, some things change with age. For one, a man's refractory period lengthens and his testosterone declines. 

Also, do you have anything relevant to the topic or what? 

Well, I can't say I'd like it if pensioners were to make an advance on me.  I wouldn't start calling an elderly woman repulsive though, and rip on her physical appearance because that would be pathetic.   Just remember, when your calling the elderly repulsive you yourself will be elderly one day. 

I didn't say I didn't like tinder girls, merely pointed out that the most beautiful and valued women don't need to go online and are usually snapped up by 30.  If someone feels differently that's their decision.

[fromheart]

17 minutes ago, stillafool said:

Really?  I've seen post of yours calling older women "Hags" and other things yet you are calling what Hot Potato says as repulsive?  You're kidding right?

 

 

To be clear, I would regard a jealous, bitter older woman who seeks to make others as miserable as she is a hag.  If you aren't this sort of person, then I wouldn't regard you as a hag.

[hotpotato]

9 minutes ago, fromheart said:

To be clear, I would regard a jealous, bitter older woman who seeks to make others as miserable as she is a hag.  If you aren't this sort of person, then I wouldn't regard you as a hag.

Back tracking much?

[hotpotato]

13 minutes ago, fromheart said:

Well, I can't say I'd like it if pensioners were to make an advance on me.  I wouldn't start calling an elderly woman repulsive though, and rip on her physical appearance because that would be pathetic.   Just remember, when your calling the elderly repulsive you yourself will be elderly one day. 

I didn't say I didn't like tinder girls, merely pointed out that the most beautiful and valued women don't need to go online and are usually snapped up by 30.  If someone feels differently that's their decision.

But yet you called older women hags and said I was past my time at a mere 32. You need to be real, young women generally find that stuff gross. It's happened to me, and I've seen the looks on faces of other women. 🤢 I wont be 50,60, 70,80 trying to holla at 20 somethings, so wont have that problem. 

You feel how you feel. Anything to say relevant to the actual topic, that younger men have less baggage? 

[basil67]

On 1/17/2020 at 6:01 AM, thefooloftheyear said:

You don't want to hear it then just tell them you don't want to hear it... or stick to guys that have done nothing and have nothing to whine or talk about..

TFY

Or even better, those who have a history but don't cart around baggage to complain about.   

[basil67]

Going back to the first post:  You've sampled one young man vs a handful of older men.   I don't think you've got enough data to make your hypothesis about old guys complaining more.    There are young and old men and women who complain about exes.  And there are well balanced people who don't complain.   I would also offer the suggestion that the older guys who don't complain get snapped up far more quickly than the ones who do.  

[sothereiwas]

7 minutes ago, basil67 said:

Going back to the first post:  You've sampled one young man vs a handful of older men.   I don't think you've got enough data to make your hypothesis about old guys complaining more

That and the simple fact that a younger person is less likely to have a large selection of ex's to gripe about. Give'm time

[basil67]

2 hours ago, fromheart said:

It seems you are very judgmental about the elderly.  That shows a lack of empathy, and any man would find that repulsive.

And you sir, are very judgmental about young people.   Pot Kettle Black.

For the record, when I look at my daughter's young male friends, the vast majority are fit and trim.  And without exception, they are all working their butts off at uni.    I have no idea why you're so judgemental of them.

[basil67]

3 minutes ago, sothereiwas said:

That and the simple fact that a younger person is less likely to have a large selection of ex's to gripe about. Give'm time

Nope.  There are young people who can play the victim even if they've got only one or two exes.   It's not an age thing, but an attitude thing.

[fromheart]

17 hours ago, basil67 said:

And you sir, are very judgmental about young people.   Pot Kettle Black.

For the record, when I look at my daughter's young male friends, the vast majority are fit and trim.  And without exception, they are all working their butts off at uni.    I have no idea why you're so judgemental of them.

No, what I said regarding young men is that they should be dating young women.  Someone here said she is dating a younger 22 year old man.  I said that's fine, but I would advise him to date young women.  I was very clear in what I said. 

Definitely did point out that mens health is sorely lacking, but I didn't restrict my judgment to age. 

It seems that you yourself are bitter.  I am perfectly happy dating younger women, they in turn are happy dating me.  If you have a problem with this, then it is your problem.

[hotpotato]

17 hours ago, basil67 said:

Going back to the first post:  You've sampled one young man vs a handful of older men.   I don't think you've got enough data to make your hypothesis about old guys complaining more.    There are young and old men and women who complain about exes.  And there are well balanced people who don't complain.   I would also offer the suggestion that the older guys who don't complain get snapped up far more quickly than the ones who do.  

No, ive sampled several young men. Come to think none of them whined. In fact, one didnt even tell me had a kid. 

17 hours ago, basil67 said:

And you sir, are very judgmental about young people.   Pot Kettle Black.

For the record, when I look at my daughter's young male friends, the vast majority are fit and trim.  And without exception, they are all working their butts off at uni.    I have no idea why you're so judgemental of them.

I think most people are judgmental when it comes to partners. You will be evaluated and compared. People will wonder how you fit into and improve their lives. 

I had a man who was 85 who tried to holla at me. He could barely walk, but he was acting like he was a catch to a young women. Why would I at my age want to deal with that? I'm not trying to be his nurse or caretaker. Yes, I will be judgmental about the situation. 

Thos guy is a hypocrite if there ever was one. 

[Woggle]

Most of these online incels are younger men so yes they can whine as well. Whining knows no age.

[SolG]

I don't like whining. Particularly if it's repetitive and pointless. And like others I believe fixating on anyone, let alone an ex, is a red flag. 

But I do like that stage in a burgeoning relationship where you've developed enough intimacy and trust to be vulnerable, and share those stories about seminal past experiences that have helped shape who you are. And that includes relationship stories - familial, romantic, sexual... pleasant, funny, painful... To me this is a natural part of getting to know and understand one another. It's special.

I actually think many men over 35 are much better at this type of intimacy and sharing than their younger counterparts. There are some really insightful, mature men out there. You just have to find them.

Edited January 22, 2020 by SolG