Building a life together. Still possible?

[jeff0011]

6 minutes ago, SumGuy said:

It is not illegal in the US.

look up equal pay act 1963. 
 

Maybe it’s also unfair some men who are full time garbage men, make less than full time doctors.  They probably make 5 cents on the dollar. Same logic with the gender pay gap 

 

[sothereiwas]

13 minutes ago, SumGuy said:

It is not illegal in the US.

You're absolutely wrong on this, sorry.

[BaileyB]

3 hours ago, jeff0011 said:

Women choose to work in lower paying fields. 
so obviously they make less.  But the tricky stats are used to create a problem that doesn’t exist  

Women do not chose to work in lower paying fields. More women then men are graduating from high school and college - they are going into finance, medicine, engineering, etc... 

Edited January 24, 2020 by BaileyB

[BaileyB]

3 hours ago, jeff0011 said:

I just see an overall selfishness even in the replies, so can we just say women don’t truly want to be equal partners?  

Are we reading the same discussion - because that is not what the women in this discussion have said at all...

[chillii]

7 hours ago, jeff0011 said:

What would be the consequences of two working people paying half?  Isn’t that equality? Assuming home responsibilities are shared as well.

I know that makes some women cringe, but if both are working then why not ? I mean if a someone’s time is spent out of the home working for money, I am guessing it is all shared? If not what’s the point?

Do women feel less attractive and jealous of women who don’t have to pay bills? 
 

 
 

 

 

Thing is , once a couple get to that stage especially married as Elaine was saying it's usually just all in together anyway. But l do know what you mean about the so called equality bs , see a lot of that even through the forum here it's fine if he's got money but look out if it's her that's got money, l know. Never come across it in my world though. Gf and l because she does stuff in my business we both just live of the account l use from work , l don't really take a wage from work or her either , l just put some in this account and get whatever l need from that she does the same. She also rents her place out she owns that so she saves that money and if we marry that'd just go into whatever else we have.l rent out my other place too and that's separate as well for now. It's good to also both have some of your own stuff put away too especially if your not married but it's no drama. She also buys a lot of her own stuff and things for me or the house too, whatever , the bills here just come out the same account l live off so she doesn't sort of put in 50 50 or anything that fancy but with stuff she does at work and round the house it all pans out. 

She's had to stay up home the last few mths for some legal stuff so she's also working up there right now too to cover her legals but that's just so that we don't have to pay them from mine which is a bit soon for that with us yet but if not for those she'd save that for us anyway and add to anything we need.

Or something like that , nothing in stone but it all pans out. Atm she has no hold on my stuff and l have none on hers if say we broke up or something we'd be pretty right to just go our separate ways and still have our own stuff and properties, l wouldn't want any of hers and she doesn't want any of mine. We've both been through divorce once already so neither of us wanna be screwed over or screw each other over if things didn't work out. So we like the idea of both having our other stuff separately too it helps her feel secure and me too.

Had similar thing with gf before and when we didn't work out , on that front we sorta just grabbed our stuff and left so to speak , in that way anyway . she just kept hers and l just kept mine.

l mean you can sign stuff and blah blah blah if you wanna probably smart with some people out there butttt. anyway.

 

 

 

 

[sothereiwas]

10 minutes ago, BaileyB said:

Women do not chose to work in lower paying fields.

When correcting for time on the job and so on, there is no wage gap. No one who looks at this competently would contend so, even the NYT has put this pay gap nonsense to bed IIRC. 

Edited January 24, 2020 by sothereiwas

[jeff0011]

13 minutes ago, BaileyB said:

Women do not chose to work in lower paying fields. More women then men are graduating from high school and college - they are going into finance, medicine, engineering, etc... 

Come on man.   Would you say elementary school teaching is a highly paid profession? Day care? Predominantly women. Just one example. 
 

also, men on average work more hours.  They consider full time 35 hours a week.  So if men average 41 a week they are both considered “full time” and that is added into the stat.  
 

Anyway, there is NO GAP when comparing apples to apples.   Check out how they come up with the 23 cents and get back to us. 

[sothereiwas]

One statistic that should say a lot: Men are 10x (not 10%) more likely to be killed on the job than women. When it comes to "why should we pay you more for a task that's superficially similar", "I'm 10x more likely to die" is, as it turns out, a pretty good answer. Men work more outside, more in bad conditions, longer hours, are less likely to take time off mid-career, and so on. 

In addition, men are more likely to take risks in their career path, and tend to negotiate harder for pay. 

I'm not complaining, I'm just explaining the facts. 

[jeff0011]

What about the “tax gender gap”.  Where men pay 200 percent of the taxes that women do???? While women get far more of the benefits!   Women literally cost more to the state than a benefit  

Another way men support women. 

Edited January 24, 2020 by jeff0011

[Tristian]

Folks, since we are getting awfully close to "gender wars" territory were going to shut this one down as that never ends well.