2BGoodAgain Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gaeta said: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced a $1.1-billion package of new measures in response to COVID-19, including increased health transfers to the provinces and territories, a boost in research funding and improved Employment Insurance sickness benefits for quarantined workers. I think that money is for us. i wonder how much of it actually goes into today.... a lot of times, these things create parks for hospitals or funds a new wing that fights viruses...10yrs from now.. when the building is complete. Link to post Share on other sites
eleanorrigby Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 My daughters hotel had a meeting today where they advised everyone that hours will be cut drastically soon and as soon as they see the cut on the schedule, they should all apply for unemployment. They are going down to managers and salaried staff. She said everything slowed down this week and its a ghost town. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Minneloa Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, eleanorrigby said: My daughters hotel had a meeting today where they advised everyone that hours will be cut drastically soon and as soon as they see the cut on the schedule, they should all apply for unemployment. They are going down to managers and salaried staff. She said everything slowed down this week and its a ghost town. Do you mind sharing your general geographic location? Link to post Share on other sites
eleanorrigby Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Southern CA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RecentChange Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) With all of the cancelled events in our area - conventions, sporting events, concerts etc - we are looking at a huge loss to the local economy. Santa Clara county (silicon valley) has banned all gatherings over 1,000. The events cancelled so far at San Francisco's convention center usually bring in $350,000,000 in revenue - the ones cancelled so far, more will likely cancel if this keeps up. Layoffs already happening in the service sector. County is putting a moratorium on evictions - our huge homeless population is at danger and the hope is to not to add more to that number. It's a mess for sure. Edited March 11, 2020 by RecentChange Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Well, it happened today. The NCAA Basketball Tournament is going to be "fan-less".....that is UNREAL. I guess I won't be in Atlanta for the Final Four. There is no telling what this will cost the host cities. I did hear that family members are allowed to come but there will be venues that look like ghost towns. Link to post Share on other sites
Minneloa Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 The whole situation is surreal. Today I learned that my workplace will go online-only for the next three weeks, possibly longer. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 At this point any test or treatment for this should be 100% free. We need a Manhattan Project level type of operation to get this under control. I seriously can't believe how believed our government is handling this. Everybody made of fun of doomsday preppers but maybe they were right all along because our government will not help us and it is clear many people still think profits are above human lives. It almost makes me want to buy a house in the middle of nowhere and just ride it out for the next year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 What I read says you'll just expose yourself to catching it and so not to go the er just to find out. Better to go to a small doctor clinic, not somewhere with a lot of people. I mean, it's a catch 22. I'm at very high risk because it attacks bronchia and lungs and I already have constant problems with that. Link to post Share on other sites
RecentChange Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Woggle said: At this point any test or treatment for this should be 100% free. In California, the governor has mandated that all coronavirus tests be free - BUT that is for those with private insurance or medi-cal. If someone never bothered to sign up for insurance, I guess they are SOL. As for free treatment, while I agree with you, this is America and I can only imagine the screams of communism. People die every day because of a lack of healthcare and medical insurance. I am not certain that a bad flu is going to change that. Link to post Share on other sites
Redhead14 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RecentChange said: If someone never bothered to sign up for insurance, I guess they are SOL. That is an unfair statement -- "never bothered to sign up for insurance". For lots of people, Obamacare is not affordable! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The purpose of our government is to protect us. We can spend billions protecting Americans from so called enemies we can see but we can't spend money protecting Americans from a microscopic enemy. It's a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites
RecentChange Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: That is an unfair statement -- "never bothered to sign up for insurance". For lots of people, Obamacare is not affordable! In California there are subsidies to make it affordable. Before the Affordable Care Act my mother on a fixed income of $1,600 had a premium of $1,200. After the act her premium was $250. I suppose still not "affordable" to some, but without universal health care, I don't know how we are going to provide free medical care. In CA, people should be insured. If they can't afford private, they should qualify for Medi-Cal which is available to our low income residents. I am not sure what state you live in, but perhaps your governor should make tests and treatment free for all, insured or not. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Woggle said: The purpose of our government is to protect us. That's actually debatable. IMO and from the founding documents we have left to us, it looks more like the function of the government is intended to be the protection of our rights. Subtle but different proposition. Also, altogether more compatible with a free people. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 How free can you be if we don't get a pandemic under control? Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Woggle said: How free can you be if we don't get a pandemic under control? Free to move to the middle of nowhere and ride it out? Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, sothereiwas said: Free to move to the middle of nowhere and ride it out? That is not a permanent way of life for most people. Wouldn't it be better for the government to put every resource into fighting this thing so we can return to some normalcy as soon as possible? Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 My daughter just told me Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson both tested positive. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The way it works up here is you cannot just show up in a clinic. There is a 811 number to reach a nurse, she asks a bunch of questions and if she decides you should be tested she sends you to a very specific hospital that is prepared to care for people with covid-19. It seems to work fine so far but the line is getting busier as we get more paranoid. We have a trip planned to Toronto with my teen and her friend to attend a concert at the end of May, she is hanging on to hope but I doubt everything will be cleared by then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SincereOnlineGuy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Don't give up yet, people. Coronavirus still seems somewhat selective in its targets. (of course that isn't natural selectivity - rather, man-made selectivity by nature of travel) Consider these places: Russia 144 million people < 2300 miles from Wuhan "20" confirmed cases in the largest country on earth, which spans 11 timezones (picked a spot near to the middle for the distance) (*If your NCAA team played at 8pm in Russia's westernmost timezone, the game would end at 9am the next day on their east coast) Nepal 29 million people 1750 miles from Wuhan ONE case reported to date, in someone who "recovered" Bangladesh 165 million people 1540 miles from Wuhan "3" confirmed cases to date Cambodia 16 million people 1500 miles from Wuhan "3" confirmed cases of the virus to date Myanmar 53 million people 1300 miles from Wuhan ZERO confirmed cases to date Laos 6.9 million people 950 miles from Wuhan ZERO confirmed cases to date So once again, this isn't something that is circulating via the tides (and/or the water supply), pre-destined to ravage the whole of humanity. It is moving around on paths which people travel and knowing greatest transmission via paths which people travel a lot, thus the steps very recently taken all across the planet have every hope and reason to considerably stem the tide of the virus. Now IF, say, the virus developed a strong-hold in Africa somewhere... two conflicting schools of thought are that it could run rampant given their inferior medicine and facilities... OR it might NOT travel so easily from place to place given that people there probably don't so easily go from coast to coast as happens routinely in North America. It's still too soon to panic... and you will still be able to fill-out your NCAA Bracket (it'll just be spooky when the ***pressure*** is supposedly ON, yet you don't hear any fan noise). (MAYbe you'll be able to hear the NET hit the floor when somebody cuts it down ??? ) Edited March 12, 2020 by SincereOnlineGuy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 China is all over Africa with 101 billion in import-export and building entire cities with 200,000 chinese workers all over African continent. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I wonder why Russia has been mostly spared. I wouldn't put it past Putin to not accurately report numbers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mrin Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, sothereiwas said: Free to move to the middle of nowhere and ride it out? Hi. I live in the very definition of no where. There are precisely four paved roads into my county. And only one paved road into my town. It is winter and everything else is impassible. We were one of 3 counties in the US to completely avoid the Spanish Flu of 1918. We have 7 cases of COVID-19 in the county so far. Up from 0 two days ago. Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I am thinking no Mardi Gras this weekend. The NBA has postponed their ENTIRE season. It has gotten REAL very quickly. The beach is where I am headed Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, simpycurious said: I am thinking no Mardi Gras this weekend. You’re probably right since that was in February. You feeling okay? Link to post Share on other sites
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