Ruby Slippers Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 The pharma industry - one of the dirtiest and most twisted industries on the planet - spends a ton of money on drug ads. And of course, pharma companies offer big financial incentives to doctors to push their drugs. Feeling sad, aimless, stressed? Talk to your doctor about FIX-IT-ALL, the powerful new drug that numbs you to all your problems! Side effects may include a litany of life-threatening complications, but hey, you can get your mojo back with FIX-IT-ALL! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Libby1 said: In normal circumstances it would look and feel completely weird and paranoid to ensure you stayed 2 metres away from every person you encountered. I want this to be the new normal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mark clemson Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Ellener said: how so? I'm not 100% sure that's correct, or the details of how that works, which is why I used "suspect". However, my suspicion is that Cipro is sold for a much higher price in the US and probably certain other countries as well, and the profits from those sales enable the manufacturer to sell them in other countries at "what they market will bear" there. I could be wrong - perhaps their gov't buys in sufficient bulk or buys other drugs and get cipro as a "thrown in" or something and so it's available for $7. For all that pharma companies get bashed they do make some efforts to make drugs available when they otherwise might not be (while making their buku profits, which is also true). Which is compassionate. They are also a business though and their express purpose is to make money. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ellener Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Seems people are notably less likely to contract the infection outdoors @Libby1 especially with handwashing and masks. One place I feel certain the Covid-19 figures will rise again is nursing homes, the fear is that as soon conditions ease up an outbreak quickly occurs. The federal figures were just released with specific nursing home data, the info is published on data.cms.gov website. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Ellener said: Seems people are notably less likely to contract the infection outdoors @Libby1 especially with handwashing and masks. Only due to the dilution effects of fresh air, it doesn't work if everyone is cheek by jowl and breathing in each other's air. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Minneloa Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) I had a Covid-19 test today, out of an abundance of caution. It felt like a rite of passage in the zombie apocalypse. But I am grateful that the test was available, and thankful for the information I will have in 24 hours. 🙏 🤞 P.S. It didn’t hurt that much. The nurse said, “We’ve learned that we don’t have to go so deep.” Just a small shock of having the swab up my nose. Edited June 12, 2020 by Minneloa 4 Link to post Share on other sites
lana-banana Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 A pretty scary story out of Florida in the Miami Herald. The title is "Floridians flattened the COVID curve. Then, amid upbeat talk, the numbers began to rise" While the story is scary, it's not unique. Plenty of states reopened way too early or didn't shut at all, and they're reaping the consequences now. For all the talk about the poor ~~~economy~~~, it's gonna be a hell of a lot worse in August and September. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, lana-banana said: Plenty of states reopened way too early or didn't shut at all, and they're reaping the consequences now. People running riot in the streets probably did more damage than a few people wearing masks in a public park. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Redhead14 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, lana-banana said: A pretty scary story out of Florida in the Miami Herald. The title is "Floridians flattened the COVID curve. Then, amid upbeat talk, the numbers began to rise" While the story is scary, it's not unique. Plenty of states reopened way too early or didn't shut at all, and they're reaping the consequences now. For all the talk about the poor ~~~economy~~~, it's gonna be a hell of a lot worse in August and September. Yep, and the vacationers will be coming home to wherever they came from and bringing it back to states that were recovering. Do they even realize just how many OLD people live in Florida and not in nursing homes and what a disaster that could be? If Florida is decimated by this virus, the economic affects will spiral out to the Feds and thereby affecting the rest of the people too. I'm staying inside indefinitely, ordering online for as much as I can and doing without anything I can't order. I'm doing telemed for doctor appointments and prescription delivery if necessary. Save every dime you can too! Continue stocking up on groceries as much as you can too. And don't forget toilet paper I'm sorry to say, that I'm a little jaded toward all the people who decided to blow off wearing masks and crowding, etc. I don't care if they get sick except that it will become a burden on the healthcare system which is what we'd been trying to avoid which in turn becomes our problem too. They are essentially trashing the original efforts we took to curb this thing instead of bolstering the effort going forward. They are crippling any hope of economic recovery for longer than originally expected. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Here's 1000 words as of today: https://covidtracking.com/static/f568a86f490ad53fc0c9f36d815bacf4/f3583/john-hopkins-chart.png Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Correct me if I am wrong, but if they are testing more now than at any other time, then obviously the numbers are going to look higher...Just think of all the people that had it(or believe they did "raises hand") and beat it, or were asymptomatic and were never counted...If they are being counted now, then how can anyone use this data to make any conclusions with regard to how bad it is now vs then?? The testing criteria would have had to be the same to make any conclusion, otherwise its noteworthy but not anything that can be used as a comparison.. TFY 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ellener Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 We were told our numbers would go up with the reopening, and they are 2 % up daily for three days, according to headlines. I'd have to examine in more detail to see what that means, for example we don't collect data on the deaths for Sunday until monday so that always looks like a spike, and our officials don't agree on the re-opening timeline! so there's a little dynamic between the mayor and county judge and governor! I'm continuing to stay home and still just dating over the phone/computer for another few days. Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, thefooloftheyear said: Correct me if I am wrong, but if they are testing more now than at any other time, then obviously the numbers are going to look higher. The above linked chart is actually pretty interesting if one looks at it a bit. Several trends are visible there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Philosopher Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/coronavirus-mutations-scripps-gene/index.html This article confirms what many have suspected, that there is more infectious strain in circulation. This may partly explain why some parts of the world such as Western Europe, South America and New York have suffered so much while places such as California and Thailand have been less impacted. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
schlumpy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Philosopher said: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/coronavirus-mutations-scripps-gene/index.html This article confirms what many have suspected, that there is more infectious strain in circulation. This may partly explain why some parts of the world such as Western Europe, South America and New York have suffered so much while places such as California and Thailand have been less impacted. Not good news. I guess it could have mutated either way. More virulent or less. Too bad for us that it was more. I wish the WHO would quite flapping their mouths about a vaccine until it's ready to be shipped. They are not inspiring confidence. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 My county has gained four more confirmed cases in the last month, for a total of 29, of which 26 have recovered, 3 are still reported as active. I've yet to see anyone wearing a mask, main difference is a couple of the restaurants are closed in the nearest town. Everything else as normal. State campgrounds opened last week to limited service. I noticed driving around the private RV parks are open but have more vacancies than usual. Normal daily routine, stores, post office, fuel, etc, not impacted. No one I've talked to in the area I live has to their knowledge been ill, though a local prison in a nearby county had an outbreak, apparently that accounts for most of the county's cases, still only a few dozen and no deaths. With summer upon us, I would expect the usual influx of urban residents to their vacation homes and to the sand surf and camping recreation so we'll see if they bring more infections with them. So far, nothing remarkable. As tourism has long been the main economic engine since the logging industry mostly disappeared a few decades ago, economic pain has been the main fallout, lock down has kept tourists away. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Weird, that's identical to MY county ... Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 My understanding is most of the activity has been at or near the county seat which is the only decent sized city. The rest of the county is pretty sparsely populated per square mile which would explain the low incidence of cases. Also, there's high likelihood more have had it but didn't seek any care or confirmation, typical of rural counties. We see that all over Oregon away from the cities. I'm very impressed with the southwest coast since it has a high level of retirees living there, very few cases in that at-risk age group. Population centers appear to be the magnet, not atypical of infections in general. There's been debate about viral survival during summer conditions and those counties which have a mix of environments will be good test cases for that aspect. If the classic argument holds true, the hot core areas will see no increase to a decline and the cool, wet coastal areas should see higher incidence, especially if people travel into those areas from population centers. Something to watch! I'm not concerned though, usual precautions have served me well through a number of pandemics over the last 8 decades. Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Yeah, I was raised in the rurals near said county seat, then travelled quite a bit for work. Now I'm back in the 'burg itself, but it's a quiet town. After living in Sunnyvale, Los Angeles, and several major areas in SEA (Manila, etc) the town that seemed busy in my youth seems positively mundane. I'm fine with that. I was a bit worried due to the large number of retired folks here but we seem to have been bypassed for the most part so far. Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Slippers Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 We had a birthdays and anniversaries video call with about 30 people in my department on Friday. I love it that when the guy leading the call asked how we're doing with working from home and how we feel about coming back to the office, this one guy gave a very honest answer: he loves not having to get up at 5:30, avoiding traffic, is getting plenty done at home, so he hopes remote work continues to be an option. I'm pretty sure most of us on the call agreed with that. The higher-up gave a pretty predictable response, but the deal is that when we do start going back, we probably won't all go every day. We'll take different shifts, arrive and leave at different times to avoid elevator congestion. They're making changes in the building for social distancing, masks required. My job can totally roll along smoothly from home, so I'm hoping I can keep this going and avoid office time as much as possible. I'll do what I need to do, but I vastly prefer this. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/06122020/images/nchs-mortality-report.gif Link to post Share on other sites
lana-banana Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 "Early data from coronavirus tests of Minnesotans who participated in demonstrations after the death of George Floyd suggest the mass gatherings may not result in a spike in COVID-19 infections...Results from about 40 percent of the coronavirus tests done in St. Paul and Minneapolis this week show 1.4 percent of participants who were tested had contracted COVID-19. Health officials are awaiting the rest of the test results and are encouraging anyone who participated in mass gatherings to get tested — regardless of symptoms. The 1.4 percent positivity rate is lower than the 3.7 positivity rate of the more than 13,000 test results reported Friday. It is lower than the current seven-day average rate of positive tests, which is also 3.7 percent." This makes sense to me. For one thing, protests have been held entirely outdoors; for another thing, all the protests I've attended had a strict masking policy and more hand sanitizer/soap/precautions than any actual business I've been in. It would probably be a very different story had these been held in a building with circulating AC. Other news is not so good: Texas, Arkansas, Arizona, and North and South Carolina have reported an enormous spike in cases and hospitalizations. Arizona reported 45% more cases today than on any other day, and the national 7-day average is now the highest it's been since May 24th. While cases in the Northeast are sharply down and generally down in the Midwest, cases in the South and West are rising fast. Stay home, and if you can't stay home wear a mask, and keep washing your hands! Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I guess it would have been fine to go to the beach after all ..... 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites
BC1980 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 It seems to be close, sustained contact indoors. I'd feel okay at the beach, but I wouldn't get on a plane right now. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 CA governor Newsom issued an order regarding face masks today. It appears people with hearing disabilities and/or those interacting with hearing disabled people may be exempt under certain circumstances.... https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH Document Library/COVID-19/Guidance-for-Face-Coverings_06-18-2020.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts