asked out gym girl on IG she told ex and blocked me

[Azincourt]

30 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

On the first bolded... Sigh.

As to the second bolded, most women aren't going to the gym wanting men that are considerably older than them, interacting with them in ways that are a bit creepy.

 

Young women aren't going anywhere wanting to be approached by men who are much older than them, and look their age.  Remove the 1 billion dollar in the bank and let's see if the orange leader would still have the woman he's with.

[5x5]

34 minutes ago, ZA Dater said:

I can go on about WW2 history but that's hardly going to get miss athletic wanting to go on a date with me or be much of a point of conversation.

Amongst my many interests, since I was a teenager I've always been interested in military history and military aviation history. So can go on about the Second World War as well, yet that never stopped me finding sexual partners or being married twice so far.

Of which I know plenty of men who are professional historians, curators, published authors, and illustrators with personal and professional interest in that conflict. Yet almost all of them have managed to find terrific marital partners while raising families with them. So that is hardly an impediment either.

34 minutes ago, ZA Dater said:

At the end of the day, looks and social skills are what matter most, there is no room for error in either, mess one or the other up and you are done, seemingly.

Of course those things matter, with social skills by a significant margin being the most important one of those two. Of which considering the fact that humans are social animals, social skills understandably matter.

[Azincourt]

17 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

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Amongst my many interests, since I was a teenager I've always been interested in military history and military aviation history. So can go on about the Second World War as well, yet that never stopped me finding sexual partners or being married twice so far.

Why would a woman being interested in military history or military aviation history prevent her from finding partners?

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Of which I know plenty of men who are professional historians, curators, published authors, and illustrators with personal and professional interest in that conflict. Yet almost all of them have managed to find terrific marital partners while raising families with them. So that is hardly an impediment either.

 

There are far more female college students and graduates than there are men going to college and graduating from it. A guy with a college degree is considered a hot commodity by many women, even more so if he doesn't have any college debt.  Having a baby in the states is expensive. Raising a kid even more so.  Houses in LA and NYC, SF, the ones being sold not rent are going for millions, or close to it.

What woman wants to raise a family with her in-laws living with her?

That means a decent number of female college graduates are going to marry a guy merely  because he can afford a house and a family, and eventually a divorce, in many, many cases(70% divorce rate in the Netherlands for a first marriage, 80% for 2nd marriages and 90% for third marriages after 4 to 7 years of marriage).

When my great-grandfather came back from his military service during world war I, most of the men in his village had died overseas, which meant he managed to ahem, marry about 15 women and father more than 40 sons. I'm not particularly impressed by a History teacher getting married and raising a family. Now, if you were to tell me you know of a History teacher married to a 21 year old Cindy Crawford, Claudia Schiffer or Laetitia Casta I'd be awed. Especially, if he didn't inherit 400 millions from his daddy.

 

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Of course those things matter, with social skills by a significant margin being the most important one of those two. Of which considering the fact that humans are social animals, social skills understandably matter.

That depends on the situation.

Say I am a very polished young man with the southern manners my grandparents hammered into me. I'm going to be selected by the woman in question over some rude guy, but if you were to grab Legends of The Fall Brad Pitt with social skills as developed as mine  - I'd be dumped faster than a Victoria Secret's model gets dumped by DiCaprio as soon as she turns 25.

Unless she figures out my family has money.

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[5x5]

7 minutes ago, Azincourt said:

Why would a woman being interested in military history or military aviation history prevent her from finding partners?

I don't know? You ought to ask @ZA Dater who I was responding to, since he seems to believe it impedes him.

Edited March 17, 2020 by 5x5

[Azincourt]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

I don't know? You ought to ask @ZA Dater who I was responding to, since he seems to believe it impedes him.

He's probably busy responding to my previous posts.

[SumGuy]

4 hours ago, Azincourt said:

What woman wants to raise a family with her in-laws living with her?

Wait to you see the cost of day care.  Then that annoying mother in law nearby does not look so bad. 

[ZA Dater]

5 hours ago, 5x5 said:

Amongst my many interests, since I was a teenager I've always been interested in military history and military aviation history. So can go on about the Second World War as well, yet that never stopped me finding sexual partners or being married twice so far.

Of which I know plenty of men who are professional historians, curators, published authors, and illustrators with personal and professional interest in that conflict. Yet almost all of them have managed to find terrific marital partners while raising families with them. So that is hardly an impediment either.

Of course those things matter, with social skills by a significant margin being the most important one of those two. Of which considering the fact that humans are social animals, social skills understandably matter.

Ok I give up, clearly the US population are far better educated than most where I live (which is likely to be true) because of the probably 200 people I have met none could ever speak about this or show any interest in it either, then again I am meeting 23-35yo, perhaps I need to close my eyes and go for the 50+ range.

Even the political lady I met didn't work so the point is clear its just luck and good looks which get you in the door.

[preraph]

I saw someone on TV say Brad Pitt could get any woman he wanted.  Well, maybe for a night.  You'd be curious, you know.  But he's not my type when I was young.  And I have no idea if he has any type of good personality.  Now if he was really witty and charming, then yes, of course.  

[Azincourt]

1 hour ago, SumGuy said:

Wait to you see the cost of day care.  Then that annoying mother in law nearby does not look so bad. 

Not if that annoying mother-in-law is my maternal grandmother. My mom's been putting up with her for 40 years now. She should be awarded with a position in the Church's sainthood

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I saw someone on TV say Brad Pitt could get any woman he wanted.  Well, maybe for a night.  You'd be curious, you know.  But he's not my type when I was young.  And I have no idea if he has any type of good personality.  Now if he was really witty and charming, then yes, of course.  

 

I once saw a guy interview Kendall Jenner about Brad Pitt, and she said something along the lines of, ''the older he gets the more attractive he becomes.''

Yeah, that's Brad Pitt for you,  but would she really date him if he was interested in her? Dunno. I've seen the guys she dates and they're not exactly Gucci models.

What about Daniel Day-Lewis?

I was watching The Last of  The Mohicans and I was wondering to myself if this guy was a hearthrob back in his day.

 

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[2BGoodAgain]

i don't get this post...

1) being polite is just that. it doesn't convey interest.

2) it's usually easier getting some indications from the other that your presence is "welcomed"... if not, then that's exactly what it is.

3) cold asking out a girl only works once in a while, in person... and really, ONCE in a blue moon, but usually not. To do it online, is.. well.. weird.. 

4) you were kinda stalking her feeds, etc... to get a vibe on her relationship status, instead of just asking her about it... it may sound like you were being cautious, but normally, you'd just ask in person... or if she invites chat with you, ease into it....

5) her ex/bf or what he is... has nothing to do with you, so no need to respond, etc... 

6) just b/c a girl is attractive, isn't enough reason for a girl to accept your request for a meeting...  it only says you know nothing about her, except her looks... not exactly a stellar start. Of course, if she found you equally attractive, it might work... but since she's met you at the gym in polite conversation ... and she hasn't warmed up to you,... nothing about you made her warm up to you.. hence... i dunno dude... i'm not exactly sure what you were thinking making such an advance online, with no invitation or hint from her, no social cues to such an invitation, etc...

good luck, dude... 

[basil67]

10 hours ago, ZA Dater said:

Pure physical attraction nothing else involved, he could have said anything to her and she would have gone on a date with him. 

If he was behaving like an idiot, she would not have gone.  And further to dates, she lost interest in the end because he wasn't an academic type.

[basil67]

10 hours ago, ZA Dater said:

Its no really, she either finds you physically attractive or not or she sees some way or other you might be able to benefit her. My guess if the OP has applied charm and spun a few lies he probably would have had better luck but then again he probably wasn't what she was looking for.

Are you OK today ZA?   

[preraph]

3 hours ago, Azincourt said:

Not if that annoying mother-in-law is my maternal grandmother. My mom's been putting up with her for 40 years now. She should be awarded with a position in the Church's sainthood

🤣

 

I once saw a guy interview Kendall Jenner about Brad Pitt, and she said something along the lines of, ''the older he gets the more attracti

What about Daniel Day-Lewis?

yeah Daniel Day-Lewis is closer to my physical type when I was young and dating.

[Azincourt]

30 minutes ago, preraph said:

yeah Daniel Day-Lewis is closer to my physical type when I was young and dating.

I'm watching a few of his movies. I know he was in quite a few romantic movies, but I never hear this guy mentioned when people are talking about hot men. Robert Redford, Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, Clark Gable,  Brad Pitt, Montgomery Clift, Paul Newman.

Only stuff I hear about this guy is how he's the best actor of his generation.  I wish I could be in a movie with him, but I don't have the acting chops, and he's retired anyway. He makes shoes now 🤣

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Pure physical attraction nothing else involved, he could have said anything to her and she would have gone on a date with him. 

 

A date doesn't mean anything.  It's not like a date = // = marriage. It doesn't necessarily lead into anything.

Take a look around you. Do you see Ibiza, Tenerife?

Saint-Tropez, France?

Corfu, Greece?

No, there's millions of people around you and they don't look like they're about to be called to star in a Gone With The Wind remake.

They have girlfriends and wives, children and friends. You don't need to look like Çağatay Ulusoy for women to out with you based on pure physical attraction alone.

If only fashion models and movie stars were considered to be physical attractive all of Mankind would've died off by now.

 

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[Miss Spider]

Wow all those men are from a very different generation. Most people under 30 won’t know most of those names. 

 

[Azincourt]

13 minutes ago, Cookiesandough said:

Wow all those men are from a very different generation. Most people under 30 won’t know most of those names. 

 

 

Would they know about Alain Delon or Leslie Howard? 🤣

My family is deeply in love with the moving-pictures industry, and my grandparents worked in the Industry, so I grew up watching hundreds of movies from the silent movie era up to the talkies, and then to what we have these days making over a billion dollars with guys wearing spandex suits and fighting a green screen 🤣

[basil67]

6 hours ago, ZA Dater said:

Ok I give up, clearly the US population are far better educated than most where I live (which is likely to be true) because of the probably 200 people I have met none could ever speak about this or show any interest in it either, then again I am meeting 23-35yo, perhaps I need to close my eyes and go for the 50+ range.

My cousin loves military history too and has a lovely wife.  But he's not silly enough to think that his lovely wife has any interest in it.    Likewise, I am not interested in hubby's soccer and he's not interested in my domestic arts or love of history.   We need to connect on more levels than our personal interests.

[jspice]

6 hours ago, ZA Dater said:

Ok I give up, clearly the US population are far better educated than most where I live (which is likely to be true) because of the probably 200 people I have met none could ever speak about this or show any interest in it either, then again I am meeting 23-35yo, perhaps I need to close my eyes and go for the 50+ range.

Even the political lady I met didn't work so the point is clear its just luck and good looks which get you in the door.

What? Because women over 50 are going to be desperate enough to date you? 
like the fat women and the single mums. I’m here to tell you they’re not. 
 If you can’t find a university-educated woman anywhere that’s on you. 
 

Look at yourself. Stop blaming women. 
And this thread isn’t about you. 

[simpycurious]

3 hours ago, Cookiesandough said:

Wow all those men are from a very different generation. Most people under 30 won’t know most of those names. 

 

LOL....I do recognize one word (place) in her post.  Corfu....it is stunning and a must see

[Interstellar]

3 hours ago, Azincourt said:

 

Would they know about Alain Delon or Leslie Howard? 🤣

My family is deeply in love with the moving-pictures industry, and my grandparents worked in the Industry, so I grew up watching hundreds of movies from the silent movie era up to the talkies, and then to what we have these days making over a billion dollars with guys wearing spandex suits and fighting a green screen 🤣

Le Samourai is one of my favorite gangster films. Alain Delon is a good looking guy when he was younger. 

[ZA Dater]

7 hours ago, basil67 said:

Are you OK today ZA?   

I am quite fine thanks. I will admit I feel the OP's irritation as I myself have been on the receiving end of exactly the same thing and some variations of it countless times. What gets me about his is he was actually doing what he thought was ok, honestly at face value what is wrong with it? She could have responded politely but instead chose not to. Everyone here is saying he should not have done that but by the same token the advice given is "if you don't try you don't know" so which is it?

People get to choose how they respond and she responded poorly in my opinion but not unsurprisingly either based on my own experiences. Again I cannot fathom why people simply cannot SOMETIMES just give the benefit of the doubt, I am sure we all have at some point but even if you don't then at least be pleasant.

Bigger question, will he ever approach anyone again, his confidence has been eroded all because some nameless person in a gym could not be polite.

[Azincourt]

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

I am quite fine thanks. I will admit I feel the OP's irritation as I myself have been on the receiving end of exactly the same thing and some variations of it countless times.

 

OP wasn't rudely rejected.

You are rudely rejected when someone rejecting you either laughs at you or verbally berates and that never happens. Never experienced. Never seen it happen. Not even when a guy who is clearly less attractive than the woman is interested in, rejects him. It can happen. There are men who've experienced but it has nothing to do with their physical apperance, but everything to do with how he approached her.

The woman can also be having an awful day and lack the patience to deal with men. A  few months ago I was visiting a friend at the hospital. I'm walking up to building's exit when this attractive early 20s woman happens to make eye-contact with me and boy, does she look pissed off.  Rolled her eyes and all 🤣

Did my self-esteem take a soaring sink?

Did I swear right there I would never ever be interested in a woman again someone who was clearly having a bad day thought I was checking her out and she didn't like it?

Narrator: No, he didn't.

A woman doesn't need to sit down with a guy and write down a detailed report on why she's not interested in him. She's just not interested and that should be enough.

The reason why many women are evasive in the way they reject a man, keeping the conversation short, not smiling, being clearly physically uncomfortable is because, when you're half a man's size and weight - you worry about your personal safety.

There are women who get beaten up by dudes who can't take a no.

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 

What gets me about his is he was actually doing what he thought was ok, honestly at face value what is wrong with it?

 

You're not following it.

One thing is when a guy goes up to a woman, starts a conversation, realizes she is not interested in him, stops it and moves on with his life.

He should have the life-experience to figure out when a woman is interested or not, as women are very obvious when they're interested in a guy(they approach you, hit on you, or they check you out and let themselves be caught checking you out etc)

But what this guy did was to continue going up to her to strike a conversation she had no interest in having. If a woman keeps her answers short, doesn't ask him any questions, doesn't go out of her way to talk to him - she's not interested and by keeping doing what he did?

He's making her feel uncomfortable and unsafe.

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 

 

She could have responded politely but instead chose not to. Everyone here is saying he should not have done that but by the same token the advice given is "if you don't try you don't know" so which is it?

Dude. This woman has been rejecting men since she was a teenager.

Think about it. How would you feel if all of your life Jehovah's witnesses have been knocking on your door uninvited to try to have you join their cult?

Don't you think it gets a little tiring to have to make it obviously clear for the men who have no social skills and no social awareness that she's not interested?

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

People get to choose how they respond and she responded poorly in my opinion

In your opinion. Not in her opinion, which is what matters.

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 

but not unsurprisingly either based on my own experiences. Again I cannot fathom why people simply cannot SOMETIMES just give the benefit of the doubt, I am sure we all have at some point but even if you don't then at least be pleasant.

 

What do you mean by ''the benefit of the doubt'' ?

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 If you can’t find a university-educated woman anywhere that’s on you. 

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The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

Every year, more women than men become college-educated. The disparity is already prevalent across North America and Europe, and the trend is beginning to spread across the world more widely. At the University of Texas at Austin where I teach, the sex ratio is 54 percent women to 46 percent men. This imbalance may not seem large at first blush. But when you do the math it translates into a hefty 17 percent more women than men in the local mating pool. Speculations about reasons range widely. They include the gradual removal of gender discrimination barriers and women’s higher levels of conscientiousness (relative to men’s) that translate into better grades and superior college app qualifications. Whatever the causes turn out to be, the disparity is creating a dramatic and unintended mating crisis among educated women.

 

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We must look deeply into our mating psychology to understand the far-reaching consequences of the sex ratio imbalance. Women and men both have evolved multiple mating strategies; some of each gender pursue casual hook-ups, some committed partnerships. Some alternate at different times of their lives, and some do both simultaneously. And although a few social scientists deny the data, research overwhelmingly shows that men harbor, on average, a greater desire for sexual partner variety.

In this economy it's pretty easy for a college educated man to find a wife.

[ZA Dater]

49 minutes ago, Azincourt said:

There are women who get beaten up by dudes who can't take a no.

You're not following it.

One thing is when a guy goes up to a woman, starts a conversation, realizes she is not interested in him, stops it and moves on with his life.

He should have the life-experience to figure out when a woman is interested or not, as women are very obvious when they're interested in a guy(they approach you, hit on you, or they check you out and let themselves be caught checking you out etc)

But what this guy did was to continue going up to her to strike a conversation she had no interest in having. If a woman keeps her answers short, doesn't ask him any questions, doesn't go out of her way to talk to him - she's not interested and by keeping doing what he did?

He's making her feel uncomfortable and unsafe.

What do you mean by ''the benefit of the doubt'' ?

In this economy it's pretty easy for a college educated man to find a wife.

I strongly disagree on the two highlighted portions. I am 36 and the only thing that is obvious to me is that none are interested then again I cant be bothered to study their every movement and every expression never mind eye contact which in itself is irrelevant and meaningless. Point is there is nothing wrong with his judgement, quite clearly she didn't actually convey a lack of interest in a clear way to him, hence he continued. This has nothing to with life experience at all, its got to do with poor communication, something ladies thrive at in the dating environment, probably because being evasive means they don't feel so bad about rejecting a guy.

The number of times I have seen ladies approach guys....less than 5 and in all those instances it was looks and nothing else which mattered or perhaps perceived status so that argument doesn't wash with me either.

Clearly he checked her out, she didn't rebuff that, no because it made her feel good that some guy was checking her out so it was a case of enjoy the attention and give nothing back. I simply commend him for trying, I learnt long ago its a complete waste of time but I commend anyone who puts themselves in that position of trying but to those that do need to realise when they do, they hand all the power to the lady.

Ultimately he didn't match up to what she finds attractive so it was easier to ignore him than simply be a nice person and actually chat to him, sorry but this guy cannot be painted as the "wrong" in my view. I don't bother greeting ladies precisely because of people like this, why bother, when all you get is the cold shoulder, I will 'check them out' much the same way I check out the item on a shelf I cannot afford.

Your last comment really tells it how it is, wish more people would simply acknowledge as they as being the truth, looks and money are the best currency in dating.

[Azincourt]

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

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I strongly disagree on the two highlighted portions. I am 36 and the only thing that is obvious to me is that none are interested then again I cant be bothered to study their every movement and every expression never mind eye contact which in itself is irrelevant and meaningless. Point is there is nothing wrong with his judgement, quite clearly she didn't actually convey a lack of interest in a clear way to him, hence he continued. This has nothing to with life experience at all, its got to do with poor communication, something ladies thrive at in the dating environment, probably because being evasive means they don't feel so bad about rejecting a guy.

 

If you are in your 30s and you haven't ever had a girlfriend, it's either because you don't know how to read the social clues women send a man's way when she's interested, either because you grew up in social isolation and never got to learn, or you suffer from a natural inability to read body language/micro facial  expressions or because you are only interested in women who are out of your league, while ignoring the physical attention of women who are your looks-match.

I've already told you about this 10 times in a row.

Women have to play it safe because there are millions of creeps out there who can't take a no as an answer, they either keep harassing her, making her feel uncomfortable, or they escalate it into physical violence.  Many men can't deal with rejection because they are mentally ill, feel entitled to a woman's attention and sex, and it's not like guys are walking around with a tattoo on their foreheads, each symbol telling women which guy is safe and which guy is going to follow them home and murder them because he didn't like being sexually rejected.

It's not complicated to understand this.

When a woman is interested in a man she will have an active role in the conversation. She will not give out short replies. She will come up with subjects to talk about. She will initiate the conversation. She will keep it going. She will be VISIBLY happy to see him and to talk to him. Closed body language. Lack of positive facial expressions.

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 

The number of times I have seen ladies approach guys....less than 5 and in all those instances it was looks and nothing else which mattered or perhaps perceived status so that argument doesn't wash with me either.

 

How many times have you been to places where women converge to hang out with their friends and to meet men?  Does a woman at the gym dress like she's going out at 9PM to cocktails with her friends? While she's at the gym?

How many times have you gone to nightclubs, bars, music festivals? Do you have hobbies? Yoga? Salsa dancing? hiking groups? You'll see women check out guys there, approach them, ask them out.

I have many friends who are average-looking and they all get approached by women. It's not about how you look, dude. It's about the kind of energy you put out.  Put out positive energy and women will notice you. Be happy with yourself. Work on that self-esteem that is so low I could hop on it and use it to visit the center of the earth.

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

Clearly he checked her out, she didn't rebuff that, no because it made her feel good that

 

 

What? You wanted her to tell him, ''please mister could you stop checking my rear-end? It's making me uncomfortable.''

No, man. It didn't make her feel good. 1 mother, 5 sisters, lots of aunts, about 20 female cousins.

They've been the target of sexual harrasment from men since they were young teens. It doesn't bloody matter if the guy checking her out is Brad Pitt or The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Women get exhausted of getting cat-called, checked out, and made to feel like a sex object for the guy's pleasure.

The reason why she didn't say anything is because she is so accostumed to guys being pigs that telling one dude to stop what he was doing would not end fixing it. She's always afraid he might be mentally ill and physically assault her.

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 

 

some guy was checking her out so it was a case of enjoy the attention and give nothing back

 

I'm sorry, I'm confused here.

Are you a Muslim man? A Man from India?  Africa? You believe a man is entitled to attention because he gave her something that she didn't even want in the first place?

What exactly was she supposed to do here? Because the guy was attracted to him, she was supposed to give him her cell number?

So say, I head out to the nightclub, this woman smiles at me - does that mean that I'm owed sex?

Because I'm like so many men who ignore women they aren't attracted to, and only care about women who are more attractive than me, and if she treats me like a human being it must be because she wants the D?

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 

 

. I simply commend him for trying, I learnt long ago its a complete waste of time but I commend anyone who puts themselves in that position of trying but to those that do need to realise when they do, they hand all the power to the lady.

 

Jesus Chirst, man. I've met deformed men who had more of a positive attitude than you. Women aren't falling on your lap, that means no woman in the Universe(oops, I mean, no woman who looks like a super model ) could ever be attracted to you, so the best course of action is to give up on trying to get a girlfriend, and instead spend the rest of your life complaining about how ''shallow women are because a man must look like a Disney Prince to get anywhere with them''.

Is that it? Is that what you want?

Women don't have all of the power in the dating world. They spend tens of thousands on their bodies, make-up, clothes, ornaments, hair, teeth, and they stil get rejected by men plenty of time. They still get pumped and dumped. They still get ghosted.  Life for women, even for beautiful women isn't the pink-themed fairytale that you're creating inside your mind.

 

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

Ultimately he didn't match up to what she finds attractive so it was easier to ignore him than simply be a nice person and actually chat to him

 

Dude. Dude. Dude.

This woman was perfectly aware this guy wasn't going up to her everyday to chat her up because he thought she'd make a great add to his book-club group. He approached her because he wanted to smash. She knows that. She's trying to keep herself safe. What do you want her to do ? Stop her life and talk to every guy who wants to talk to her?

She's there to workout, not to have a nice chat with the dude who is only talking to her because he wants to sleep with her. Why doesn't he go to the nice person over there who happens to be 80 years old and wears dentures?

 

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

 

 

, sorry but this guy cannot be painted as the "wrong" in my view. I don't bother greeting ladies precisely because of people like this, why bother, when all you get is the cold shoulder, I will 'check them out' much the same way I check out the item on a shelf I cannot afford.

 

Are you seriously putting women and grocery items in the same category? You can't afford? Most women aren't gold-diggers, bro.

1 hour ago, ZA Dater said:

Your last comment really tells it how it is, wish more people would simply acknowledge as they as being the truth, looks and money are the best currency in dating.

Ok, bro. I'll aknoweldge it so you don't spend the next 50 years of your life complaining about women.

Attractive women want a guy who is as physically attractive as they are, or more.

Attractive women want a guy who might not be as attractive as her, but isn't a 5'2'' bald, overweight man with no social skills and a patient for autism or aspies to hit on them when they're trying to go about their day in peace.

They're more than happy to date a guy who isn't physically attractive but is, funny, or smart, or charming, or charismatic, cultured, well-travelled,  or he's a happy-go-getter- or he's intelligent, or he's hard-working, or he's rich, and on and on.

I'm going to call my mother and my sisters and cousins to tell them that from now I'm going to be expecting them to talk to every Joe and Dick who wants to sleep with them, give me a second 👌

[elaine567]

On 3/17/2020 at 6:00 AM, ZA Dater said:

The bottom line to this is that NO cold approach will ever work at ALL EVER. That would seem to be the consensus.

This wasn't really a cold approach, this had been going on for months.
The problem being that the OP failed to notice she wasn't interested.
The conversations were short and polite
She wasn't sharing her life or bantering or thinking up funny anecdotes or trying to engage with him whenever she saw him in the gym.
She put up the boyfriend wall and then acted accordingly.
It doesn't need a degree in body language to work out she was not even interested in having him as a friend, as had that been the case then the conversations would have flowed.
By her reaction, "she told me "that was weird ASF"" I guess she had been annoyed and creeped out by him, and that the more personal contact he instigated latterly  was just too much for her, so with distance and the added security of her bf,  politeness went out the window and she blocked the OP.
My guess due to the reaction she gave,  the earlier gym times were a deliberate attempt to avoid him, as that is what I might have done too if faced with the same situation.

Here we have a man who saw a hot woman at the gym. He made approaches that were essentially rebuffed, but he still thought he was in with a chance.
This is why women learn to be closed off and to give so little away. Why they do not make friends out of random guys who want to date them.
The least sign of attention and some guys think they have got a green light...
Once some guys think they are onto a winner, they will ignore the woman's feelings, she in his mind will "come round" if he is persistent enough.
Some men WILL bully women into relationships. 
Most women do not want to get into messy situations, they do not want to be cornered into accepting guys they don't want, so they shut down everything down early doors.

Edited March 18, 2020 by elaine567