Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Nah, OP approached the young woman at the gym because he merely wanted to have a nice conversation with her. If she was a 80 year old woman with no teeth, I'm sure he would have gone up to her day after day, invading her personal space to hit on her - oops, I mean to be nice to her because he's a proper gentleman. Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 "Some men WILL bully women into relationships" I have never seen that nor known a woman that would allow it. Most women that I know are much more self confident than that. The woman just is NOT interested in the OP. So, he needs to LEAVE her alone. It's really not that complicated Link to post Share on other sites
ZA Dater Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Azincourt said: Nah, OP approached the young woman at the gym because he merely wanted to have a nice conversation with her. If she was a 80 year old woman with no teeth, I'm sure he would have gone up to her day after day, invading her personal space to hit on her - oops, I mean to be nice to her because he's a proper gentleman. Sure I agree after the 5th attempt he should have given up BUT again we don't know how much dating success he has had. Did he see this as a good opportunity. Its relevant because if you for example had chocolate cake you perhaps will not be so keen to have more but offer a chocolate cake to someone who only gets bread and see what will happen. That's the thing guys like he OP are very short of the apparently nice things dating can bring to ones life so they are so desperate to find them that they do things like this. Again how much of the action is logical and how much is the result of circumstance. FYI I believe he should have been more friendly and not invaded her social media. Circumstances don't always justify an action but there is a point where you either take the risk or not, he took it failed and the tried again, nothing inherently wrong except he should have given up at that point. Again FYI I wouldn't bother asking or speaking to anyone attractive at a gym because the chances they are single is pretty much zero. Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, ZA Dater said: FYI I believe he should have been more friendly Given her brief responses to his previous friendliness, he should have backed off rather than been more friendly. And he would do well realising that while it's not impossible to find an interested woman who is significantly younger than him, that there is an inherent ick factor for many young women when an old guy hits on them. If a man isn't going to cope well with a gruff rejection, it's wise to wait for a green light before taking it any further. Edited March 18, 2020 by basil67 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, basil67 said: Given her brief responses to his previous friendliness, he should have backed off rather than been more friendly. And he would do well realising that while it's not impossible to find an interested woman who is significantly younger than him, that there is an inherent ick factor for many young women when an old guy hits on them. If a man isn't going to cope well with a gruff rejection, it's wise to wait for a green light before taking it any further. I'm in my 30s and my girlfriends are usually in their early 20s to mid 20s. Dated a 19 year old last year. But I don't have a beer gut(180 lbs at 10% body fat, 190-200lbs 7% when I bother going to the gym for that summer body) I have a full head of thick hair, , and I still get calls to do work for the forever 21 brand. Went to the plastic surgery doctor the other day to see if there was any work that needed to be done, and the guy asked me why would a 18 year old need plastic surgery. 🤣 I've taken over what, 10,000 pictures during my career, and over 30,000 selfies for myself over the past 10+ years, and I really can't tell much of a difference from the times I was 18 and frow now that I'm in my 30s. Well, other than the wide shoulders, the square jawline that got more square and the well-developed biceps. But that's probably from working construction during my mid 20s as a side job. Of course many young women are weirded out when they discover how old I really am, but since I'm only interested in short-term relationships it doesn't bother me when I get dumped. On the other hand I also get dumped by women in their 30s and 40s when they figure out I have no interest in marriage or in having kids. 🤣 Either age group I date I'm considered to be immature by both, so why not have fun. You can be young for a very long time when you take care of yourself and when you forego any responsabilities(marriage/co-habitating girlfriend/children). Edited March 18, 2020 by Azincourt Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 @Azincourt as long as the women you date know upfront that you're only up for fun and sex, then fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, basil67 said: @Azincourt as long as the women you date know upfront that you're only up for fun and sex, then fair enough. If I'm upfront about it I won't get anywhere with them lol. Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Azincourt said: If I'm upfront about it I won't get anywhere with them lol. So the only way you can hang out with a woman is to dupe them into it. Nice 🤮 Edited March 18, 2020 by basil67 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, basil67 said: So the only way you can hang out with a woman is to dupe them into it. Nice 🤮 Nah, the ones who are looking just for a fun time to be had don't mind it, because they're also looking for the same, it's just that there's a lot of guys who do the same, that is, they're not upfront with what they want and don't want, and the women don't want to waste their time on a guy who isn't interested in being a part of their lives, as there are many more women who are looking for a serious relationship than there are women who are looking for an one-night stand or a FWB. Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Ah, so being upfront does get you somewhere Link to post Share on other sites
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, basil67 said: Ah, so being upfront does get you somewhere It does, but not being entirely honest gets me further ahead 😝 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SumGuy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Azincourt said: It does, but not being entirely honest gets me further ahead 😝 Sounds like your not being "entirely honest" is code for being misleading. You are misleading them to believe that you are interested in something more than some causal sex. You know what people call the omission of material facts meant to mislead? It's called a lie. It also sounds like it fits this pattern: A knowing misrepresentation of a material fact meant to deceive, that the deceived would reasonably rely on to their detriment, and they so relied. That is basically fraud. This is not some shading of ones profile or putting ones best foot forward, this is deliberately hiding of ones intentions w.r.t. relationships, and a often a critical deal breaker piece of information at that. Edited March 19, 2020 by SumGuy Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 7:08 PM, Azincourt said: It does, but not being entirely honest gets me further ahead 😝 Azin, you seem to have a variety of VERY different approaches where dating women is concerned. Link to post Share on other sites
Azincourt Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 7 hours ago, simpycurious said: Azin, you seem to have a variety of VERY different approaches where dating women is concerned. Yes, because in order to maximize my chances of getting laid, it's either putting on different personas with different women, or I'm going home along to watch the playboy channel all night long 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites
SummerDreams Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Azincourt said: Yes, because in order to maximize my chances of getting laid, it's either putting on different personas with different women, or I'm going home along to watch the playboy channel all night long 🤣 Do you plan to get married one day? Link to post Share on other sites
Fletch Lives Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Never tell a woman you like her right away. You should have asked her out in person. Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Azincourt said: Yes, because in order to maximize my chances of getting laid, it's either putting on different personas with different women, or I'm going home along to watch the playboy channel all night long 🤣 Not sure how having differing "personas" is effective but whatever. The women I know are pretty bright and definitely hot and I am not sure the switching of personas would work with them but I guess you never know. Link to post Share on other sites
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