Dating and Coronavirus

[Azincourt]

50 minutes ago, Hopeful30 said:

Let's do the math. According to current sources, 8270 deaths worldwide have occurred due to coronavirus. This is 0.000001 % of the world population (which currently stands at 7.53 billion). The common flu kills more people per year at 650,000 annually, which increases this percentage to 0.00009%. Food poisoning affects 48 million people annually (0.006%) while coronavirus has only infected an estimated 205 K worldwide (0.00003%).

My question is, what is the media trying to hide by causing this worldwide panic? And why are people so uneducated? Why does the government want people to isolate? 

Let's trust the opinions of a random poster over what thousands of doctors who spent their lives working in this area have to say.

Give me a minute while I work on laying down the red carpet for our reptile-Alien overlords from Sirius because that's obvious why the government wants people to isolate themselves.

[lurker74]

1 hour ago, Hopeful30 said:

Let's do the math. According to current sources, 8270 deaths worldwide have occurred due to coronavirus. This is 0.000001 % of the world population (which currently stands at 7.53 billion). The common flu kills more people per year at 650,000 annually, which increases this percentage to 0.00009%. Food poisoning affects 48 million people annually (0.006%) while coronavirus has only infected an estimated 205 K worldwide (0.00003%).

My question is, what is the media trying to hide by causing this worldwide panic? And why are people so uneducated? Why does the government want people to isolate? 

This is why the internet is bad. Because people hiding behind keyboards not only think they're experts, but they get some sick value in trying to get other people to believe it. There is so much wrong with your post it's hard to know where to start. And I'm not lowering myself down to your level to even try to correct you. But for other, rational and moral people, just read the Imperial College report in the UK. The UK was pursuing herd immunity with limited isolation and social distancing. The science behind that report indicated that continuing to pursue that would lead to around 550,000 deaths in the UK and around 2.2 million deaths in the US. 

So please, ignore the willfully ignorant conspiracy theorists and protect you and your family the only way possible. Limit your exposure.

 

(For those that want access to science, here's a decent summary of the report: https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/03/17/1584439125000/That-Imperial-coronavirus-report--in-detail-/)

[Hopeful30]

19 minutes ago, Azincourt said:

Let's trust the opinions of a random poster over what thousands of doctors who spent their lives working in this area have to say.

Give me a minute while I work on laying down the red carpet for our reptile-Alien overlords from Sirius because that's obvious why the government wants people to isolate themselves.

This post is a perfect example of my point. Data is ignored.

Edited March 18, 2020 by Hopeful30

[Hopeful30]

36 minutes ago, lurker74 said:

 The science behind that report indicated that continuing to pursue that would lead to around 550,000 deaths in the UK and around 2.2 million deaths in the US. 

That's still under 0.00004% of the world population 😂

[nospam99]

azincourt said ''thousands of doctors who spent their lives working in this area''

None of whom have spent more than months, at best, working on THIS virus. All of whom had to say the words their employers required of them in order to keep their jobs. (Not a 'doctor', but been there, done that, watched the people who didn't lie for the employer lose their jobs.) If you want to contradict 'the story', good luck finding a platform where you can be heard.

All I am is an 'educated' citizen (apparently better educated that anyone making public statements) who remembers what I learned about biology and the scientific method in junior high school and had to 'review' in high school, college, and job training. To be fair, having seen my kids get similar education decades later, the quality of what they were exposed to is the information equivalent of fast food.

Since I've been there and done that, what I have seen EVERY TIME is 'the company configuring the message' to control the reaction from 'the customers'. In this case the company is the government and the customers are the citizens. The desired reaction is no panic.

That said, I AGREE that social isolation is about the best action that the industrialized world can take. I HAVE SEVERE DOUBTS about how long the isolation 'should' continue to stop the spread of this particular virus. I SUSPECT it will be a couple of months, rather than a couple of weeks, before this settles down. I SUGGEST that if the US (or any countyr) can get to the point where we can identify carriers, that we can limit isolation to those carriers.

[elaine567]

I have a feeling the "panic" is about the fact that this highly contagious and deadly virus could mutate into one that attacks younger people and children. 
Even as it is, 19% of the people who died in China were younger than 60.
 

[Azincourt]

1 hour ago, lurker74 said:

This is why the internet is bad. Because people hiding behind keyboards not only think they're experts, but they get some sick value in trying to get other people to believe it. There is so much wrong with your post it's hard to know where to start. And I'm not lowering myself down to your level to even try to correct you. But for other, rational and moral people, just read the Imperial College report in the UK. The UK was pursuing herd immunity with limited isolation and social distancing. The science behind that report indicated that continuing to pursue that would lead to around 550,000 deaths in the UK and around 2.2 million deaths in the US. 

So please, ignore the willfully ignorant conspiracy theorists and protect you and your family the only way possible. Limit your exposure.

 

(For those that want access to science, here's a decent summary of the report: https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/03/17/1584439125000/That-Imperial-coronavirus-report--in-detail-/)

 

The corona virus is a libs conspiracy to these people 🤣

 

don't waste your time trying to make them aware of what's going on

Edited March 18, 2020 by Azincourt

[Hopeful30]

56 minutes ago, elaine567 said:

I have a feeling the "panic" is about the fact that this highly contagious and deadly virus could mutate into one that attacks younger people and children. 
Even as it is, 19% of the people who died in China were younger than 60.
 

This virus has been around since 2012. The earliest infection was a man in Jordan in November 2012. If it was genuinely highly contagious, I don't think it would take 8 years to become problematic.

I'm not denying that this virus exists or can be deadly. I'm saying the panic is a mass social experiment. It's so obvious, and people resisting my comments just demonstrates how effective it is. 

Edited March 18, 2020 by Hopeful30

[elaine567]

6 minutes ago, Hopeful30 said:

This virus has been around since 2012. The earliest infection was a man in Jordan in November 2012. If it was genuinely highly contagious, I don't think it would take 8 years to become problematic.

Evidence?

[Hopeful30]

3 minutes ago, elaine567 said:

Evidence?

World Health Organisation Records. See this link.

Edited March 18, 2020 by Hopeful30

[Hopeful30]

3 minutes ago, elaine567 said:

Evidence?

I pasted the link in a response but it's waiting to be approved by moderators. Probably won't be because it's not dating related. I'll send a private message with the World Health Organization Records with this information.

[elaine567]

Thanks for the PM, but that was MERS another "novel coronavirus", not the same coronavirus that is rampaging around the world today.
Middle East respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus (MERS-CoV).

This 2019 virus is called SARS-CoV-2 and causes the disease COVID-19.

[SumGuy]

51 minutes ago, Hopeful30 said:

This virus has been around since 2012. The earliest infection was a man in Jordan in November 2012. If it was genuinely highly contagious, I don't think it would take 8 years to become problematic.

I'm not denying that this virus exists or can be deadly. I'm saying the panic is a mass social experiment. It's so obvious, and people resisting my comments just demonstrates how effective it is. 

Coronavirus is a category of viruses, not just one virus.  Just like influenza.    The one that is racing around the world is novel in its strain/sequence.  Just like the influenza of 1918 is a different strain than the flu you last got.  

So sure the 2012 virus was not so bad or contagious, but this ain't that one.  And 7 years is like eons for a virus, so many, many, many, many....generations and chances to mutate.

You can look it up, the reproductive order observed is from 2-3, much higher than than 1 associated with most seasonal flus.

Of course this is all pointless since even if it has been around since 2012, maybe we got lucky, what is undisputed this virus is spreading rapidly and far deadlier than normal flu.

 

Note influenza and coronavirus are two different types of viruses.

Edited March 18, 2020 by SumGuy

[simpycurious]

1 hour ago, elaine567 said:

I have a feeling the "panic" is about the fact that this highly contagious and deadly virus could mutate into one that attacks younger people and children. 
Even as it is, 19% of the people who died in China were younger than 60.
 

I caught the tale end of the news that said something along the lines that younger people could have issues from it as well.  I didn't catch all the

details but needless to say that was not good news.  

[elaine567]

Reports from Italy, France and Belgium are reporting severe disease in younger and very healthy patients.

[simpycurious]

11 minutes ago, elaine567 said:

Reports from Italy, France and Belgium are reporting severe disease in younger and very healthy patients.

Like I said, I did not hear all the details other than younger people were getting sick which was not what I understood prior.

Seems like there is so much NEW news daily.  I noticed that there is a COVID chat based information area here now.  Has it

helped anyone protocol or news wise?

[Gr8fuln2020]

2 hours ago, simpycurious said:

I caught the tale end of the news that said something along the lines that younger people could have issues from it as well.  I didn't catch all the

details but needless to say that was not good news.  

I have no idea where people are getting this idea that younger people are not getting sick.

2 hours ago, simpycurious said:

Like I said, I did not hear all the details other than younger people were getting sick which was not what I understood prior.

Seems like there is so much NEW news daily.  I noticed that there is a COVID chat based information area here now.  Has it

helped anyone protocol or news wise?

Honestly, I would not use a dating forum as definitive source for this. No offense. Our own government officials have been less than helpful, why get the information from a dating site?

Edited March 18, 2020 by Gr8fuln2020

[simpycurious]

21 minutes ago, Gr8fuln2020 said:

I have no idea where people are getting this idea that younger people are not getting sick.

Honestly, I would not use a dating forum as definitive source for this. No offense. Our own government officials have been less than helpful, why get the information from a dating site?

Well, I was just talking about how things are being handled in different areas of the country and world.  Although the Shack is awesome, I wouldn't rely on it SOLELY for Corona

related info.  Now as far as dating advice, that is a different story entirely.😂😂

[chillii]

lf l was single and met somebody special right now what would b the problem you bet l'd be seeing her, well, as long as your both looking after yourselves and she's not around lots of other people

Twin hibernation haha, midnight walks on empty beaches , lots of phone call fun , ahhh, the imagination could go wild haha.

Edited March 18, 2020 by chillii

[Erik30]

13 minutes ago, chillii said:

lf l was single and met somebody special right now what would b the problem you bet l'd be seeing her, well, as long as your both looking after yourselves and she's not around lots of other people

Twin hibernation haha, midnight walks on empty beaches , lots of phone call fun , ahhh, the imagination could go wild haha.

Problem is you might be fine, but you could possibly infect your parents or other people you care about... 

[Azincourt]

29 minutes ago, chillii said:

lf l was single and met somebody special right now what would b the problem you bet l'd be seeing her, well, as long as your both looking after yourselves and she's not around lots of other people

Twin hibernation haha, midnight walks on empty beaches , lots of phone call fun , ahhh, the imagination could go wild haha.

The problem would be that on your way to hole up with your honey bear, you might come across those people who infect you, or people you'll infect. Those people have boomer parents. Those boomer parents have world war II parents, and they're not exactly as healthy as a 21 year old Manchester United player now are they?

And even several Premiere League teams are in quarentine..

Edited March 18, 2020 by Azincourt

[justwhoiam]

On 3/1/2020 at 2:55 PM, Fletch Lives said:

Are you open to kissing new people?

Why or why not?

The fact is that you don't get Covid 19 just through kissing. Prevention measures are: remain at a fair distance from everyone (5 ft, 6 ft even better), do not touch and you shouldn't be too close for more than 15 minutes. Now, what kind of date would that be?? Also, if places go on lockdown, like in my country, you're allowed to go out only for very serious reasons, and seeing people is not among them (unless you can prove it's an old person who needs you). In fact, they humorously said that infidelity rates dropped drastically 😂

[Miss Spider]

Omgosh so many people buying guns (for the first time) so they can shoot people who rob them of food because they think there will be a shortage due to hoarding lol... 

 

This is so ridiculous xD 

[simpycurious]

6 minutes ago, Cookiesandough said:

Omgosh so many people buying guns (for the first time) so they can shoot people who rob them of food because they think there will be a shortage due to hoarding lol... 

 

This is so ridiculous xD 

It's much more than ridiculous but you are a lady so I will refrain from using a more appropriate word.

 

[chillii]

3 hours ago, Erik30 said:

Problem is you might be fine, but you could possibly infect your parents or other people you care about... 

You all missed the part of as long as your both looking after yourselves ahh, l'm 50s, not 16 we'd know what our situation is obviously it'd all depend, few phone calls would soon do tell.lf she worked in a supermarket or had 28 kids ahhh,  l'd pass haha, but eh maybe she works at home has no kids hell maybe she's a hermit who knows and on and on it could all go and yada yada yada

Edited March 19, 2020 by chillii