Men should escalate with women as fast as possible

[SumGuy]

21 hours ago, carhill said:

Same pond 50+ years. CA.  Success was speed and assertiveness. And money. YMMV! 

My experience does indeed vary, at least with northern CA when lived there in 80s-90s.   

I agree that the women you describe did exist when I was there, plenty of them, just plenty of others who could care less about money and who wouldn't in a month be living with another guy, they were in a different cultural/world view pond as it were, instead of geographical location.

[carhill]

I started young, in private school with the wealthy kids in the 60's. It grew from there. I'm sharing what actually happened and, over time, how I learned to respond to reality. I don't know where you get the idea that my reality is everyone's reality, this is a discussion forum, we each share our own experiences. None are 'better' than others, right? That was a rich kid thing, thinking they were 'better', some never grew out of that, I still run into them today.

[SumGuy]

4 minutes ago, carhill said:

I started young, in private school with the wealthy kids in the 60's. It grew from there. I'm sharing what actually happened and, over time, how I learned to respond to reality. I don't know where you get the idea that my reality is everyone's reality, this is a discussion forum, we each share our own experiences. None are 'better' than others, right? That was a rich kid thing, thinking they were 'better', some never grew out of that, I still run into them today.

Sorry if misinterpreted, thought you were saying that these women were the reality of women (as in all) in CA as that speed, assertiveness and money are the keys to success with all women.   

I'm from far down the economic ladder as a kid, so my day-to-day then was very different than private school, etc.  

Indeed none are better than others, if one is finding the partners one is attracted to that is success in my book.  

[alphamale]

17 minutes ago, carhill said:

I started young, in private school with the wealthy kids...

me too

[carhill]

I knew something was off with me when I was asked to drive home rich kid dates who lived on the poor side of town, comparatively, where I lived. It was then that I first realized how social dynamics really worked. I was a trusted nigger, to use the language of the times; thank goodness language has changed. I never considered another man's date to be fair game, either, another ancient and outdated relic of chivalry. That BS was cause for much mating failure in years to come in that demographic. Later, I'd get one clue from the census, 52/48 men/women in my age group. Simple supply and demand 👍

[manfrombelow2]

Exactly. Being decisive is a key masculine quality that women want, and love, in a man.

[manfrombelow2]

On 3/2/2020 at 12:48 PM, barbossa said:

And some ladies here advise "you have to get to know a girl" but really you think any girl would tell Drake/Justin Bieber/Brad Pitt " Sorry i don't know you well enough to go out with you?"

Well hopefully this has proved to you that what women say they want and whaat they actually want are two totally opposing things. Most of the time, you don't take advices from women on how to date women, because when one wants to catch a fish, he asks not the fishes but the fishermen instead.

[manfrombelow2]

On 3/2/2020 at 12:48 PM, barbossa said:

While women love the attention. They don't want to be approached.

This is where you got it wrong.

They don't want to be approached by thirsty beta orbiters. But they DO want to be approached by high SMV (sexual market value) guys aka alphas.

[carhill]

IME, one subset women do enjoy sucking attention from beta orbiters. Among them,  married ones were expert at this over the decades. I'm married, not dead 👍

That reality was where I coined the term emotional tampon from back in the 80's. Insert, bleed, remove, throw away, forget. When young there was a male version, maybe still is, 4F, find em feel em f*ck em forget em. Neither gender has high ground. Women risk 4F with guys who escalate.