Should I Ask Out a Girl Relatively Quickly or Wait to Get to Her Know First Then Ask Her Out?

[SumGuy]

15 minutes ago, GuitarGuy7 said:

The vast majority of women I interact with don't give you obvious signs; which this is probably the case for most men who aren't really good looking and not super charismatic.  What this tells me is that only a small percentage of women are receptive towards me; the vast majority of women I interact with are either not interested at all, or they don't know me well enough to form an opinion yet.  But this is only what I think. 

If it makes you feel any better that is the way of it even for those who have no trouble getting dates.  It's just that a lot people are out and about doing there day-to-day thing and obvious flirting is not normally part of it.

[GuitarGuy7]

I have a really small sample size but iv'e kept track of the girls I have asked out over the years. Iv'e asked out around 15 girls on a date; 3 have said yes. And out of those 3 girls, I asked them out within a month of first talking to them. 

So when iv'e known a girl for less than a month, iv'e gotten a yes 50% of the time. When iv'e known a girl for longer than a month, i'm 0 for 10.  Okay one technically said yes, but she was using me for free food the whole time while she talked about sleeping with her FWB and then later friendzoned me. (I talked about her in another thread)   When I have been friends with a girl first, and then asked her out after she has broken up with her boyfriend, i'm 0 for 4. 

What this tells me is that iv'e got a small window of time to make a move otherwise girls will tend to reject me. This could be for several reasons. 

1. Girls have a tendency to friendzone guys who don't make a move on them fast enough. 

2. Girls who have known me for longer than a month and know my traits and quirks may decide that i'm ultimately not dating material. On the other hand, girls who have known me less than a month haven't come to that conclusion yet, hence they are more likely to go on a date with me to test the waters.

Edited March 17, 2020 by GuitarGuy7

[SumGuy]

Of the girls who have dated you, how long does it last?

[GuitarGuy7]

5 hours ago, SumGuy said:

Of the girls who have dated you, how long does it last?

Out of the 3 girls I have gone on dates with (technically 4, but later found out she merely saw it as a platonic outing), none of them ever progressed to kissing or sex. 

Girl #1: We met on a college campus on December 20th of 2016 at the school I went to at the time. Since it was my first date ever, I was so nervous that my whole body was shaking. We met for an hour until she said that her mom needs her back home and then she left; she wound up ghosting me afterwards and I never saw her ever again. 

Girl #2: We met sometime in the summer of 2017. I knew from the moment that I saw her that I wasn't going to be attracted to her. But I guess she liked me enough to not completely ghost me and I hung out with her several times just to see if I would ever be attracted to her; I wasn't.  We never kissed or anything and I later stopped talking to her completely after August of 2017. 

Girl #3: I met her in the summer of 2018 in one of my summer classes. I only talked to her for a week before asking for her Snapchat and later out on a date and she said yes. We hung out twice but it was clear that during the second time, she wasn't feeling it and ultimately we stopped talking to one another. I stalked her Facebook and she had a boyfriend within a year. 

Girl #4: We met up during the summer of 2019. I thought it was a date while she merely saw it as a friendly platonic outing. She had broken up with her boyfriend a couple of months beforehand. I talked about her in a previous thread on Loveshack where everybody kept telling me that she only likes me as a friend, something that wound up being true. 

 

I have never had a woman (that I know of) be attracted to me. Every single woman that I have pursued, I have had to put in 100% of the initiation and effort, and these women seem to show very little investment in me.