How can a guy tell if a woman is a gold-digger?

[alphamale]

if she totes around a Gucci handbag, wears fancy jewelry and wears Jimmy Choo shoes then she's most likely a gold-digger.  If she ever says "Oh, I don't care about money" take it as a HUGE red flag.

[d0nnivain]

6 minutes ago, alphamale said:

if she totes around a Gucci handbag, wears fancy jewelry and wears Jimmy Choo shoes then she's most likely a gold-digger.  If she ever says "Oh, I don't care about money" take it as a HUGE red flag.

What???!!!

If she paid for all that stuff herself, she's a hard worker.  

[RecentChange]

2 minutes ago, alphamale said:

if she totes around a Gucci handbag, wears fancy jewelry and wears Jimmy Choo shoes then she's most likely a gold-digger.  If she ever says "Oh, I don't care about money" take it as a HUGE red flag.

Hum, I have never been one for expensive hand bags (seems like a colossal waste of money) but several of the female attorneys I work with have all the designer labels.... And they earn more than their husbands. 

Really there is no cut and dry. If it's a woman who seems more interested in your money and status than YOU, that is the sign she is a gold digger. 

It's not about how she looks, what she wears etc.

If it seems too good to be true (like "how did I land such a knock out") maybe have some deep conversations with her and so some soul searching. 

In short, don't be so gullible that you end up a mark for a con artist. A gold digger who isn't upfront about the arrangement is just that, a con artist.

Think with the big head instead of the little one.

This happens to women as well by the way, dumb show "90 day fiance" usually showed homely women with attractive men from third world counties who "loved them" - no the men are con artist and it's plain for anyone to see (except for the desperate women).

There was a guy lining up OLD dates and dine and dashing on the women - again,good looking con artist.

Don't fall for a con artist

[alphamale]

4 minutes ago, d0nnivain said:

What???!!!

If she paid for all that stuff herself, she's a hard worker.  

could be d0nnivain, I forgot to point that out

[Azincourt]

Does she look like a 19 year old Pamela Anderson while he looks like a 60 year old Woody Allen?

Gold-digger.

Is she a fashion model, part-time model dating juice wrld(R.I.P)?

Gold-digger.

Is she Kim Kardashian married to Kayne?

Not a gold-digger.

Basically, if she's very attractive and he's plain-looking, more often than not that dude ain't living paycheck to paycheck.

If she has expensive tastes but doesn't expect the guy to pay for them - not a gold-digger.

[MJJean]

On 3/12/2020 at 11:31 AM, Elswyth said:

It's "nice", but is it really worth trading your life for, even if you are a waitress in Detroit?

I think some of you are not clear on the definition of "gold digger". It does NOT mean a person who takes into consideration their partner's income or career, as part of the whole. It refers to a person who is with their partner SOLELY for the money.

I'm talking about women who date a man they otherwise wouldn't date because of their income, yes.

I know women who dated and now are currently married to men they don't even like solely because of their income. Working 40 hrs a week at a cruddy retail job for about $12k a year makes that pudgy socially awkward bad lover who brings in $60k and will let you stay home tolerable.

[Els]

13 minutes ago, MJJean said:

I'm talking about women who date a man they otherwise wouldn't date because of their income, yes.

I know women who dated and now are currently married to men they don't even like solely because of their income. Working 40 hrs a week at a cruddy retail job for about $12k a year makes that pudgy socially awkward bad lover who brings in $60k and will let you stay home tolerable.

Is your example for real? $12,000/52/40 is $5.70 per hour.

If that is truly the minimum wage in Detroit (a city in a supposedly developed country), I feel sorrier for the people making minimum wage there, than I feel for any person who's being "gold-dug".

[Azincourt]

1 hour ago, MJJean said:

I'm talking about women who date a man they otherwise wouldn't date because of their income, yes.

I know women who dated and now are currently married to men they don't even like solely because of their income. Working 40 hrs a week at a cruddy retail job for about $12k a year makes that pudgy socially awkward bad lover who brings in $60k and will let you stay home tolerable.

Depends. If they are equally matched in looks and he/she makes more than the partner, then no there's no gold-digging here.

If she's hot and he's average-looking and he makes more money than her - gold-digger.

[Fletch Lives]

1 hour ago, MJJean said:

I know women who dated and now are currently married to men they don't even like solely because of their income. Working 40 hrs a week at a cruddy retail job for about $12k a year makes that pudgy socially awkward bad lover who brings in $60k and will let you stay home tolerable.

 

 - That relationship may work for awhile - until the woman gets fed up with him and divorces him, takes half his money, and runs off with the poolboy.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Fletch Lives

[Ruby Slippers]

5 hours ago, MJJean said:

I'm talking about women who date a man they otherwise wouldn't date because of their income, yes.

I know women who dated and now are currently married to men they don't even like solely because of their income. Working 40 hrs a week at a cruddy retail job for about $12k a year makes that pudgy socially awkward bad lover who brings in $60k and will let you stay home tolerable.

I was visiting my parents a while back and a family friend was visiting with her new boyfriend and the situation was obviously something like this. The woman works all the time, several jobs, as a single mom. The man has his own business and makes a lot more money. It was obvious to me she's looking to this man to rescue her financially. She's thin and attractive and he's very overweight and looks unhealthy. She was sitting about a mile away from him on the couch, made several mentions of his money and how he can pay for this or that.

This guy would have to be completely deluded not to see what's going. The only way a guy like him could get a woman like her is to offer her "a better life."

[Azincourt]

43 minutes ago, Ruby Slippers said:

 

This guy would have to be completely deluded not to see what's going. The only way a guy like him could get a woman like her is to offer her "a better life."

40% of  Americans are obese.

The rest are overweight which is a smaller scale of obesity.  A healthy woman is automatically considered to be very attractive by default  just because she is not addicted to Mcdonalds, by a very large amount of men.

Of the 150 million  and some American men the only guy she got to meet with money is a very overweight dude?

I don't know how old she is, but if she's in her early 20s it shouldn't be too hard for her to join a modelling agency.

From there to meeting physically attractive rich men, it's easy peasy.

Or she could move to Europe. Lots of average-looking rich professional soccer players marry women who don't have much going for them other than their looks.

If your friend is smart and plays her cards right.

Is she as attractive as Georgina Rodriguez? That young woman is dating Cristiano Ronaldo. He earned over 600 million euros from his sport, offers her millionaire-priced houses, offers her millions-worth jewels and he gives her 100.000 euros in cash, each month. Tell your friend she's wasting herself away with this small fish.

That sugar daddy moving to Europe would also be a good idea. There's a Germany escort agency that only allows men whose fortune amount at least to 11 million euros(12 million euros) to join the membership.

There are two methods of payment. 

2000 euros(2200 dollars) will get you an hour with a top notch escort, I'm talking Saudi Prince concubine material, and if you pay your favorite escort 20.000 a month, you can have as many turns at it as you want. They cater to international waters, too. One of the escorts works for a Miami- based athelete.

A much better deal than what that obese guy is getting right now from your friend, and he can get variety and women who are much younger than him(assuming he's in his 30s or 40s).

Funny thing, months ago there was a scandal going on in England because it was found that, a bunch of Premiere League(that's the richest soccer players who play in England) were members of said Escorting agency  - married men.

Rich men ''cheating'' on their wives.

it's the first time since the first Homo Sapiens came to exist that this has happened, yes?

Edited March 17, 2020 by Azincourt

[Azincourt]

4 hours ago, Fletch Lives said:

 

 - That relationship may work for awhile - until the woman gets fed up with him and divorces him, takes half his money, and runs off with the poolboy.

Michael Douglas first wife took 45 millions with her after the divorce.

Catherine Zeta-Jones prenup deal with Michael Douglas was, if the guy cheats on her/divorces her, he has to pay her 200+ Million dollars plus the properties she was after.

Jeff Bezos wife took about what, 60 billion dollars with her divorce settlement? I know, she helped him build the company.

One of the men in my family also helped the IKEA founder create the company. I need to call him to ask him how many billions he took home.

I know a sports guy who makes 5 million euros a year, his wife is already rich from her career as an actress and a singer, but he still has to pay 500k  a year, and if he gets a better contract from a club and his  yearly income goes up, so will his child-support payments, plus other expenses.

She also took the mansions and she was going to take his collection car(s) but ahem, he stored it in a friend's garage.

he's not allowed to meet his in person and hasn't seen in 2 or 3 years.

She married another guy last year and she did the same, again to that new guy. The only thing he is entitled to is the baby-car he bought for the kid he shares with her.

I don't really have much to say about this other than I have a great respect and admiration for these businesswomen.

I wil do the same if I ever get the opportunity to meet Madonna or J-lo or any other rich woman.  I'll even marry a woman 50 years my senior( I'm in my 30s) if that gets me the lifestyle that I desire. I'll just close my eyes and think of England.

Go, Go Manchester United!

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by Azincourt

[Allupinnit]

A lot of these old pudgy rich men know exactly what's going on they simply don't care.  You can't tell me that J. Howard Marshall wasn't happy as a clam the last 14 months of his life.

If you marry for money you work incredibly hard for every single penny, though.  Most average Joe's making 60k don't have women after their money.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Allupinnit

[Azincourt]

4 minutes ago, Allupinnit said:

A lot of these old pudgy rich men know exactly what's going on they simply don't care.  You can't tell me that J. Howard Marshall wasn't happy as a clam the last 14 months of his life.

If you marry for money you work incredibly hard for every single penny, though.  Most average Joe's making 60k don't have women after their money.

True. I wouldn't mind that.

If I was a 80 year old billionaire I'd be partying it up with Playboy models, as long as the services provided were up to standard.

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If you marry for money you work incredibly hard for every single penny, though.

Situational.

The wives of the players of Germany's national soccer team work hard for their money. They spend most of the time at the gym, they will probably get plastic surgeries once they start to get into their 30s and 40s, they most likely let the guy smash whenever he wants it and they do stuff they probably wouldn't do for other men.

But they shouldn't get mad when their husbands sleep with other women, or when they have other women on the side as a regular relationship. This 20 year old kid joined Atlético de Madrid team about 6 months ago, with an income of 6 million euros after taxes being paid, 2.5 million mansion in the city of Madrid if I'm not mistaken.

When he went from making only 500k a year to making 6 millions,  just from his yearly wages, not mentioning his signing fee and  money-making contract clauses, he go himself a blonde bombshell about a week after the contract was signed.

She dumped him when she found out he was sleeping with(another blonde bombshell) a doctor, when the doctor annoyed that he just wanted to smash sent his girlfriend the instagram convo of him asking her to come to his house to smash.

She dumped him but a week after the break-up they were together once again.

There's a lot of gorgeous women but there ain't that many rich atheletes, and they're only dating, not married.

I love pink drama 🤣

[Azincourt]

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Most average Joe's making 60k don't have women after their money.

Most average Joes who live in the states or in Canada. Because of how expensive life is in the North American continent.

60K a year in Spain, Portugal or Greece, not to mention the former Soviet-Union nations gets you a much younger, much hotter girlfriend.

The kind that will do a lot of stuff to keep you as her boyfriend.

Honestly, in those Countries just looking like you have a job, any job, will get you laid easily with a woman whose looks back home in the states would expect you to pay for a $100-$500 dinner date, and the only thing you'd probably get would be a kiss on the cheek(not you, just generally speaking).

[Allupinnit]

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you should.  Lots of very wealthy people and athletes have no problem staying faithful.  

[Azincourt]

5 minutes ago, Allupinnit said:

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you should.  Lots of very wealthy people and athletes have no problem staying faithful.  

Can't disagree with that.

I respect guys who have that many opportunities to have fun and don't take it.

God knows I wouldn't be able to stay faithful if I had millions in the bank and thousands of super attractive women throwing themselves at me.

You know Spain's economical situation is bad, when a guy(that kid) goes from saying he never got much luck with women, to having hundreds of women suddenly sending him nudes and offers for(nah, they want to snag a rich soccer player) an one-night stand with him

I feel a mixture of sadness because these women are pretty much selling themselves, a mixture of hilarity over the whole comical situation, and a mixture of envy.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Azincourt

[MJJean]

6 hours ago, Elswyth said:

Is your example for real? $12,000/52/40 is $5.70 per hour.

If that is truly the minimum wage in Detroit (a city in a supposedly developed country), I feel sorrier for the people making minimum wage there, than I feel for any person who's being "gold-dug".

I should have been more clear. I'm using take home pay numbers. Post tax.

But, yeah, there are a lot of people who work service industry jobs for minimum wage or less, in the case of waitstaff, for example. 

5 hours ago, Fletch Lives said:

 

 - That relationship may work for awhile - until the woman gets fed up with him and divorces him, takes half his money, and runs off with the poolboy.

The she's that are in "for the money" marriages I know have no intention of leaving. If they leave, even with alimony, they'd have to work the same crappy jobs they married to get away from. Apparently, it never crossed their minds to get a degree or something in their spare time. I know for sure one of them plays discreetly on the side. I suspect another does, as well.

1 hour ago, Ruby Slippers said:

I was visiting my parents a while back and a family friend was visiting with her new boyfriend and the situation was obviously something like this. The woman works all the time, several jobs, as a single mom. The man has his own business and makes a lot more money. It was obvious to me she's looking to this man to rescue her financially. She's thin and attractive and he's very overweight and looks unhealthy. She was sitting about a mile away from him on the couch, made several mentions of his money and how he can pay for this or that.

This guy would have to be completely deluded not to see what's going. The only way a guy like him could get a woman like her is to offer her "a better life."

I've watched that kind of thing happen, too. Wife going on and on about where they've gone on vacation, the house they just bought, the new car she's getting because her old one wasn't safe or some such tripe. All the while totally ignoring or even pushing away the guy who's paying for it all.

When you try to hold your wife's hand as she talks about her lifestyle and she or grits her teeth or about becomes a pretzel to avoid touch , you might have a gold digger.

[Fletch Lives]

1 hour ago, MJJean said:

The she's that are in "for the money" marriages I know have no intention of leaving. If they leave, even with alimony, they'd have to work the same crappy jobs they married to get away from. Apparently, it never crossed their minds to get a degree or something in their spare time. I know for sure one of them plays discreetly on the side. I suspect another does, as well.

 - yes, if they don't eventually divorce, they live a life of quiet desperation. Desperate housewives. 

 

[Azincourt]

2 hours ago, Fletch Lives said:

 - yes, if they don't eventually divorce, they live a life of quiet desperation. Desperate housewives. 

 

They can always hook-up with the construction workers who've been hired by their husbands to build a new pool.

Or they can have very meaningful relationships with young men who work under their husband, a 60 year old legless publishing agent married to a 25 year old Brazilian woman who is his personal cook, nurse, and trophy wife.

[chillii]

Most of the stuff here is stating the very obvious , it's the sneaky un'obvious stuff that's tricky.

[Azincourt]

yes, gold-diggers are evolving, becoming better at deceiving men, especially with the global recession that has been hitting the western nations since 2008.