simpycurious Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 8 hours ago, littleblackheart said: If it's a mutually agreed arrangement, not sure the label applies. There are gold diggers of any age whose sole aim is to fleece the guy. It happens to attractive young men too (plenty of such stories with sportsmen or artists) Many more than people ever know about. Money is at exclusive to age in many respects. Plenty of 20 somethings with lots of money. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LivingWaterPlease Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, thefooloftheyear said: We don't really know the case with Pres and first lady, but its kind of unfair to assume its only about money....Remember that woman that came forward during the lection that claimed he fondled her on an airplane? She said she was actually ok with it as long as it was limited to breasts...I mean did she think he was going to cut her a check on the way off the plane? Nope...But a regular Joe isn't going to be able to do that... Many dislike him, but he's a charismatic enough of a guy that I could easily see many women drawn to just that alone.. TFY Because I see this couple commented on fairly often as to their compatibility in attractiveness and also the fact that she's with him for his money (gold digger) I'm posting this. Sorry it's a little lengthy but just to those who think about this issue: I'm going to agree with you about the President. I'm sure many will disagree with both how I view the President and how I view the first lady. He wasn't my choice for the Republican nomination but he's my same age and I have admired him as handsome since I was aware of him many years ago when he was a businessman and married to Ivana. I have studied his life and early photos when he was running for president and IMO, he was and is a very good-looking man. During his school years he was admired as a leader and a person who was kind to others and helped others. I believe that throughout his life he has had many women admirers for who he is as a man (personality, charisma, and, yes, good looks, etc.), not just for his money or social position. Many who evaluate his appearance now are younger and are evaluating him from photos alone so I can understand why they wouldn't find him physically attractive. Some who don't like the way he looks and mock his hair, etc., dislike his politics and behavior. However, I understand his actual persona is much different than the person the public views him as bc of his politics and adding up on paper the qualities of his behavior. I believe in person he has been, and probably still would be were it not for political prejudice and folks judging him on his tv appearances, etc., at this point, a real catch for those who would interact with him in person and are fairly close to his age, at least, not the twenty and thirty-year-olds. But those Melania's age and older. Most men won't agree with me on this part, I don't believe. Although, IMO, as a first lady Melania has behaved with class and that she has incredible taste in the way she dresses, I think she's attractive but not beautiful. I do think in many of her earlier photos she was beautiful and that she still has an incredible figure and her hair is well groomed. But, to me, she looks very unhappy. Maybe she seems happier in person so not judging who she is. To me, appearance-wise, at this point in their lives they are well-matched. I have to say I really admire how Melania has held up as our first lady for many reasons I'm not going to state here because it would seem political. And I really appreciate the way she dresses and presents herself. Her taste in clothing and the way she wears it is remarkable! Edited March 8, 2020 by LivingWaterPlease Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 If anyone would be clued in on how to tell a gold-digger, it'd be a NYC'er like Trump whose been around gold-diggers his whole life. TFOY same. They know. As someone else posted, if there's an arm's length arrangement, it's not gold-digging. A pre-nup, pretty common, is good evidence of an arrangement. Anna Nicole and Howard Marshall? More likely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Realitysux Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 8:40 PM, Ellener said: And so often it is! But yes, a follower of Jesus should be giving their wealth away to the poor. What is your concern with gold-diggers about @Metsgal? Disagree with this 100 percent. There are organizations in place to help with poverty. People who follow Jesus should be giving to God's work and scripture specifically calls to give it to the church. They are not required to give any money to the poor people and having wealth is a symbol of hard work. Link to post Share on other sites
Eugeleh Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Quote I don't agree with you that if she publicly criticizes her husband it would be a step in the direction of class. Then perhaps merely a step away from glaring hypocrisy. Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 **** Moderator's Note **** Let's keep the posts on topic please, while Trump is off topic there are things about who is he that might help the topic of "How can a guy tell if a woman is a gold digger". Debating his credentials is off topic while debating his marriages is on topic. Link to post Share on other sites
Ellener Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 What is your concern with gold-diggers @Metsgal? And has anyone had experience of feeling 'taken for a ride' financially? I do know through my work someone who was taken for thousands, he was not just a 'gold-digger' but an out and out con artist... Link to post Share on other sites
Realitysux Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Realitysux said: Disagree with this 100 percent. There are organizations in place to help with poverty. People who follow Jesus should be giving to God's work and scripture specifically calls to give it to the church. They are not required to give any money to the poor people and having wealth is a symbol of hard work. Since I've got a few people laughing at my post, please read. There are twenty more versus I can send you. Followers of Jesus typically follow scripture. If you give to Gods work then those suffering can receive God and be saved and blessed with the help of God. You give someone money but no faith, you have done that man no favor. Numbers 18:26-29 New International Version (NIV) 26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the Lord’s offering. 27 Your offering will be reckoned to you as grain from the threshing floor or juice from the winepress. 28 In this way you also will present an offering to the Lord from all the tithes you receive from the Israelites. From these tithes you must give the Lord’s portion to Aaron the priest. 29 You must present as the Lord’s portion the best and holiest part of everything given to you.’ Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 When my dad was old, there were all kinds of people around trying to take advantage both male and female. Common denominator is they all want money or free stuff, whether large or small amounts. There was one girl who used to write herself a check for $50 on my dad's account and there was a man who used to write himself thousands of dollars off the account. if someone is hanging around because you got free booze or whatever, they may be a low-key gold digger just on a very small scale but it's the same mindset. certainly when you get into the modern-day internet gold-diggers you've got women asking you to buy them designer purses and all kinds of stuff and making up sob story so you'll give them money to help support them some way. They themselves May lie and act like they have more money or a better job than they do. A girl work in my office who never bought her own lunch or dinner and didn't eat unless someone was paying for it. Link to post Share on other sites
SumGuy Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 @Realitysux too much of a thread derail to comment...I agree though give more than just money and tithing is fine, but still stand by Matthew 19:24 Link to post Share on other sites
Realitysux Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, SumGuy said: @Realitysux too much of a thread derail to comment...I agree though give more than just money and tithing is fine, but still stand by Matthew 19:24 I know, but this is this is the topic that interests me. I do believe that verse as making money sometimes means breaking the law (if you consider tax laws). There is a righteous expectation regarding working. You can make good money legally without defrauding the government but money is a temptation so you would have to be a strong enough Christian (or in your religion) to resist the temptation. A lot of wealth is hidden from the government's taxes since they take a lot of it. The post did mention follower of Jesus! Edited March 9, 2020 by Realitysux Link to post Share on other sites
littleblackheart Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I believe it was the wise 21st century American poet and philosopher Mr Kanye West / Yeezy / Ye who said it best, in his profound reflection on the subject in 'gold digger' (ft Jamie Foxx) Quote Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger But she ain't messin' with no broke [...]' 1 Link to post Share on other sites
2BGoodAgain Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 easy... take her out to McD for dinner. See her reaction. Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Just because someone doesn't like McD doesn't mean they're a golddigger though. I had a bf years ago that only ate at McD when possible, so we'd go there, and then we'd go get something for me. Link to post Share on other sites
RecentChange Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 2BGoodAgain said: easy... take her out to McD for dinner. See her reaction. Oh come on' surely you are joking. I am more of a sugar mama than I would ever be a good digger - but would strongly bristle at McDonald's. McDonald's isn't a good barometer. Edited March 9, 2020 by RecentChange Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, RecentChange said: Oh come on' surely you are joking. I am more of a sugar mama than I would ever be a good digger - but would strongly bristle at McDonald's. McDonald's isn't a good barometer. I'd have to agree... But what may be an interesting :"test" is show up on a first date with an older car...Even if you didnt own one, borrow one from a buddy...It doesn't have to be falling apart but maybe an old ratty pickup or something like that....Then see what type of response you get ....I think it may speak volumes about how she sees you as a guy...and what type of judgement she has or places in material things or "image"..... TFY Edited March 9, 2020 by thefooloftheyear Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, 2BGoodAgain said: easy... take her out to McD for dinner. See her reaction. I'd scream. Not because I'm a gold digger but because I don't like fast food for an early date. Now if he offered a brunch date to a local bagel shop OK fine. If he offered a cheap food truck but the food was delicious OK fine. Fast food. . .just no. Between the harsh lights & the plastic furniture bolted to the floor. . this is not a person I would date. The idea that somebody thought they needed to "test" me to see if I was gold digger . . . again not somebody who I would deem a good long term match 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Springsummer Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, preraph said: A girl work in my office who never bought her own lunch or dinner and didn't eat unless someone was paying for it. wow....never?! she must be very beautiful then, so men line up to pay for her. No one has ever bought me lunch or dinner...I am not the type who is even comfortable to take advantage of anyone, but no one has ever lined up to pay for me either. gosh...am I that bad looking? makes me feel self-pity again. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Ha, ha I didn't/don't have to borrow one😂 Back in the day I often wouldn't take the portable welder out of the back when meeting or picking up a date. If it worked out then I'd show up in an even older car. 'What do you do?' 'I fix things' 'Oh'. 'Wanna go to the races?' 'What kind?' 'Drag racing' 'Oh' . Very few got far enough along to meet the race car. 🤔😂 7 minutes ago, thefooloftheyear said: But what may be an interesting :"test" is show up on a first date with an older car...Even if you didnt own one, borrow one from a buddy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RecentChange Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, thefooloftheyear said: I'd have to agree... But what may be an interesting :"test" is show up on a first date with an older car...Even if you didnt own one, borrow one from a buddy...It doesn't have to be falling apart but maybe an old ratty pickup or something like that....Then see what type of response you get ....I think it may speak volumes about how she sees you as a guy...and what type of judgement she has or places in material things or "image"..... TFY Hum.... I still don't know that would mean "gold digger" if she wasn't thrilled that guy drove an old ratty truck to pick her up for a date. I mean we are talking about people older than let's say 21 - who should be well on their way to "adulting" right? If a guy was driving a beater, I would wonder why he is still struggling financially in life. Is he going to be asking me for rides to work when that clunker breaks down? I guess there is a fine line - someone who has demonstrated that they are succeeding to a basic level in life financially, and someone who is struggling along. Worn out cars and McDonald's for dates, I would assume that the guy is financially struggling. I know books and their covers and all of that. Once knew a multimillionaire who drove a striped down Toyota mini truck, but he was not the norm. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, RecentChange said: Worn out cars and McDonald's for dates, I would assume that the guy is financially struggling. Yes and many would then bin him due to lack of money. But I guess a lot more would bin him as soon as they found out they were being "tested" and it was all a lie... That shows he is a certain type of a bitter, paranoid and no doubt a mean/cheap guy and that is not attractive. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Springsummer said: wow....never?! she must be very beautiful then, so men line up to pay for her. No one has ever bought me lunch or dinner...I am not the type who is even comfortable to take advantage of anyone, but no one has ever lined up to pay for me either. gosh...am I that bad looking? makes me feel self-pity again. She said, "If someone doesn't take me to dinner, I don't eat." She would go to dinner with anyone, I guess. She was a call girl, her and her sister. She was totally comfortable taking advantage of horny guys! Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 You kind of expect young guys to be broke, so not making any judgments on them about old cars or cheap meals. We were most of us broke when young. At that point, you watch to see if they're ambitious or if they are more lazy. I dated plenty of guys who didn't have money to spend on dining out when I was in my 20s. Although most of them did seem to have money for going out clubbing and booze! But then so did I. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RecentChange Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, preraph said: She said, "If someone doesn't take me to dinner, I don't eat." She would go to dinner with anyone, I guess. She was a call girl, her and her sister. She was totally comfortable taking advantage of horny guys! As they say, there is no such thing as free lunch. Sure she isn't paying for dinner I guess, but she is having to "put out" - at the very least feign interest in a guy, perhaps laugh at his bad jokes. Be seen out with him, because you know, "showing off" who he is out with his part of the deal, if she wasn't good looking, he wouldn't be paying for the dinner. And that's the least of it, if she was a call girl, I guess she was used to selling her affection, and likely her body. Not only for many does that affect their core being, how they feel about themselves, how much respect and love they truly have for themselves (what is their "accomplishment - conning men?). Plus that is some real baggage, many "husband material" men have little interest in a woman who worked in the sex industry. I just don't understand why free dinners would be worth it..... Edited March 9, 2020 by RecentChange Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I don't think she necessarily slept with them all in repayment for lunch. That's probly extra. Link to post Share on other sites
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