RecentChange Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 According to my immunologist friend, it can live on cardboard for up to 24 hours, so risk seems smaller on delivered packages. Best to wash hands after handling, dispose of packaging, etc. Most transmission is from person to person contact, that is why social distancing is so important. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Apparently hard surfaces are easier for the critter to live on, go figure. In other news my germ and cleaning fetish is finally working out, not in a way I would have wanted though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Lemming Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, RecentChange said: According to my immunologist friend, it can live on cardboard for up to 24 hours, so risk seems smaller on delivered packages. Best to wash hands after handling, dispose of packaging, etc. Yes... I heard that as well. I mixed up a bleach/water solution (CDC Recipe) and spray any boxes that get delivered, let the solution dry, then open them up and throw the box in my recycling bin/can. Speaking of trash cans, after the garbage truck picks up my cans; I coat them in the same bleach/water solution and let them dry in the sun. I have no idea how many cans that lifting arm has touched, so the cans get sterilized. I understand bleach is very effective at killing the virus. Link to post Share on other sites
2BGoodAgain Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) my ex-GFs have all told me i have the emotional equivalent of a robot... so social distancing shouldn't be too hard for me.... I don't know what they have against robots... though.... Edited March 25, 2020 by 2BGoodAgain Link to post Share on other sites
BC1980 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I'm on the extrovert side of the scale, so I'm restless. I'm on page 600 of a 700 page book though. I've managed to freak myself out a bit by watching documentaries on the Spanish flu on You Tube. Link to post Share on other sites
Author alphamale Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, BC1980 said: I'm on the extrovert side of the scale, so I'm restless. I'm on page 600 of a 700 page book though. I've managed to freak myself out a bit by watching documentaries on the Spanish flu on You Tube. are you reading War and Peace BC1980?? Link to post Share on other sites
BC1980 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, alphamale said: are you reading War and Peace BC1980?? Ha! No, but that book is actually in TBR pile for the year. I'm reading "Dragonfly in Amber," which is the second book in the Outlander series. It's good but not great. I'm ready for it to end. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrs rubble Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 We’re in total lockdown here now. No one except essential workers are allowed out. The super markets are still open but there is a limit on how many people are allowed in the store at one time and you have to be alone and spend no more than 30 minutes in the store, some items are limited in numbers. Liquor sales are also restricted. Limits on how much and where you can get it from. All essential workers have PPE, no delivery except for essential needs. Our government has hit this hard, hopefully we’ll contain it here sooner rather than later, by the looks of the numbers around the world and the actions or inactions of some leaders we might be cut off from the rest of the world for some time to come. Stay safe/ stay home! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author alphamale Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, mrs rubble said: Liquor sales are also restricted. wtf? that's where i draw the line 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, alphamale said: wtf? that's where i draw the line LOL! I'm in PA and our state Wine & Spirits stores closed over a week ago. Beer distributors are still open and local wineries are offering free delivery. Everyone who needs it will get their liquor :). Link to post Share on other sites
2BGoodAgain Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, CautiouslyOptimistic said: LOL! I'm in PA and our state Wine & Spirits stores closed over a week ago. Beer distributors are still open and local wineries are offering free delivery. Everyone who needs it will get their liquor :). it's an essential business... i mean, all that alcohol to rid us the virus.. Link to post Share on other sites
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, 2BGoodAgain said: it's an essential business... i mean, all that alcohol to rid us the virus.. I think it's more so emergency rooms are not inundated with folks in withdrawal! Beer distributors in PA are going to get a boost to their businesses since liquor stores are closed for those who prefer hard liquor.....they will have no choice but to revert to beer. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mrs rubble Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, alphamale said: wtf? that's where i draw the line The government makes the rules, I’m sure there are plenty of home brewers out there making their own. We have several bottles of spirits here, we don’t really drink them. Maybe good for trade in a few weeks time though! Link to post Share on other sites
Ellener Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 In TX laws have been temporarily relaxed to allow pick up/delivery of alcohol with food orders. People are social distancing well, except it's hard in the supermarkets, things just aren't set up to be six feet apart; but out in the parks people are just stepping aside and giving a smile or wave, all very civilised. Link to post Share on other sites
greymatter Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I bought a case of my favorite beer at Costco on Sunday (it's a 24 pack). Hopefully that will help the local brewery that makes it, and I will have it on hand. That being said, I never feel like drinking beer when I'm home alone. I guess I'm truly a social drinker because I only drink beer when I'm with my BF and right now I can't stay over at his house, which means the beer won't cross my lips for a while. But it's still nice to have it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrs rubble Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I’m truly concerned for the USA, I did a quick search of numbers. New York has a population of approximately 20 million & 75000 cases of covid, New Zealand has a population of nearly 5 million, we have just over 700 cases, of you multiply our numbers by 4 to match New York, we should be at 2800. Your president needs to search virus numbers instead of economics! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gaius Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 New Zealand was one of the countries that shut down international travel early on, like Denmark. Which is something our public health officials swear doesn't work. Oddly enough all the places that did that have a fraction of the cases we do. What a strange coincidence. 🤔 4 Link to post Share on other sites
2BGoodAgain Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 11:59 PM, mrs rubble said: I’m truly concerned for the USA, I did a quick search of numbers. New York has a population of approximately 20 million & 75000 cases of covid, New Zealand has a population of nearly 5 million, we have just over 700 cases, of you multiply our numbers by 4 to match New York, we should be at 2800. Your president needs to search virus numbers instead of economics! you have to realize most of NY's cases are in NYC... the population density is MUCH higher...hence the mad infection rates. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NuevoYorko Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, 2BGoodAgain said: you have to realize most of NY's cases are in NYC... the population density is MUCH higher...hence the mad infection rates. We also realize that this virus has an exponential pattern of spreading. Do you think it recognizes the city limits of NYC? Today there are 102,863 confirmed cases in NY state. 57,159 of these are in NYC. That leaves 45,704 confirmed cases in the state outside of the city. New Jersey, the state with the 2nd most cases, has 25,590. So, even without NYC, the state vastly overshadows any other in the USA with confirmed COVID-19 cases. Also deaths and daily rate of deaths (total jumped by 300 in the past 24 hours.) Link to post Share on other sites
lana-banana Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) I just traded half a loaf of my homemade bread for a few rolls of toilet paper so, you know, things are going fine. Edited April 3, 2020 by lana-banana Link to post Share on other sites
littleblackheart Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) I only take the car every 10 days for a food shop. When I drove it last I freaked out about being less than 2 meters away from other cars...I also catch myself being on edge watching a film on netflix when the characters get far too close to each other. The secondary effects of social distancing... Edited April 3, 2020 by littleblackheart Link to post Share on other sites
FMW Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, littleblackheart said: being on edge watching a film on netflix when the characters get far too close to each other Me too! I was watching something that showed a park filled with people and I started feeling anxious and felt like yelling at the screen "what's wrong with you people, spread out!" Link to post Share on other sites
Ellener Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 3/25/2020 at 8:46 PM, alphamale said: wtf? that's where i draw the line Essential services apparently in TX... Link to post Share on other sites
Minneloa Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, FMW said: Me too! I was watching something that showed a park filled with people and I started feeling anxious and felt like yelling at the screen "what's wrong with you people, spread out!" Same here! I wondered why the people onscreen were having in-person meetings! 😅 Link to post Share on other sites
nospam99 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Re: NYC. I don't know if there are any other cities in the US that have the particular public transportation setup that would mitigate to lots of infections. Factors: - a lot or people from outlying suburban counties commute to work in NYC. Looking at the county breakdown in NY state, those counties are also heavily hit. See the dark colored counties on this map https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Map?%3Aembed=yes&%3Atoolbar=no - Once in NYC, people 'getting around' are (or were) packed like sardines into subway cars and buses. How many of the thousands of cases in NYC now were infected on the subways and in the buses before the government closed businesses down in NYC? I don't think we can ever know for sure. But .... Japan also has very crowded public transit. Were they just more proactive about 'shutting down'? Or is my speculation about the role of crowded public transit in spreading the virus off target? Link to post Share on other sites
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