How is your relationship in isolation?

[CaliforniaGirl]

I don't know, I'm kind of at that point of calling Jolene and telling her I changed my mind with all the whiny stuff in that song.

He's just...

I mean he's...

Here.

He's here all. The. Time.

Watching me.

We bump into eachother.

GET TF OUT. GET OUT OF...YOUR DAMNED HOUSE.

Ahhhhhh....I feel so much better now.

[chillii]

Haven't heard it , think l'm relieved .

Always thought if l was a singer song writer there'd be no damn love songs ha, probly sell no records .

[CaliforniaGirl]

7 minutes ago, chillii said:

Haven't heard it , think l'm relieved .

Always thought if l was a singer song writer there'd be no damn love songs ha, probly sell no records .

It's an old song where the singer is begging Jolene not to take her man. 😂

[chillii]

 

Ahh that one yeah know it , sad song you can feel her pain.

[Ruby Slippers]

My boyfriend and I seem to be on the same wavelength. We both went through our workday (from home) yesterday slightly irritated with all the typical work BS. At the end of the day, we went out to exercise. I told him every little thing was getting on my nerves all day, and he said he felt the same way. I noted that we both kept to ourselves for the most part, so as not to take out our irritation on each other. Good strategy.

[CaliforniaGirl]

15 hours ago, chillii said:

 

Ahh that one yeah know it , sad song you can feel her pain.

Now that she's stuck with that man in quarantine I'll bet she can feel mine.

[preraph]

Just what I've said all along about how homeschooling prevents a lot of kids from being protected from neglect and abuse is being proven right now in Dallas.. the Dallas child advocacy center just released a news report about it. They said referrals to them from child protective services is way down because the kids are not in school or where other adults can see them who will notice something is wrong. 

 

And they just found a kid locked in a shed this week.

 

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

33 minutes ago, preraph said:

Just what I've said all along about how homeschooling prevents a lot of kids from being protected from neglect and abuse is being proven right now in Dallas.. the Dallas child advocacy center just released a news report about it. They said referrals to them from child protective services is way down because the kids are not in school or where other adults can see them who will notice something is wrong. 

 

And they just found a kid locked in a shed this week.

 

 

Oh my God, that's horrible. 😨

[preraph]

You know it's not hard to figure out how many bad parents there are. there was a report yesterday for the Dallas-Fort Worth area you know the suburbs and all different school districts about how many students have not even checked in for home schooling online during this pandemic. they became so concerned about it in one place that they sent a team of people out to go house-to-house because they couldn't find them via electronic or telephonic means. And even then they only found about half of them. 

 

In Dallas there's over a thousand that simply aren't making an appearance. They've already done early on all they can do to donate laptops and whatever they would need but these are people they just have gone off the map. So that's how many parents are even responsible enough to check in with the school and let them know what's going on much less see to it that their kids are getting their education. 

[5x5]

2 hours ago, preraph said:

You know it's not hard to figure out how many bad parents there are. there was a report yesterday for the Dallas-Fort Worth area you know the suburbs and all different school districts about how many students have not even checked in for home schooling online during this pandemic.

So given you crystal ball, are my wife and I bad parents? Since our 16 year old daughter hasn't done any school work  (since she doesn't want to),  at all this year and hardly any most of last year.

At the end of the day, there is only so much we can do to encourage her to do any schoolwork at all.

[CaliforniaGirl]

3 hours ago, preraph said:

You know it's not hard to figure out how many bad parents there are. there was a report yesterday for the Dallas-Fort Worth area you know the suburbs and all different school districts about how many students have not even checked in for home schooling online during this pandemic. they became so concerned about it in one place that they sent a team of people out to go house-to-house because they couldn't find them via electronic or telephonic means. And even then they only found about half of them. 

 

In Dallas there's over a thousand that simply aren't making an appearance. They've already done early on all they can do to donate laptops and whatever they would need but these are people they just have gone off the map. So that's how many parents are even responsible enough to check in with the school and let them know what's going on much less see to it that their kids are getting their education. 

Do you mean officially homeschooled kids or kids in public school being assigned distance learning due to school closures? Because I know the latter has been kind of a hell hole for a lot of parents who are just not natural teachers or who work so they're not even there, and they're coming home exhausted. I mean most of us parents are trying (my kids are keeping up well) and just not even checking in is drastic but the work the kids are doing now doesn't even count toward grades. Literally my kids could have done not one stitch of work as of March 16 and their final grades could not have been changed. 

We're not using that as an excuse, my kids are highly motivated, but who knows whether some just checked out months ago. I don't know.

But if it's families that already homeschooled then that's weird. They would presumably already have had a whole system in place, known their curriculum for the remainder of the year and the whole bit.

Edited May 17, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl

[CaliforniaGirl]

51 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

So given you crystal ball, are my wife and I bad parents? Since our 16 year old daughter hasn't done any school work  (since she doesn't want to),  at all this year and hardly any most of last year.

At the end of the day, there is only so much we can do to encourage her to do any schoolwork at all.

 

Is she failing all her classes? I wouldn't be asking a lot of strangers whether they think you're bad parents. That probably calls for professionals. There must be a lot going on there and no way can some internet forum either judge or fix it. Will be thinking of you guys.

[chillii]

Think he was joking.

But eh 5x5 nope. ya can lead a horse blah blah, not the end of the world. My daughter wouldn't even go or if she did she'd rock up at 10 or 11 am , before she was 17 , but she passed. Low n behold 11 and 12 she turned around and mostly got A's and some A pluses we were wondering where our real daughter went..We were never worried about it though she's a smart girl , educations not everything especially early yrs , stoked she somehow passed everything though at least , and then boom.

[5x5]

3 hours ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

 

Is she failing all her classes? I wouldn't be asking a lot of strangers whether they think you're bad parents. That probably calls for professionals. There must be a lot going on there and no way can some internet forum either judge or fix it. Will be thinking of you guys.

I was just challenging the idea that preraph can tell how many bad parents are out there, based upon school attendance etc. Since on the surface our youngest child is refusing to do schoolwork (and has runaway on more than one occasion), so given that perspective, my wife and I can be lumped in with the great mass that preraph disparages.

Yet such statistics don't tell the whole story.

Our eldest (who lives at home with us) is a 20 year old full time university student who achieved state honours for his Higher School Certificate results, which saw him receive first round offers from multiple national top ten universities. He is also reasonably well adjusted, fit, healthy, happy, diligent, hard working, and has a steady girlfriend as well. So we seem to have raised him well to some degree.

While my wife and I are fortunate in being wealthy enough to afford a comfortable lifestyle, and have been able to provide access to plentiful opportunities for our children to avail themselves.

Likewise although I finished High School at Year 11 instead of year 12 to join the Army and have not been to university. I have multiple qualifications in Infantry operations, personnel management and intelligence operations. While my wife has multiple tertiary qualifications including a BASc degree, and is still doing more studies as part of and to further her government management career. So we both value education, discipline and a great work ethic.

Yet despite that our beautiful, highly gifted and talented (in sport, music writing and visual art) daughter, who used to be a happy A-B student. Is afflicted with anorexia-nervous which may take her life. Combined with high anxiety and cutting herself terribly with blades as well. Plus having to deal with violence from her as wel because of anorexia, of which it isn't nice calling the Police on your own child. While this year she has runaway from home to get away from her treatment (fortunately found by Police),  on top of her issues with school.

Now we have weathered this for close to a year and a half already, with her spending most of that time in and out (mostly in) of hospital. With us supporting her treatment from the best in our country, and even having to wrest legal guardianship over her, against her will to force treatment upon her. Yet even after all of that we still cannot  make her do school work.

So I just felt that it wasn't right to let preraph's claims stand, when things are not as black and white as that.

Oh and thanks to you and @chillii

Edited May 17, 2020 by 5x5

[CaliforniaGirl]

28 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I was just challenging the idea that preraph can tell how many bad parents are out there, based upon school attendance etc. Since on the surface our youngest child is refusing to do schoolwork (and has runaway on more than one occasion), so given that perspective, my wife and I can be lumped in with the great mass that preraph disparages.

Yet such statistics don't tell the whole story.

Our eldest (who lives at home with us) is a 20 year old full time university student who achieved state honours for his Higher School Certificate results, which saw him receive first round offers from multiple national top ten universities. He is also reasonably well adjusted, fit, healthy, happy, diligent, hard working, and has a steady girlfriend as well. So we seem to have raised him well to some degree.

While my wife and I are fortunate in being wealthy enough to afford a comfortable lifestyle, and have been able to provide access to plentiful opportunities for our children to avail themselves.

Likewise although I finished High School at Year 11 instead of year 12 to join the Army and have not been to university. I have multiple qualifications in Infantry operations, personnel management and intelligence operations. While my wife has multiple tertiary qualifications including a BASc degree, and is still doing more studies as part of and to further her government management career. So we both value education, discipline and a great work ethic.

Yet despite that our beautiful, highly gifted and talented (in sport, music writing and visual art) daughter, who used to be a happy A-B student. Is afflicted with anorexia-nervous which may take her life. Combined with high anxiety and cutting herself terribly with blades as well. Plus having to deal with violence from her as wel because of anorexia, of which it isn't nice calling the Police on your own child. While this year she has runaway from home to get away from her treatment (fortunately found by Police),  on top of her issues with school.

Now we have weathered this for close to a year and a half already, with her spending most of that time in and out (mostly in) of hospital. With us supporting her treatment from the best in our country, and even having to wrest legal guardianship over her, against her will to force treatment upon her. Yet even after all of that we still cannot  make her do school work.

So I just felt that it wasn't right to let preraph's claims stand, when things are not as black and white as that.

Oh and thanks to you and @chillii

I understand. I actually really do, I have one child who battles a specific mental illness and the others are happy and well-adjusted, highly self-motivated etc. - one of whom has special needs but that doesn't stop him. I have had been basically called a terrible parent regarding the oldest, and an "amazing," " gifted," "insightful," " "creative," you name it parent regarding the others...I'm none of these...I'm just a parent with three really different children, trying so hard to raise them all to be happy and productive. But...what's the evidence for either me being an at best "lax..."/"permissive. .." /"lacking in boundaries" mother (with "Jesus...why don't you smack that kid with a belt?" shooting from the eyeballs) and being an " amazing!!!!!!!!!OMG!!!!!!!!! " mother? The evidence for these irreconcilable superlatives is...my children, or course... 🤔

People judge. In my case they go crazy over the top both ways. It's a bit nuts.

I don't know why I can't get this last part to post. I'll try one more time. Then reason I posted my comment above is that I had no idea you were making a point. I thought you were legitimately asking or were just feeling angry at the comment and I sensed a skewering coming. 

Edited May 17, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl

[5x5]

@CaliforniaGirl your right it does come down to the kids themselves in terms of their behaviour, and it can be very stark the differences inherent in all of them despite being from the same parents and raised by the same parents. Which is why I thought it was wrong to besmirch a collective population in that instance. And you senses we're on target in it being more a skewering.

[schlumpy]

She did it again this morning. She smirked and showed me who had the high score on my the new hand-held Yahtzee game. 

I got that game my own amusement not for her to spank me with it.

 

But it's awfully good to hear her laugh and smile even if it is a smirk.

[amaysngrace]

My guy is being all paranoid now since my daughter’s test came back positive yesterday.  

I don’t get it.  He knew she worked there, had covid patients, worked with covid nurses yet still had no problem eating dinner with us just this week where he sat right next to her and now because the test came back positive he’s skittish all of a sudden?? 

She was pissed he was in our house and ate with us and he knew that too but now I guess a positive test changes everything? 

What did he expect??

 

[schlumpy]

Can you imagine how much money psychologists are going to make in the future treating the mental illnesses caused by this pandemic?

I'm still waiting for the first T-shirt. "I survived the great pandemic of 2020"

 

[Art_Critic]

12 minutes ago, amaysngrace said:

My guy is being all paranoid now since my daughter’s test came back positive yesterday.  

I don’t get it.  He knew she worked there, had covid patients, worked with covid nurses yet still had no problem eating dinner with us just this week where he sat right next to her and now because the test came back positive he’s skittish all of a sudden?? 

She was pissed he was in our house and ate with us and he knew that too but now I guess a positive test changes everything? 

What did he expect??

 

It does mean he now has to self isolate since he has been in contact with a covid19 positive person and if he has medically fragile people or the elderly in his life he needs to stay away from them in order to protect them.

So his life did just change.. at lease for 14 days.. does he work ? because now he can't work unless it's from home.

Take care you yourself Amaysngrace.. this whole covid thing can be nuts on the mind..

 

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Art_Critic

[amaysngrace]

13 minutes ago, Art_Critic said:

So his life did just change.. at lease for 14 days.. does he work ? because now he can't work unless it's from home.

Yes he works but he’ll still go in I’m sure.  They depend on him and he needs to be hands on to do the job.

My son’s boss was busting on my son, saying my son’s got the covid now.  My son will be going in to work this week if he wants to, his boss doesn’t care.  

My son isn’t getting the test.  He sees no reason to know or not.  This thing has been in my house for a while I’m sure and any one of us could have brought it in.  I had my first symptoms in March, same time as my daughter although our symptoms were different.  

Anyway I’m set to get both tests tomorrow, the covid and the antibody, not sure if I’ll follow through with it or not but I have another day to decide.

Having them swab my brain through my nostril while they count to 15 and being quarantined for two weeks doesn’t sound all that appealing. 

[Art_Critic]

12 minutes ago, amaysngrace said:

 

Having them swab my brain through my nostril while they count to 15 and being quarantined for two weeks doesn’t sound all that appealing. 

We all have had to make tough decisions in all this.. hopefully he won't bring it home to someone who it impacts in a negative manner.

Someone in my family had the stick up the nose a week or so ago as they had a medical condition and the symptoms overlapped with covid-19, it was negative and they got the more accurate test that takes days for the results but said it hurts like crazy.. and on the second nostril it hurts only because you know what's coming after having the first nostril done.

 

 

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Art_Critic

[amaysngrace]

2 minutes ago, Art_Critic said:

We all have had to make tough decisions in all this.. hopefully he won't bring it home to someone who it impact in a negative manner.

My BFs daughter is pregnant so that’s his worry.  He has an older dad but he doesn’t see him much so his daughter’s his concern.  

But as for my family, we’ve been spreading this thing around for a while as well as everybody else.  It’s bad in my state.  

We wear our masks, we wash our hands and carry sanitizer at all times, i Lysol like a maniac.  

I’m not really sure what else we’re suppose to do.  

Yesterday the nurse my daughter spoke to was shocked to learn my daughter was asymptomatic since march.  There’s a high viral load on her hospital unit right now, so much so that the health dept had to step in and make restrictions.  

This whole thing is one gigantic pain in my ass. 

[amaysngrace]

Oh, and last night I was talking to my friend who was telling me about a doctor who was administering covid tests but they’ve taken the video down now.

Anyway, the gist of it was the doctor tested a pig and the pig tested positive.  Then he tested a peach and that tested positive too.

So there’s that...

[preraph]

10 hours ago, 5x5 said:

So given you crystal ball, are my wife and I bad parents? Since our 16 year old daughter hasn't done any school work  (since she doesn't want to),  at all this year and hardly any most of last year.

At the end of the day, there is only so much we can do to encourage her to do any schoolwork at all.

Yes I'd say you have dropped the ball. She's sixteen and you are still responsible for her. If you can't get her to stay in school then you need to get your family into family therapy to find out what has gone wrong and why it's dysfunctioning. It's never just one person. It's usually the whole dynamic. 

Edited May 17, 2020 by preraph