Mistake to ask for additional pics before meeting someone when online dating?

[basil67]

I'd never ask for more photos.  A guy being well built or particularly handsome would be neither here nor there for me choosing someone to date.  Life happens and people can change their lifestyles.   He might be well built now, but it doesn't mean he always will be - so it's important that the foundation of the relationship is emotional connection.

FWIW, I don't think it's 'inappropriate' for a guy to ask for more photos.  He can ask for whatever he wants, but just needs to take the risk that it will put her off.  

(edit - sorry, that question wasn't aimed at me!)

Edited May 7, 2020 by basil67

[basil67]

50 minutes ago, thefooloftheyear said:

True....

But I don't know any guys that actually "doctor" their pictures...Photoshop, filters, erasing of facial; lines, etc...I don't think most mature guys would even know how to do it...

While I do have a few Photoshop skills, I've only got one other friend (male) who can use the program.  He's a wannabe photographer.   I mostly "doctor" colour casts and unwanted objects.  And I always correct levels before going to print.    I've played with doctoring weight and face just so that I can learn the skills, but it's just for fun and none of them get saved. 

Perhaps the difference is where I live.  Pretty much everyone in my circle is very down to earth.

[CaliforniaGirl]

29 minutes ago, thefooloftheyear said:

Thanks for the update,  and I agree with your commentary/evaluation, but my response is more geared towards just average people posting online photos...wasn't referring to the OP's story...

But you did bring up a point, and bear in mind this is coming from someone that knows nothing of OLD, except what guys I know tell me...

If you(or use any random women dating) had made a connection or whatever it's called with a guy on OLD, and he had a photo of himself which showed that he was good looking, well built, etc... would that then change the dynamic of whether or not it would be appropriate for him to ask for photos of full body(assuming there wasn't any on her profile or at least not any that a guy could get a clear picture of what she looked like?)

Or I am assuming that would still be inappropriate?

TFY

No. Still creepy and strange after a certain point. I was just making the point that the OP probably isn't Chris Pratt himself, and the prospective date is supposed to accept him anyway, but if *she* doesn't pass his physical looks requirements she's not worth a macchiato.

BTW, I'm not doing OLD now either. I did it very briefly 20 years ago and that was all I needed. But people post aplenty about it, and they still complain about the same stuff (and act in the same ways) as those dark ages of OLD.

Edited May 7, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl
Damn you kindllllllllle (voice fades)

[chillii]

On 4/12/2020 at 10:53 AM, poppyfields said:

max, I 100% agree with you about that! 

I guess what I'm wondering is, why aren't one good head shot and one good body shot enough?   That was my issue when guys asked for more pics.

Like what the hell do you want, nudes?  My guess is YES, that's exactly what they wanted!  A few even very boldly asked for them and many also suggested sex prior to first meet.  In talking with my friends, they experienced same.  

Some guys sent unsolicited d*** pics -- immediate delete! 

So yeah many women, even very beautiful women, are REAL sensitive when a guy starts asking for more pics, when they've already posted a few on their profile. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thing is yeah 1 recent face and body shot is fine,back when l was on one l was very happy with that if we got along sure go meet, because you'd probably be amazed at how rare that was on mine. More's even better it's a date site on a computer all you have to go on are pics and what they've written, so why not unless they've got something to hide. The women even said that on their profiles about men that don't have good pics or no pics , hiding something. Most of them even said they won't answer emails without a clear pic.

Probably at least 60% on mine had 10 head shots no body shots, or 1 or 2 crap pics and then pets , or 1 pic and then 5 more of their fav quotes , or some other garbage , it was mind boggling, just seemed insane to me.  But then thank God you'd find others that were fair and smart enough to have a few good pics. My woman just had the one pic actually but it was great it was just one clear full pic in jeans no bs or excuses , like this is me , done . She's no idiot she knew damn well you'd wanna see her properly and she'd wanna see him properly . You know l really dunno wth all the bs and dramas about if she's serious and wants to meet someone worthwhile and real then she's gotta be real and no bs herself. Honestly can not for the life of me understand what's so illogical about that.

 

 

 

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

3 minutes ago, chillii said:

 

 

Thing is yeah 1 recent face and body shot is fine,back when l was on one l was very happy with that if we got along sure go meet, because you'd probably be amazed at how rare that was on mine. More's even better it's a date site on a computer all you have to go on are pics and what they've written, so why not unless they've got something to hide. The women even said that on their profiles about men that don't have good pics or no pics , hiding something. Most of them even said they won't answer emails without a clear pic.

Probably at least 60% on mine had 10 head shots no body shots, or 1 or 2 crap pics and then pets , or 1 pic and then 5 more of their fav quotes , or some other garbage , it was mind boggling, just seemed insane to me.  But then thank God you'd find others that were fair and smart enough to have a few good pics. My woman just had the one pic actually but it was great it was just one clear full pic in jeans no bs or excuses , like this is me , done . She's no idiot she knew damn well you'd wanna see her properly and she'd wanna see him properly . You know l really dunno wth all the bs and dramas about if she's serious and wants to meet someone worthwhile and real then she's gotta be real and no bs herself. Honestly can not for the life of me understand what's so illogical about that.

 

 

 

 

Because the guy asking for more pics, then more (as stated in the OP), and just the general climate of OLD, is like being a horse brought forward onto the platform and any old stranger being able to demand to see the teeth. No clear pics is strange, yes. Pass. But as far as what's the big deal asking for more pics and more, face now, okay, now let's see the body the way the requester approves of seeing it...it's like the guy is on eBay and hitting Ask Seller and going "Can you turn the item around and give me shots of all sides?" Eew...

I by no means speak for all women. But I know I speak for a few...I see these complaints and more. I'd pass on the OP's demands and move on to the next guy; there are a lot of options for women. Equally, he can pass on women refusing to send that third round of pics. Move along to somebody who will.

[chillii]

Yeah fair enough if she has a couple of decent pics as l said a few times that's all you need. l had women ask me for more pics too , big deal l was on a date site but on the other hand in the way your saying yeah sure l get that.

Tbh though, there was a real pattern on my site back when,  the best most grounded women on it that really sounded like they had their head together and were just honestly looking for a real relationship, mr right , there was zero bs. They usually had a few good pics no matter what they looked like , sensible in their writing, and no man hate , no insane lists , just together , you spotted it a mile off.  The other thing is yeah , they might on the surface have plenty of options but just read around LS at all the frustrated women getting no where on date sites and had enough. Guys can meet plenty of women too but that something real or special, nother story . My gf was well above most on mine and just a quality lady looking for something real but she'd had 2 yrs of just total bs and just about to give up herself, heard it form every woman l met . End of the day it's not easy for anyone and a long shot meeting that someone , no matter how careful, honest, selective, it's not very likely but still well worth a go imo, was for us. l get it is hard for women sorting out real guys but believe me guys get all kinds of crap too just read the threads, and no real pics seems one of the most common complaints.

Edited May 7, 2020 by chillii

[SumGuy]

14 hours ago, max3732 said:

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Again, I don't think men hide what they look like as often as women. Where did you get the idea they "frequently hide it"? 

Unless you have taken the time to look at men's profiles how can you have any kind of informed opinion about this?

I've heard from women the same things, men hide height, hair loss, even weight and kids and relationship status.  How frequent it is don't really know, or how frequent it is compared to women.  I've found for the women I am interested in it is very rare they hide anything, less than 10% easily.   I suspect it is not common but when men do hide things those are the things they apparently are most likely to hide. 

That is a whole different kettle of fish than the men that then just outright lie and manipulate, or condescend, or get all stalkery.   As much as being cat-fished and strung along and ignored hurts for a man, women I believe have a much more BS to put up with in OLD, so they are more alert to anything that hints you are a douche (rightly or wrongly).  The sad thing is I suspect a hot, handsome guy gets much less BS than the average guy, while the hot women likely gets much more BS than the average woman.  

My experience is that women I was interested in who had few photos (where their weight or shape is unclear), that I later met, were in great shape.  The times I was "cat-fished" the women had plenty of photos, they all just must have been old.  I put cat-fished in quotes because I met them not solely based on looks, so I didn;t feel really hoodwinked.

Rightly or wrongly it is about putting yourself in the shoes of the women you seek and how they will respond to a request for more photos based on what little they actually know about you.  It is all about the women you seek.  If the ones you seek are the kind who would be good with sending more pics then ask away, as that is a filter in itself.  If you could see the kind of women you are interested in being put off by such a request (remember they don't know you from Adam) then don't.

It is really that simple.

If you live in an area where it is at least a 30 min drive to meet anyone, that is your choice I figure...it has it's upsides and but a down side for dating.  So for you it is a bigger time commitment to meet someone who may be cat-fishing you,  all I can say is try to find a place to meet her that if she is not for you and you want to leave early there are other things to do.  That is, don't make these hour drives just about meeting her, have a back-up plan for you. 

Personally, if I had interesting conversations with her before meeting, and on meeting go whoa, those photos must have been 10 years and many pounds ago I still talk and try to get to know her, still give her a chance as who knows she could blow my mind.  Not that that has happened, but every time the conversation has been good...so it was not meant to be romantic but I had a fun conversation with another human being...that is worth an hour drive to me.

Then again there are women who look perfectly fine, better than their photos, and who I had good conversations with before meeting, but in person that spark or connection just isn't there.

Moral of my story...if you are selecting based on connection as well as looks then meeting someone who doesn't meet your look criteria is not so bad, you at least have a good conversation.  So even if cat-fished you did not really waste your time.   It is also OK to say you don't feel the connection...and anyone with a bit of experience in OLD and confidence understands lack of connection can have nothing to do with looks.

Edited May 7, 2020 by SumGuy

[max3732]

16 hours ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

Well, you know what? Okay. You're right. About all of it. So just keep doing what you're doing, and here's to your continued success.

Do I detect just a hint of sarcasm in your tone?

I'm not going to keep doing what I'm doing. If she is far away and doesn't have any body shots I'm just going to ignore her. 

16 hours ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

No. Nooooo...(stroking fake beard slowly) That's just what they THINK he'll do.

I say OP goes with what he knows is right. Text prospective date with "Can you send me a full-body pic? Because I'll be damned if I drive all the way to Starbucks and fiver down only to find out I don't like your ass. "

it just might work. You never know.

I don't ask women to see their ass or any other body part. By the way most body pictures only show the front.I just want to see their overall body type. I'm pretty active and know that a relationship with someone that's extremely overweight is not going to work. So if she only has pictures of her face from angles that I can't tell what she looks like.  

[max3732]

15 hours ago, basil67 said:

Are you upfront about your lack of relationship experience?  There's probably a lot of women who would like to know that upfront too.    But whether it be kids or lack of experience, OLD is about marketing and no decent marketer is going highlight the product flaws upfront.  

 

As far as I know that's never been an issue. The only thing I've seen close to that on a dating site it a place to put "longest relationship" and it has a range of time. I haven't seen anything asking how many relationships you've been in or how far you've been able to get around the bases. If that's something a woman wanted to know I'd tell her.

OLD is about marketing and highlighting your strengths, but there are some basic attributes you should show. There just isn't room for everything good and bad about you. 

[CaliforniaGirl]

Just now, max3732 said:

Do I detect just a hint of sarcasm in your tone?

I'm not going to keep doing what I'm doing. If she is far away and doesn't have any body shots I'm just going to ignore her. 

I don't ask women to see their ass or any other body part. By the way most body pictures only show the front.I just want to see their overall body type. I'm pretty active and know that a relationship with someone that's extremely overweight is not going to work. So if she only has pictures of her face from angles that I can't tell what she looks like.  

Okay. Like I said, if you feel you have this well in hand then carry on. You seemed to be asking for opinions but then not exactly want them so...I'm not sure what you're looking for, maybe validation. But you were asking whether requesting more pics was a bad idea. I answered that, and I think I did say you should move along if you're not seeing what you want, v. requesting more pics twice or more as you originally described. When you ask questions on a forum people answer them 😃 In the end you'll do what you want.

[max3732]

12 minutes ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

Okay. Like I said, if you feel you have this well in hand then carry on. You seemed to be asking for opinions but then not exactly want them so...I'm not sure what you're looking for, maybe validation. But you were asking whether requesting more pics was a bad idea. I answered that, and I think I did say you should move along if you're not seeing what you want, v. requesting more pics twice or more as you originally described. When you ask questions on a forum people answer them 😃 In the end you'll do what you want.

I did want people's opinions, but the way you're characterizing what I'm asking and the reasons I'm asking them is completely wrong. I'm not asking someone to pictures of different body parts or from all angles. I just want a basic picture of her body type and face. That's it. So I find it kind of offensive that you're answering the questions as if I'm some kind of creep asking women to twirl around in front of me as I'm ogling and judging them. The last woman I dated was slightly overweight and some of my friends pointed that out to me, but I didn't care since she was active and no extremely overweight.

My original thought was that if the rest of her profile looked good, but that she only had some pictures where I can't really see what she looks like then it would make sense to ask for a picture where I can see her. Isn't that why every dating site has people post pictures?

Some profiles on OLD only have pics of sunsets, quotes, and animals. Or maybe a blurry picture with a giant cartoon filter or something. So if I see someone like that with everything else I'm looking for I used to think it would good to message them and then maybe ask for more pics or plan to meet since I thought maybe they were just shy. Now I now that they probably think of themselves as ugly and/or are trying to hide what they look like and will just move on to the next profile.

I know that I'm not perfect physically and am aware that I've probably been rejected multiple times because of that. What does that have to do with anything? I exercise and eat (sort of) healthy so I'm in reasonably good shape still.

Something else I noticed as far as pictures. When my OLD account got hacked and my profile pics of some guy who looked like a wrestler or body builder who just sent out "hey" to a bunch of women my phone was buzzing non-stop with messages from women. Everything else was the same on my profile except the name was changed along with the pictures.

Edited May 7, 2020 by max3732

[CaliforniaGirl]

9 minutes ago, max3732 said:

I did want people's opinions, but the way you're characterizing what I'm asking and the reasons I'm asking them is completely wrong. I'm not asking someone to pictures of different body parts or from all angles. I just want a basic picture of her body type and face. That's it. So I find it kind of offensive that you're answering the questions as if I'm some kind of creep asking women to twirl around in front of me as I'm ogling and judging them. The last woman I dated was slightly overweight and some of my friends pointed that out to me, but I didn't care since she was active and no extremely overweight.

My original thought was that if the rest of her profile looked good, but that she only had some pictures where I can't really see what she looks like then it would make sense to ask for a picture where I can see her. Isn't that why every dating site has people post pictures?

Some profiles on OLD only have pics of sunsets, quotes, and animals. Or maybe a blurry picture with a giant cartoon filter or something. So if I see someone like that with everything else I'm looking for I used to think it would good to message them and then maybe ask for more pics or plan to meet since I thought maybe they were just shy. Now I now that they probably think of themselves as ugly and/or are trying to hide what they look like and will just move on to the next profile.

I know that I'm not perfect physically and am aware that I've probably been rejected multiple times because of that. What does that have to do with anything? I exercise and eat (sort of) healthy so I'm in reasonably good shape still.

Something else I noticed as far as pictures. When my OLD account got hacked and my profile pics of some guy who looked like a wrestler or body builder who just sent out "hey" to a bunch of women my phone was buzzing non-stop with messages from women. Everything else was the same on my profile except the name was changed along with the pictures.

^ Okay...we may be misunderstanding one another. I was being kind of tongue-in-cheek but was trying to show you what *she* may be thinking by the multiple requests, how *she* might see this, not that you're actually doing (i.e. I don't actually think you're on some mission to collect pics from all angles/all parts of women or anything).

[basil67]

3 hours ago, max3732 said:

I'm not asking someone to pictures of different body parts or from all angles. I just want a basic picture of her body type and face. That's it........The last woman I dated was slightly overweight and some of my friends pointed that out to me

You can't always get what you want - The Rolling Stones.   Fact is, women put on their profile what they want to put on their profile.  If you're not happy with their profile, move to the next profile.   All this complaining achieves nothing.

Oh, and your mates are asshats for pointing out that a previous date of yours was slightly overweight.  Who do they think they are, commenting on the weight of your date?

[max3732]

40 minutes ago, basil67 said:

You can't always get what you want - The Rolling Stones.   Fact is, women put on their profile what they want to put on their profile.  If you're not happy with their profile, move to the next profile.   All this complaining achieves nothing.

Oh, and your mates are asshats for pointing out that a previous date of yours was slightly overweight.  Who do they think they are, commenting on the weight of your date?

Even after all this discussion it still seems strange to me to put up a dating profile without a pic showing your basic body type. Then again a lot don't fill out anything in the bio and leave a lot of blank spaces. I filled out everything in mine.

I won't hold my friends comments against them. After I'd gone out with her a few times they asked to see her and when I showed them the picture I told them I thought she was really pretty. That's when they commented that she's got a few extra pounds on her. Like I said before I really don't care about a few extra pounds. I also don't think they meant to be mean. They know that I think for myself and don't let what other people think about how someone looks bother me.

[miranda561]

On 3/28/2020 at 10:53 PM, max3732 said:

Is it wrong to ask for additional pictures if the ones on the OLD site don't show the whole body. This one match only had pics from the side and I asked for pics of her face and she sent me some that were like from the neck up. She looked really cute and we kept texting, then we did a call and she called me back and we talked for a while and she said she wanted to talk again.

Then I asked if she had any pics where I could see the rest of her since the other ones were basically headshots and then she unmatched me on the app. I just sent her another text on something unrelated and I don't know if I'm blocked there as well. 

She was pretty far away and seemed a bit unstable despite having some common interests so I don't think it would have gone anywhere, but it still hurts to have someone block me. In the future is that something I should avoid asking?

The other match I had a phone conversation with also seemed a bit taken back that I asked for additional photos. It's not like I'm asking her for pics wearing a bikini or anything. I just want to know what she looks like and is a real person

As a person who was pretty much asked the same thing, It can be taken offensively. 

This one guy asked me already saw two pics and asked for an additional picture showing my body, which just annoyed me. And after that i didnt bother to engage with him. Especially since i didnt ask for picture after picture from him, i didnt  expect him to either. Just came across as shallow. 

 

[basil67]

2 minutes ago, max3732 said:

Even after all this discussion it still seems strange to me to put up a dating profile without a pic showing your basic body type. Then again a lot don't fill out anything in the bio and leave a lot of blank spaces. I filled out everything in mine.

I won't hold my friends comments against them. After I'd gone out with her a few times they asked to see her and when I showed them the picture I told them I thought she was really pretty. That's when they commented that she's got a few extra pounds on her. Like I said before I really don't care about a few extra pounds. I also don't think they meant to be mean. They know that I think for myself and don't let what other people think about how someone looks bother me.

Their choices may seem strange to you, but it's their choice and they have their reasons and complaining about it won't change it.   One of the best things I've learned when dealing with people is to take the "should" out of my expectations of them.   People do what they do for whatever reasons.  We may not understand their reasons for doing whatever, so it's easier to go with the flow.  If we don't like what they do, we just move on.

I'm glad your mates didn't weren't actually being mean.  I just got shocked. 

[CaliforniaGirl]

4 hours ago, max3732 said:

 

Something else I noticed as far as pictures. When my OLD account got hacked and my profile pics of some guy who looked like a wrestler or body builder who just sent out "hey" to a bunch of women my phone was buzzing non-stop with messages from women. Everything else was the same on my profile except the name was changed along with the pictures.

Okay, so...TBH, this isn't that much of a surprise. I'm sure I'd get a few bites of I went on OLD right now but if I posted pics of some 20-year-old Instagram model I know I'd literally be flooded. Many women look for much more than what's on the outside but then again many will pay extra-extra attention to that super-hot guy. over-the-top gorgeous people do get more attention as a general thing, there have been plenty of studies on this, as if we needed any. 😅 

Women can be shallow too. We can be physical. We can be NSA, just give me a bod I can worship horny.

[miranda561]

On 4/12/2020 at 8:14 PM, max3732 said:

How? I don't find women in real life. All my friends are married and I only have a few female friends and they're married or in a relationship. No matter what I try doing all I meet or guys or older married women.

For example, while I've been stuck at home I was looking at some board games that I haven't played in a while and wish I had someone to play them with. I noticed there's a board game meetup group in my area and guess what? There's 1 attractive woman in the pictures and she's married to one of the guys in the group. The rest are all guys. No matter what I try in real life it's the same story.

I even looked at cooking classes and it's all older, married women. I've posted about this before. Women in their 20's and 30's that are single are nowhere to be found.

Im in that age group and single. There are going to be single females around, you can't just give up and say there aren't any!!!

Join the gym go to classes, or join social groups who meet up and do activities together? Get some new hobbies. There  are so many different  ways to meet people.

 

 Or at the very least try to update your online  dating strategies 😂. Be more careful what you say to women online and be respectful ( strangers or not). Just have a friendly approach and you'll be fine. I also have joined online apps and there is no shortage of people. 

[thefooloftheyear]

15 hours ago, miranda561 said:

As a person who was pretty much asked the same thing, It can be taken offensively. 

This one guy asked me already saw two pics and asked for an additional picture showing my body, which just annoyed me. And after that i didnt bother to engage with him. Especially since i didnt ask for picture after picture from him, i didnt  expect him to either. Just came across as shallow. 

 

Is it really a tragedy to ask to see a woman's body before you potentially meet them??

I have no dog in this fight, and completely respect your right to your feelings, but I can't really wrap my head around this...If someone asked for a picture of me in my BVD's I'd have no issue...I guess the part of it that is difficult for me to comprehend, is that it's not something that can be kept under wraps forever...I mean, heck, if you connect with someone they are going to eventually see everything, no?  

I know nothing of OLD, but to me, I would think it's best to just lay it all out there....You see women all the time saying that a guy should be "x" height, and that's fine,. but it's somehow a mortal sin to ask a woman's weight, dress size, or even to see a picture of her entire body....The craziest part about even this is that women can and often do wear clothes and undergarments that deliberately conceal faults...So even a full body pic doesn't mean you are seeing what is really there...

I dunno......Not complaining or anything, just trying to understand the logic...Some guys may care and some guys may not, but I have no idea why that would "annoy" someone if someone asks to see as most of someone as they can before they meet....It just seems logical to me, but again, I dunno...

TFY

[basil67]

24 minutes ago, thefooloftheyear said:

.You see women all the time saying that a guy should be "x" height, and that's fine,. but it's somehow a mortal sin to ask a woman's weight, dress size, or even to see a picture of her entire body....

But we women are not all the same.  I am taller than my husband, have been the same height as a number of boyfriends and have happily dated a guy who was a number of inches shorter than me.  I once knew a guy who had a facial abnormality who I would have dated if I was single.  If a woman doesn’t judge men by appearance, why should she be expected to share extra photos just to reassure a guy because of how other women behave? 

[elaine567]

Women in general are repulsed by guys bringing sex too early into the conversation.
A guy asking for extra pics and full body shots is bringing sex too early into the equation.
He is not asking for a pic of her in some Burkha type garment, he is hoping for a pic that shows the size and shape of her boobs and butt.
That makes it a sexual request and for a lot of women that is a big turn off.
She wants a guy who likes her for who she is, not a guy who wants to judge her on the size of her boobs... 

 

[miranda561]

1 hour ago, thefooloftheyear said:

Is it really a tragedy to ask to see a woman's body before you potentially meet them??

I have no dog in this fight, and completely respect your right to your feelings, but I can't really wrap my head around this...If someone asked for a picture of me in my BVD's I'd have no issue...I guess the part of it that is difficult for me to comprehend, is that it's not something that can be kept under wraps forever...I mean, heck, if you connect with someone they are going to eventually see everything, no?  

I know nothing of OLD, but to me, I would think it's best to just lay it all out there....You see women all the time saying that a guy should be "x" height, and that's fine,. but it's somehow a mortal sin to ask a woman's weight, dress size, or even to see a picture of her entire body....The craziest part about even this is that women can and often do wear clothes and undergarments that deliberately conceal faults...So even a full body pic doesn't mean you are seeing what is really there...

I dunno......Not complaining or anything, just trying to understand the logic...Some guys may care and some guys may not, but I have no idea why that would "annoy" someone if someone asks to see as most of someone as they can before they meet....It just seems logical to me, but again, I dunno...

TFY

Don't  get me wrong if id asked this guy for a full body picture, height, abs the lot then I'd be fine with it. If he asked the same back. Since he was a shallow individual anyway, he sent me a video/ and multiple  shots of himself without me even asking. 

I already had said no to him in meeting, because my interest was pretty low and i said we were not compatible. He was the one then absolutely dying to meet, so when i finally agreed he then said ok But before we do, i want a full body pic. So then all the reservations i had about him being an invidiual with any depth/substance, in my view became significant then. At that point i just tried to fade out on him. Not that itnworked he kept bugging me even after. 

Bottom line is its about principles and respect and your approach towards women you have a high level of interest in. And i actually go to the gym regularly and have a great body. So i wasnt even trying to hide anything. So he missed out. 

Overall the impression of men like that, is they think they are gods gift to women and cannot possibly see someone without assessing their body and rating it first. No thanks. Im good. In my opinion a lot of women would fancy him on first impressions but to me he looked pretty average. 

Edited May 8, 2020 by miranda561

[thefooloftheyear]

5 minutes ago, elaine567 said:

A guy asking for extra pics and full body shots is bringing sex too early into the equation.
He is not asking for a pic of her in some Burkha type garment, he is hoping for a pic that shows the size and shape of her boobs and butt.
That makes it a sexual request and for a lot of women that is a big turn off.
She wants a guy who likes her for who she is, not a guy who wants to judge her on the size of her boobs... 

 

While I certainly don't train and live right for this purpose, I have often received compliments from women on my physique/arms/shoulders/butt/etc......even from little old ladies....tons of times...(ive been around a while).

To think of all that sex I have missed out on.!!!😂

But as to the bolded....., part of who we all are is what we look like...as a whole person...not a just potentially photoshopped head shot....(which according to a lot of guys I know who used OLD tell me what they are getting to try to work with)....

I don't understand what the deal is...or why politely asking to see an entire person would be considered some kind of sexually driven request..And I am not ashamed of saying that a woman's sexuality is a big factor in her desirability and a major part of her sexuality comes from her body.....Don't blame me for this, blame Our Creator...

TFY

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21 minutes ago, elaine567 said:

Women in general are repulsed by guys bringing sex too early into the conversation.
A guy asking for extra pics and full body shots is bringing sex too early into the equation.
He is not asking for a pic of her in some Burkha type garment, he is hoping for a pic that shows the size and shape of her boobs and butt.
That makes it a sexual request and for a lot of women that is a big turn off.
She wants a guy who likes her for who she is, not a guy who wants to judge her on the size of her boobs... 

 

To me asking for a full body pic is no more a sexual request than asking about height. When I asked to see the full body pic it wasn't too see the size and shape of her boobs and butt. I really don't care about that. What I care about is if she is extremely overweight. That's it. If she only posts pictures of her face from strange angles and puts giant cartoon filters over her I'd be curious if she's hiding something. So if I asked for a face pic without the cartoon overlay I'm not judging her based on her nostrils or pupils or anything. I just want to understand her basic face.

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16 hours ago, miranda561 said:

Im in that age group and single. There are going to be single females around, you can't just give up and say there aren't any!!!

Join the gym go to classes, or join social groups who meet up and do activities together? Get some new hobbies. There  are so many different  ways to meet people.

 

 Or at the very least try to update your online  dating strategies 😂. Be more careful what you say to women online and be respectful ( strangers or not). Just have a friendly approach and you'll be fine. I also have joined online apps and there is no shortage of people. 

Can you offer some suggestions on where to meet women that age and what I can do differently on my dating profile? I'm thinking of not renewing my Match profile. I've already sent out messages to all the women I'm interested in and get a response for like 1/50. I even talked to their "dating expert" who said my profile was fine and so was my 1st message. 

The only thing I can think of in real life once things get back to normal is the board game group.