Azincourt Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Quote You don't half like your generalisations, do you... Not when I'm the one being dumped, no, which is what happens most of the time 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Azincourt said: It's because women in general can't take a younger man seriously. A younger man is fun for a fling, but for a serious relationship the older man is usually the guy she gets with, although I'll never understand what Celine Dion or Shania Twain saw in the men they married, considering they're old enough to be their dad. Social status I guess. I think the 'half your age plus seven' is still largely a rule of thumb when looking at older men. 'Older' for a 21yo woman is different to 'older' for a 35yo woman. As you've said numerous times, you are too old for the young women you desire, so you choose to deceive women in order to get laid. If women really wanted the older man, you would actually be desirable to those young women. Edited April 1, 2020 by basil67 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Foxhall Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 A sex starved young guy in his early 20s who is unable to find a woman or sex, (I am thinking of one or two posters here) perhaps if they targeted older women, hooking up with a sex mad late 30s early 40s woman, fair trade off. Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Spider Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Haha you’re assuming older women would want them, foxall. That is a HUGE assumption, xD 7 Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Foxhall said: A sex starved young guy in his early 20s who is unable to find a woman or sex, (I am thinking of one or two posters here) perhaps if they targeted older women, hooking up with a sex mad late 30s early 40s woman, fair trade off. Ok but most 30-40yo woman just looking for sex., are not looking for unattractive, awkward guys who are not entertaining. They want fun and a good time, usually from a good looking guy who knows what he is doing. They trade a relationship for fun. banter and sex, not for trying to make strained conversation with some "undesirable" guy who doesn't have a clue... 5 Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, Cookiesandough said: Haha you’re assuming older women would want them, foxall. That is a HUGE assumption, xD A BIG ASSUMPTION and you know what happens when you ASSUME......... Cookie you missed a post above that contained a question....just an FYI 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Foxhall Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 well fair enough I suppose, but "an awkward guy" lets face it, is not going to have much of a chance with a young stunner there like Cookies, maybe an older girl though will give them a bit of leeway and show them the ropes, Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 @Foxhall why would an older woman do that? Most of those young guys who can't get laid come with a whole lot of poor social skills, or even worse, have been hanging out on PUA sites. As soon as he spouted some nonsense about how women would do X Y or Z for Brad Pitt but not him, she'd be out the door. Heck, I still can't figure out why men keep citing Hollywood stars in these contexts. Frankly, most of what's written on this very thread by men who generalise about what women want would be a dealbreaker for me no matter what his age. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Foxhall said: well fair enough I suppose, but "an awkward guy" lets face it, is not going to have much of a chance with a young stunner there like Cookies, maybe an older girl though will give them a bit of leeway and show them the ropes, swag, drip you gotta bring something to the table ya know I will say this in reference to Azin....his approach on some of the ladies I KNOW would not be met with such OPEN ARMS....there might be some choice words involved 1 Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Foxhall said: maybe an older girl though will give them a bit of leeway and show them the ropes, Why should she? What does she get out of that? The argument s moot anyway, none of those guys want anything less than a model or a porn queen... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Azincort you have weird taste in men. Adam Sandler makes me positively shutter in repulsion. And Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee were equals, both with money and fame and very good looks. Every woman I knew back then thought he was very good-looking although most of us wouldn't have touched him with a ten-foot pole even if we could because of the unsavory reputation of that band, who were known for their carelessness. Link to post Share on other sites
Foxhall Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Im just thinking purely in sexual terms, a young horny 20 year old guy, an older woman will go after him solely that she knows he will give her the sex she desires,she will probably have to teach him how but once she trains him in, another extreme example you would come across- female teachers targeting teenage lads in their classes for this purpose! Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Foxhall said: another extreme example you would come across- female teachers targeting teenage lads in their classes for this purpose! Ok apart from it being illegal.... I guess these women are not usually choosing the awkward, undesirable teenage lads... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Is this a fantasy of yours? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Azincourt said: Women who are part of the baby boomer generation, yes. They take better care of themselves than the men do. I've met a lot of my dad's friends, and the men do look a lot older than their wives, but that's because back then it was manly to smoke 5 packs of cigarettes in 5 minutes, and men spent all day outside without any concern for sunscreen, if it existed that long ago. Men who belong to my generation take care of their hair, skin, and hair a lot more than the men who sired us. I wasn't talking about your generation. I was talking about my 30yr HS reunion. Who, for the record, are Gen X not Boomers Try and keep up! Edited April 1, 2020 by basil67 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Foxhall Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, elaine567 said: Is this a fantasy of yours? I dont think so- Ive always preferred younger women,☺️ I suppose my only regret, nowadays I can find women easily enough but when I was at the peak of my sexual prowess (early 20s) " I could not get a dog to bark at me" as the saying goes. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilie Jolie Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Azincourt said: Not when I'm the one being dumped, no, which is what happens most of the time 🤣 Sorry, I'm not familiar with your story. Are older women not taking you seriously, or are younger ones not interested because you're poor? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Foxhall said: Im just thinking purely in sexual terms, a young horny 20 year old guy, an older woman will go after him solely that she knows he will give her the sex she desires,she will probably have to teach him how but once she trains him in, See, this thought leaves me cold. I need more than sex to be interested. Edited April 2, 2020 by basil67 Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, simpycurious said: swag, drip you gotta bring something to the table ya know I will say this in reference to Azin....his approach on some of the ladies I KNOW would not be met with such OPEN ARMS....there might be some choice words involved Azin, I am confused just like Emilie seems to be Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, simpycurious said: A BIG ASSUMPTION and you know what happens when you ASSUME......... Cookie you missed a post above that contained a question....just an FYI Fox, I think the assumption about what the older women want would not be widespread 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ellener Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 hours ago, greymatter said: Men often have a shorter life span than women and being a caretaker to an older man is not my wish. I've felt like that for years, yet the man I've met now it wouldn't bother me at all...'love changes everything'? Link to post Share on other sites
scooby-philly Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I think this question, at its very core, points to a multitude of answers that only the individual(s) involved in a specific scenario/relationship could answer. You can find the the basics of age dating and the dynamics of either (older man / younger woman or older woman / younger man) and the rationale behind them online with plenty of pros/cons on both sides of the fence. I believe the half your age +7 rule is good for whoever the older partner is. I'm 38 - so that means I shouldn't date anyone younger that 26. And I've just come out of a relationship with someone younger than that and boy - let me tell you - I ain't looking for anything younger than 28 or 30. And I've not exclusively dated younger in my life - in fact, the other 2 ltrs I've had were with women 1.5-3 years older than me (so kinda same age). The problem with age gaps is as many on here said - the differences in experience and also "where you're at in life". Sure, if you're married to someone famous or rich and there's a 30 year age gap, okay - they die you will have money and you will probably be able to find someone because of it. But you don't see too many 40 yr old women falling for 70 year old men unless they're wealthy. But to go back to your original question/post OP....the issue of But I hear complaints from women that they aren't attracted to younger guys. I also Have younger male friends who tell me they have difficulty dating, Ladies, what is the difference in the 2 age groups? You're the ones who decide what you like. For women - if they want someone "hot" to have fun with they will look for good looking guys in their late 20s to early/mid 30s (depending on the woman's age) because they can be hot and also sexually experienced (unless they have a fantasy of helping someone "learn"). And younger guys don't have the romantic, financial, life experience "capital" like older men do so from a woman's perspective, they're not as "attractive" in the non-sexual categories. From a young man's perspective, they are challenged even more today than ever. We've either gotten rid of, stopped paying as well, or verbally/culturally/socially diminished a lot of trades that younger men used to get into and do. We've also made the age gap thing less of an issue so more and more younger women are okay with dating someone 5-15 years older. And the technology we have makes it easy to meetup with strangers. I mean think about it - the basics of economics says with more options we often get overwhelmed and can't chose and it's easier today to find someone 100 miles away than it was 30 years ago to find someone 5 miles away. And we don't teach anyone really (or haven't in the history of our culture) - of what good dating, healthy relationships, true love means. Think back to our grandparents or great grandparents. If you were 22 in 1950 you probably married someone who either 1. You went to school with 2. you went to church with 3. you worked with 4. you grew up near 5. knew someone in your family or close circle of friends. Those 5 options, I would bet, represented 80, 90% of all marriages. And think about how little they understood and also how little they incorporated psychology into relationships. I know women in their 80s/90s who had abusive husbands - it was acceptable at that time for a man to get "physical" with his wife. Like the police wanted to brush it under the rug until it got to a point where she'd either divorce him or he'd put her in the hospital - outside of that - it got ignored unless there was someone really on the "cutting edge" who responded to the call. Nowadays you can meet someone in an instant who doesn't fall into any of those 5 categories and our language, our customs, our expectations, and our norms/values are still trying to catch up. And remember - women date/have sex with who they want; men with who they can but men marry who they want and women marry who they can. Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 17 hours ago, Ellener said: I've felt like that for years, yet the man I've met now it wouldn't bother me at all...'love changes everything'? but isn't LOVE the key to most things (relationship wise) in the end that is Link to post Share on other sites
Azincourt Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 22 hours ago, Emilie Jolie said: Sorry, I'm not familiar with your story. Are older women not taking you seriously, or are younger ones not interested because you're poor? Younger women will have a fling with me behind their boyfriend's back, same for married women, but considering how we're in different life stages, I either get bored with them, or they get bored with me. I've also been dumped by women my age when I was young and by younger women now that I'm in my 30s for rich, old men. I ain't talking about 60 year olds Brad Pitts. Women my own age and older are usually dating to find a husband and to have kids. Or they've already had their starter marriage, got their first divorce, and have kids. I have no interest in having biological children, adopting children, or in raising someone else's children. I also like living alone, and there's many women who want something serious even if it doesn't lead to marriage. Divorce rate is about 70% over here, so I have more of a chance of getting a date with Selena Gomez than I'd have having a successful marriage, and boy are my chances with Selena Gomez already low as it is. Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Why the frequent references to Hollywood people @Azincourt? Personally, I can't see the appeal. Link to post Share on other sites
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