amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Once we have a way to battle it we’ll be more secure. We’ll feel more in control. That’s how people are. Nobody wants to chance dying just to make money, well most people anyway. Some go to work because they have no choice but to show up to work every day, Some are even getting hazard pay to be there. If your parents are willing to support you through this then why do you feel that you have to go to work? Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Well it's just I am worried I will run out of money eventually if I don't take a job. Plus who says we will be able to battle it? We still haven't even come out with a vaccine to common colds, or HIV, or even a way to beat cancer hardly, so what makes people think that this one will be beatable? Judging by the increased numbers over the weeks, shouldn't we accept that we are just all going to get it, and accept the inevitable, or at least we are going to all get it long before any vaccine is made and approved by the FDA? Edited April 3, 2020 by ironpony Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Most people don’t put themselves in unnecessary risk. Yea sure we all might get it but it doesn’t mean you show throw a keg party. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 You have to weigh it out...what’s worse? Possibly running out of money or possibly causing your grandmother to suffer or even die? Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Well it's just that my parents had no problem with working during the H1N1 crisis or the SARS crisis, or even the regular flus I got over the years when working in public, when my Grandma could have gotten any of those and possible died. So why are they worried about this one particularly? Plus we are avoiding seeing my Grandma anyway out of fear? So if we are avoiding her anyway, does it make a difference if I work or not? Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, ironpony said: They are in their 60s They are at increased risk of having serious complications just by being that old. If they have any other medical problems then the risks increase... Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just respect your parents wishes. If you can’t do that move our. Im not them, I’m sure they have their reasons, maybe it’s a control thing, idk. Point is you live under their roof so while you’re doing that you need to follow their rules. It’s really that simple. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Well I thought perhaps I could appeal to my parents more. I am investing a lot of money into a career goal, which has now been put on hold because of the virus. But if I invest in the goal after, and don't have a job, that makes it a lot harder in case the investment goes sour. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Where is it, in Spain maybe?? that if you get this and need a ventilator you won’t get one if you’re over 60? I know I read that’s happening somewhere in the world. Maybe they read that piece too. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Oh I'm in Canada. Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I don't know abut Spain but I heard they had a cut off for ventilators for the over 60s in Italy. I guess if health services come under pressure it could happen anywhere. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 They don’t have a shortage of medical supplies in Canada? I’m pretty sure they do and I don’t even live there. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, elaine567 said: I don't know abut Spain but I heard they had a cut off for ventilators for the over 60s in Italy. I guess if health services come under pressure it could happen anywhere. Right and like 95% of the people who died there were over 60. Gee I wonder why... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Yeah I think there is a shortage of medical supplies here too. But things like that, is where I don't feel we are going to beat this virus. We are a turtle fighting a gorilla, and I think we just need to accept that, and not let the economy down as a result. If we die we die, but at least we go out fighting die like human beings. Isn't that better, than letting it effect our last days to the point where we cannot do anything, even though we cannot beat it anyway? How do I convince my parents it's better to go out swinging? Edited April 3, 2020 by ironpony Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 You can’t because you don’t go out swinging. You go out suffocating. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Sure, but you might as well go out and do what you want before you die, rather than waiting and not enjoying yourself, or at least doing something good, like a job, no? Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 If you want to work then go find some other place to live. This is incredibly selfish of you here. This is no joke. You would be asking your parents to put their lives on the line for you to make some film about serial rapists...SMH 1 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 That’s fine if you want to live your life that way but they don’t so either suck it up and live by their rules or get a place of your own. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Okay, good point. I will call back and turn down the job. It's just when I do make the movie, after the crisis is over, I am worried about not having much money in the end, and worried that if I don't have a job to go back to, that will make it worse... But if that's best not to take one now, then I won't. And I don't want to be selfish. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 If you truly don’t want to be selfish then think about their future instead of just your own. If you’re only focused on yourself (which I’m sorry to say you seem to be) you are being the very definition of selfish. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Oh well it's just I am worried that I will be out of money if I do not get a job in a few months. I don't mean to be selfish, just worried. Edited April 3, 2020 by ironpony Link to post Share on other sites
BaileyB Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I’m curious, what is the job and what is the risk? Although I do think that you have to respect your parents wishes. It’s their home, it’s their rules. You could very likely put their lives at risk if you go out, so they have every right to ask you to do what every government, employer (whenever possible), media source, politician, and joe blow on the street is telling you to do - stay home! Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) It's a shipping and packaging job. Well I just feel that the government is wrong that staying home is going to make things better cause it keeps spreading and getting worse. Their is no beating it and we are all going to get it later on. So why fight the inevitable. Why remain in denial that we are not going to get it? You can't try to defuse a bomb that's already gone off. Edited April 3, 2020 by ironpony Link to post Share on other sites
Author ironpony Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Or maybe you can I am just being too pessimistic about it, it's just I find it really puzzling how everyone can treat this as such a curse, but then have so much hope that such a curse will just blow over. Link to post Share on other sites
Minneloa Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, ironpony said: It's a shipping and packaging job. Well I just feel that the government is wrong that staying home is going to make things better cause it keeps spreading and getting worse. Their is no beating it and we are all going to get it later on. So why fight the inevitable. Why remain in denial that we are not going to get it? You can't try to defuse a bomb that's already gone off. As I understand it, we’re staying home to “flatten the curve” and to (hopefully) reduce an overwhelming flood on the hospitals, who might otherwise not have enough beds, personnel, or ventilators. In other words, we’re trying to slow the rate of infection over time so that our healthcare systems can better handle the influx of cases. It’s a chance to save lives. Link to post Share on other sites
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