I live with my parents and they don't want me to work until the corona virus is over.

[justwhoiam]

11 hours ago, ironpony said:

Yeah I see but even if it's not fully normal I feel like I will need to get a job again in a few months to survive at least.  Is that being unreasonable?

I was the only one to say you could accept the job, provided you can adopt the correct precautions as I stated previously. The fact that you decided to decline makes me think that you're not willing to make the extra effort needed to concile parents needs and keeping a job.

[ironpony]

Okay thanks, I can move out to get a job then.  However, this isn't just about me.  My parents are eventually going to have go back out too, and cannot live the way they are living for months on end.

Edited April 6, 2020 by ironpony

[Miss Clavel]

my nephew took a job as a teacher, with a contract, in a school in wuhan china.

he's been in his studio apartment for 9 weeks. he has not gone outside his door, not even once.

my sister sent my video of the entire province celebrating the end of strict government imposed quarantine. 

and he might get sick with cv-19 tomorrow. and while  enduring isolation for weeks on end will have done nothing for his health it does wonders for other people and the entire medical universe, in that they were able to  not only get a handle on the treatment but they are able to bury their dead.

i refuse to accept that you can not wait a while to get a job. 

they are your family.

p.s. i suspect that you are trolling us. i can't imagine anyone that is not following the social distancing mandate right now.

here, we can be stopped and asked what our business is and it had better be something essential or they will write you a 1,000. ticket and send your *ss back to your house.

on top of that we have a twelve oclock curfew.

i understand that a job is essential for you and so is your future, you don't want to miss your place at a place you finally found.

please wait.

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by Miss Clavel

[Noproblem]

It's funny how you prefer working over your parents safety and health. They could die and it would be because of you!

If you want to work, then go out and stop depending on them to give you a roof and shelter...

You are old enough to live on your own and be independent!

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by Noproblem

[elaine567]

On 4/6/2020 at 6:33 PM, ironpony said:

  My parents are eventually going to have go back out too, and cannot live the way they are living for months on end.

Yes they can, we are probably all going to have to stay locked down for a long time.
There is no easy quick fix here.
 

[preraph]

Anyone know why death projections are worse in Canada than U.S.?  I just looked at both.  Seems like Canada isn't that crowded of a population.  

[ironpony]

Well this why I think that the virus is going to take us all over and we all will get it.  I don't think we have a chance of beating this thing, yet so many people seem optimistic we will, even with all the deaths.  Am I being too pessimistic or are people being too optimistic?

[K.K.]

20 minutes ago, ironpony said:

Am I being too pessimistic or are people being too optimistic?

Yes, ironpony. Way too pessimistic. 😁 It’s going to go away sooner or later. Without this hope (and hugeeeee probability) we all might as well jump off a bridge or hook up  a hose to an shiny loud exhaust pipe. I mean, come on now! You live in your parent’s house. They said don’t work right now. It’s their rules.There’s no decisions for you to have to make. So just sit on your butt, work on a screenplay, collect the unemployment, (which is your right to have!), drop the guilt already, and wait for better days. 

Your friend, kk 

[ironpony]

But how can people think that it's going to be over sooner and later with all death increasing?  Where is this optimism coming from?

[Ellener]

2 hours ago, ironpony said:

But how can people think that it's going to be over sooner and later with all death increasing?  Where is this optimism coming from?

Dear me, where does optimism come from @ironpony?

It comes from a belief in the human spirit and the survival instinct. For you to be here ( on earth ) today every single one of your lineage had to survive to adulthood ( paraphrased from Bill Bryson )

It comes from the joy of being alive, of living every day. Of loving and being loved.

It comes from the knowledge that humanity faces peril, always has, and still endures.

It comes from the understanding that the same world to different people is both a heaven and a hell ( to paraphrase Priestly ) and choosing to search out the good.

It comes from gratitude, for health, for family, for friends, for happiness. For life.

 

 

 

[ironpony]

But doesn't logic take over though, and you start to way the odds, thinking of the deaths have increased a lot over the weaks, and it just keeps getting bigger, that you will get it eventually?  Doesn't logic take over?

[Ellener]

6 hours ago, ironpony said:

thinking of the deaths have increased a lot over the weaks, and it just keeps getting bigger, that you will get it eventually?  Doesn't logic take over?

Using logic @ironpony this is how a pandemic works, the figures go up as the disease spreads and lots of people gt sick so lots of them die. In the 1957 and 1968 pandemics 0.3 million people died worldwide in each. We are at the height of the infection here in the US which is why the social distancing is so important, to prevent further spread and manage the care of those already sick.

There was a movie someone recommended called Outbreak, if you want to be a film-maker you should learn lots of stuff like this to inform your work.

 

[elaine567]

Video showing how social distancing works

[ironpony]

Quote

Using logic @ironpony this is how a pandemic works, the figures go up as the disease spreads and lots of people gt sick so lots of them die. In the 1957 and 1968 pandemics 0.3 million people died worldwide in each. We are at the height of the infection here in the US which is why the social distancing is so important, to prevent further spread and manage the care of those already sick.

There was a movie someone recommended called Outbreak, if you want to be a film-maker you should learn lots of stuff like this to inform your work.

Yes I've seen Outbreak before, but what are you saying?  Are you saying it's going to get as bad as in that movie, where the military will open fire on anyone who leaves a city?  What do you mean by inform my work?

Edited April 16, 2020 by ironpony

[Ellener]

2 hours ago, ironpony said:

Yes I've seen Outbreak before, but what are you saying?  Are you saying it's going to get as bad as in that movie, where the military will open fire on anyone who leaves a city?  What do you mean by inform my work?

The movie is fiction. No, I doubt it will be like that here, and if you are following the figures then the pandemic is already peaking here. 

By inform your work I mean read around topics, find lots of perspectives, information. I appreciate you are afraid and worried, but use those emotions to write or create.

[ironpony]

Well I guess it's difficult to write, because what is good is writing a story that won't be able to have a chance of selling or doing well, since we are reaching a collapse of civilization with this virus out and anarchy will probably follow in a couple of years?  Can a movie still make money then?

[jspice]

What was your excuse before the virus? 
 

you complained about having a job that was interfering with your making movies. Now you’ve been given the gift of time and you have nothing to do but sit and work on your craft. When this is all over you’re going to complain about something else that’s going to stop your movie making. 
 

I’m sorry but you need to start taking responsibility for yourself so your parents can have a bit of a break. I can’t imagine how stressful it must be for them every day when you don’t even open your own mail. Now you want to jeopardise their health. 
 

Start making a list of everything they do to keep your life running smoothly. Write it down and check it off once you’ve done. The next day do the same.

If you want to work then move out, though I don’t know what work you’d get right now as you’re not essential. 
 

Sh*t or get off the pot. 

[ironpony]

Oh okay, maybe I was looking at it wrong, but I can't really work on the craft since no one wants to make movies now.  The entire industry where I live is shut down, and all the productionsa are cancelled.

Who says I don't open my own mail?  Did I say that at some point?  I am not jeopardizing their health at all.  I am respecting it and not going out.  I just didn't think that staying it would do any good and it will eventually get us all, especially when going out for groceries at some point, when it gets bigger.

Edited April 16, 2020 by ironpony

[jspice]

Yes, you said your parents pay your bills because you don’t open your mail, for whatever reason. 

[ironpony]

Oh I don't remember saying that.  I pay my own bills and open my mail.  Are you sure I didn't say something else, that possibly became misconstrued, or perhaps I wasn't clear enough about?

[Miss Clavel]

On 4/16/2020 at 7:03 AM, Ellener said:

Using logic @ironpony this is how a pandemic works, the figures go up as the disease spreads and lots of people gt sick so lots of them die. In the 1957 and 1968 pandemics 0.3 million people died worldwide in each. We are at the height of the infection here in the US which is why the social distancing is so important, to prevent further spread and manage the care of those already sick.

There was a movie someone recommended called Outbreak, if you want to be a film-maker you should learn lots of stuff like this to inform your work.

 

get the book, uncut, by stephen king. "The Stand".

[ironpony]

Sorry I thought I posted a response to this but the post was never submitted I guess.  Yes I've seen Outbreak, but what does that have to do with this real life pandemic?

Edited April 21, 2020 by ironpony

[contel3]

If your parents are wealthy enough and able to support you, you might find a compromise where you stay inside but they help you financially. If you are actually worried about running out of money, you will probably have to move out.

You are probably young and not worried about your own health. Of course it feels frustrating to have to put your whole life on hold, but right now choosing your career means not seeing your family for an unknown length of time. I guess it's up to you to know what is more important for you.

[Miss Clavel]

On 4/16/2020 at 12:57 AM, ironpony said:

But doesn't logic take over though, and you start to way the odds, thinking of the deaths have increased a lot over the weaks, and it just keeps getting bigger, that you will get it eventually?  Doesn't logic take over?

no. google how many Americans die on a daily basis and what they die from. i'll give you a hint...8,000. mostly from drink and drugs and heart problems. stop focusing on whats outside your control. get some gloves and bleach(don't drink it) and start to do what you can to protect the "at risk" in your life.

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by Miss Clavel

[ironpony]

Oh okay, but are you saying go out and get a job?