Author ZA Dater Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, basil67 said: What makes you say that she wasn’t looking for a relationship? Because she told me as much, she was looking for a friend with benefits type thing. All very enthusiastic then a face pic. Link to post Share on other sites
Weezy1973 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Just a note that women tend to be all about looks when it comes to casual sex, but when it comes to serious relationships, looks become just one of many factors they consider so carries less weight. Men, on the other hand, tend to be the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Weezy1973 said: Just a note that women tend to be all about looks when it comes to casual sex, but when it comes to serious relationships, looks become just one of many factors they consider so carries less weight. Men, on the other hand, tend to be the opposite. So in other words men are so desperate they'll get with anyone..no matter how they look 2 Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Trail Blazer said: Yeah, well most of the dates I went on I was asked, so what's a man to say? 🤷♂️ All of the dates, bar one, were reasonable. Seven of those dates resulted in a second date and three resulted in one relationship, an FWB for three months, two one night stands and finally my current relationship. I can't disagree with you that men have better options. However, I think that for most men, those options are unattainable as, like you've said, you have high standards and I believe you are far from unique in that regard. The nature of OLD causes men to get extremely frustrated. I believe it's a breeding ground for poor behavior. I'm not excusing it at all, but a lot of men lash out when they are constantly rejected. Not necessarily true. I think im looking for some thing which ill probably never find. But i have a lot of friends who in my view have settled..or not found anything better. I think women in general want to settle down quicker than a lot of men. Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 hours ago, 5x5 said: Oh and I think ghosting someone especially someone you have no relationship with, is a perfectly reasonable response (amongst a myriad of options) to a date with someone that sucked. Its just called common courtesy to explain oneself instead of ghosting. Link to post Share on other sites
Weezy1973 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, miranda561 said: So in other words men are so desperate they'll get with anyone..no matter how they look They’ll have casual, meaningless sex with “anyone”. For a relationship they’ll be far pickier. In general of course. Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Weezy1973 said: They’ll have casual, meaningless sex with “anyone”. For a relationship they’ll be far pickier. In general of course. So even with women they dont find attractive. Why is that though. And pickier in terms of what Link to post Share on other sites
Author ZA Dater Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 Just now, miranda561 said: So even with women they dont find attractive. Why is that though. And pickier in terms of what Unfortunately he is right a lot of guys I know will pretty much do that or they will lie and oversell to try and get her to sleep with him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author ZA Dater Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Weezy1973 said: Just a note that women tend to be all about looks when it comes to casual sex, but when it comes to serious relationships, looks become just one of many factors they consider so carries less weight. Men, on the other hand, tend to be the opposite. Oh well so once again I am out of luck lol. Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, ZA Dater said: .... a lot of guys I know will pretty much do that or they will lie and oversell to try and get her to sleep with him. ..and they are in fact many times pushing against open doors, it is a game some will play. She wants sex, he wants sex, he knows that, she knows that, the bantering is just fun before the inevitable... Link to post Share on other sites
simpycurious Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, miranda561 said: So in other words men are so desperate they'll get with anyone..no matter how they look This is NOT TRUE (not me).....unattractive is just that unattractive on a variety of levels and a NO GO........... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Weezy1973 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, miranda561 said: So even with women they dont find attractive. Why is that though. And pickier in terms of what In general, yes, even women they don’t find particularly attractive. Why? Well it’s likely biological / evolutionary. Sperm is cheap. Spreading it into as many women as possible likely paid off (I.e resulted in many offspring) in our evolutionary past. That makes sense if you’re not going to invest in rearing the child. But if you’re investing in the rearing of the child (I.e. being in a committed relationship) it makes sense to be pickier and select for genetic fitness (looks). This is all subconscious of course. And women are the opposite to this because eggs are rare compared to sperm, and pregnancy is expensive as is rearing a child. That is to say a woman will be very picky about looks (genetic fitness) if the sex is just casual, because if they’re not getting support to rear the child, the genetic fitness makes up for it. Again, subconsciously. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author ZA Dater Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, elaine567 said: ..and they are in fact many times pushing against open doors, it is a game some will play. She wants sex, he wants sex, he knows that, she knows that, the bantering is just fun before the inevitable... Lucky guys that's all I can say. I have never had that luck. Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, ZA Dater said: Oh well so once again I am out of luck lol. But an experienced woman looking for a FWB was never going to be happy with a virgin, unless you felt you had the confidence to pull it off without her ever knowing. Did you tell her how inexperienced you are? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, ZA Dater said: Unfortunately he is right a lot of guys I know will pretty much do that or they will lie and oversell to try and get her to sleep with him. But i don't get it. How can you be physical with someone who you don't find appealing looks wise. Its beyond me Like men as a whole Edited May 23, 2020 by miranda561 Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, Weezy1973 said: In general, yes, even women they don’t find particularly attractive. Why? Well it’s likely biological / evolutionary. Sperm is cheap. Spreading it into as many women as possible likely paid off (I.e resulted in many offspring) in our evolutionary past. That makes sense if you’re not going to invest in rearing the child. But if you’re investing in the rearing of the child (I.e. being in a committed relationship) it makes sense to be pickier and select for genetic fitness (looks). This is all subconscious of course. And women are the opposite to this because eggs are rare compared to sperm, and pregnancy is expensive as is rearing a child. That is to say a woman will be very picky about looks (genetic fitness) if the sex is just casual, because if they’re not getting support to rear the child, the genetic fitness makes up for it. Again, subconsciously. If that was all true then no average looking woman would be married right now. 😂. But i have friends/acquaintances who are deemed less attractive than i. Who settled down long ago. Link to post Share on other sites
5x5 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 minute ago, miranda561 said: Its just called common courtesy to explain oneself instead of ghosting. I'm guessing you haven't had people go off their nut at you, or been stalked by people who don't take to kindly to being rejected. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
QuietRiot Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, Weezy1973 said: In general, yes, even women they don’t find particularly attractive. Why? Well it’s likely biological / evolutionary. Sperm is cheap. Spreading it into as many women as possible likely paid off (I.e resulted in many offspring) in our evolutionary past. That makes sense if you’re not going to invest in rearing the child. But if you’re investing in the rearing of the child (I.e. being in a committed relationship) it makes sense to be pickier and select for genetic fitness (looks). This is all subconscious of course. And women are the opposite to this because eggs are rare compared to sperm, and pregnancy is expensive as is rearing a child. That is to say a woman will be very picky about looks (genetic fitness) if the sex is just casual, because if they’re not getting support to rear the child, the genetic fitness makes up for it. Again, subconsciously. Yep, if the right conditions are met, some men will just be satisfied with a hole and nothing more...as bad and crude as that may sound. I recall in the military some butt ugly gal became a princess in the eyes of men at a more remote base in the MIddle East. All the dudes were taking turns with her. Talk about an ego boost for her. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, simpycurious said: This is NOT TRUE (not me).....unattractive is just that unattractive on a variety of levels and a NO GO........... So weeezys statement is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, 5x5 said: I'm guessing you haven't had people go off their nut at you, or been stalked by people who don't take to kindly to being rejected. Ive had a stalker before. Not from OLD. Just someone who saw me once and decided to follow me around for the next two years. Most people take it ok. Obviously there are those exceptions with a few screws loose. Link to post Share on other sites
miranda561 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, QuietRiot said: Yep, if the right conditions are met, some men will just be satisfied with a hole and nothing more...as bad and crude as that may sound. I recall in the military some butt ugly gal became a princess in the eyes of men at a more remote base in the MIddle East. All the dudes were taking turns with her. Talk about an ego boost for her. Ewwww Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, simpycurious said: This is NOT TRUE (not me).....unattractive is just that unattractive on a variety of levels and a NO GO........... You are obviously not that desperate...Some men with no other options, can not afford to be so picky. It is a choice between sex or no sex at all. Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 To tell the truth some women are not' that fussy either... Link to post Share on other sites
Emilie Jolie Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ZA Dater said: Lucky guys that's all I can say. I have never had that luck. Sorry ZA. Her reply was rude and tactless. Have you done something to take you mind off? Link to post Share on other sites
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