Foxhall Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) More of a question for 8-12 months in the future perhaps, but this is something that must be crossing the minds of people, With any vaccine and possibly more so with an accelerated type of vaccine that is likely to be developed for Covid, there carries risks of side effects, One could cite examples of past failed polio and measles vaccines, problems with MS drugs, and perhaps the most famous example of a drug gone wrong was the morning sickness drug thalidomide given to women many decades ago which caused birth defects. In current trials for a covid vaccine, problems are emerging of hepatitis and so on appearing in ferrets. that being said many pharmaceutical vaccines and antibiotics have been very useful to us over the years, It may be the case that all people over 70 and people with underlying medical conditions will have to take the vaccine, as the risk of dying from covid for them will be greater than the vaccine risk, Personally I would prefer to build up immune system defences with herbal medicine remedies and take my chances that I can overcome or hopefully get a mild dose of the virus, at this point anyway, I am thinking I would definitely not take any potential vaccine that emerges in the next 12 months. Would you take it?? Edited May 22, 2020 by Foxhall 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FMW Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 My first thought is that yes, I would take the vaccine. I have flu shots every year, but yes, i understand they have a much longer history to judge. I'll have to weigh the pros and cons at the time the choice is available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
clia Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 No, I would not immediately take the vaccine. I would likely wait and see at least a few years, if not more, and make the decision at a later date. Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Foxhall said: It may be the case that all people over 70 and people with underlying medical conditions will have to take the vaccine, as the risk of dying from covid for them will be greater than the vaccine risk, Vaccine specialist on radio seemed to think that vaccination would be given to key workers on the frontline first and that a vaccine may not be suitable to be given to the old and infirm. Due to likely poor immune response in the old and immuno-compromised, or side effects in sick people unable to cope with them... He seemed to think herd immunity by vaccine for everyone, to reduce the virus to such low levels that the vulnerable could then walk about safely. But we don't even have a vaccine yet... As for me taking the vaccine I feel l won't be the first in line, but I might be... It will depend on how high i feel my risks are of getting this virus at the time. If there was a proven vaccine available tomorrow I probably would be taking it as the virus is still rampaging through the UK... and no-one really can say for certain they will be fine.. But in 6 months, a year, two years... no idea. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 No way. “nothing will benefit health and increase the chance for survival on earth as the evolution to a vegetarian diet” - Albert Einstein 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Ellener Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, FMW said: I'll have to weigh the pros and cons at the time the choice is available. me too. Living in the US I've watched as vaccinations became just another industry within profit-making medicine, last year's 'flu vaccine was 45% effective according to CDC ( 50% effective against influenza B/Victoria viruses and 37% effective against influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 ) but I noticed a lot of my older friends were then going into pharmacies also for recommended shots for pneumonia. There's no nationwide monitoring of the effectiveness of that yet. It's hard to make informed decisions with all the marketing, not to mention a recent trend of distasteful political histrionics regarding the pandemic, but for me personally I agree with keeping healthy in general and trying natural treatments first; which may ultimately be contracting a form of the virus I know if it becomes one of the regular seasonal viruses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 We have learn a great deal in medicine since thalidomide. I usually do not get the flu shot as those viruses usually mutate so much that by the time they reach us the vaccine is off. The latest I read about covid-19 is that it has not mutate like seasonal flu viruses do. Because of that I assume a vaccine would be pretty efficient. My first answer is yes, I would get the vaccine this time. I did not get it for the H1N1 but this time probably yes I'd get it. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Last one I took was Lariam (mefloquine) prophylaxis for malaria and we all know how that worked out. I'll pass, thanks. At my age, something is bound to kill me anyway and I've dodged a fair amount of bullets in life. Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I took quite a few shots before travelling in southeast asia and africa, and generally get the flu shot. I'm seldom sick. Could be luck, personal habits, or whatever, or might have to do with being vaccinated. I did get the pneumo-23 a while back, and that was a miserable experience for about half a day after. On the upside it's supposed to also help with those infections in sinuses, ears, and elsewhere not just lungs if I understood correctly. So that sounds good. Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Slippers Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 No way in hell. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilie Jolie Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 If there was a vaccine against media overdose and mass conspiracy theories, I'd take a double dose. For now, a vaccine seems too far on the horizon for me. I want to be able to see friends and family, and I want a safe, easily accessible and cheap treatment for those who are currently ill. I also would like us to be more careful with our work-life balance and for people to be more considerate of other people's health. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bubbletea Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Nope... if it’s anything like the flu shot which isn’t even effective for me I will pass. I will keep wearing face masks at work like they require for people who don’t get the flu shot. I am used to it now anyway since our work requires everybody to wear a face mask during Covid19. Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes, I would take one. Link to post Share on other sites
mark clemson Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I'll take it once it's been out for several months. I have no issue with vaccines and have never had problems with one. When that very dangerous flu was around several years ago I actually got vaccinated for it 3 time. (Twice that year and then once the next year when they did a combined vaccine that included it.) Now if only these giant green boils would stop growing on my back... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, mark clemson said: I'll take it once it's been out for several months. I have no issue with vaccines and have never had problems with one. When that very dangerous flu was around several years ago I actually got vaccinated for it 3 time. (Twice that year and then once the next year when they did a combined vaccine that included it.) Now if only these giant green boils would stop growing on my back... I hear bathing in a bleach solution cures that and fights COVID-19 (I'm joking people, but Mrs Cuomo wasn't) Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes, of course. Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Lemming Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes... as long as I could isolate myself from "at risk" individuals. As I understand it, the vaccination is made from some dead portion of the virus. If something went wrong, and I got COVID-19, I wouldn't want to infect others (especially those with comorbidity health issues). Link to post Share on other sites
Inflikted Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I mean, ideally, yeah, I'd prefer to be vaccinated against it, so I wouldn't have to worry about it (or at least, not as much). On the flip side, I do worry what side effects or long term issues may arise from a "rushed" vaccine. Supposedly, even "18 months" is pretty unprecedented for vaccines for things, yes? That's kind of scary to think about. But, I also don't want to spend the rest of my life distancing myself from people, not going anywhere or doing anything, not being able to spend time with friends, etc. I dunno. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CaliforniaGirl Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes, I will be receiving the vaccine. Link to post Share on other sites
CaliforniaGirl Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, sothereiwas said: I hear bathing in a bleach solution cures that and fights COVID-19 (I'm joking people, but Mrs Cuomo wasn't) The president wasn't either when he talked about injections. Or about not injections but about...well anyway, well, so...UV...but...well, anyway, he was just being sarcastic. Well, he wasn't really being sarcastic. For every jab...this administration has willingly provided a counter-jab. 😂 It's been a very Monty Python 3.5 years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CaliforniaGirl Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Lemming said: Yes... as long as I could isolate myself from "at risk" individuals. As I understand it, the vaccination is made from some dead portion of the virus. If something went wrong, and I got COVID-19, I wouldn't want to infect others (especially those with comorbidity health issues). I feel that over the next year to year and a half we should all be able to get get more information. It's a rush but it's not a rush like the hydroxychloriquine rush (like within a few months of 19 even hitting our shores). We have some time to keep researching a vax and its potential implications from our homes, plus see real testing before deciding but I think I already know. I had what my doctor called "some form of the flu" beginning this February. I'd had my flu shot which I believe was for three strains. (Or four?) I have literally never been that sick in my life. My family was very frightened. I have never in 50+ years gone to the doctor for the flu. I did this time and only as a last resort before just going to the hospital. Couldn't breathe, wheezing, fever, couldn't stand without fainting, slept 16, 18 or more hours/day for a week. He said I did not have pneumonia, asked if I had traveled, particularly to China and then sent me home. No medicine he gave me controlled the cough, I can't believe I never bled. I coughed through mid-April. (With decreasing severity but total: two months.) I did fear I might die during those first three weeks. Waking up gasping. But did not qualify for 19 testing. I no longer had a fever by that point and my cough wasn't technically a wheeze and my state was in the thick of being punished with insufficient tests because the president doesn't think my governor is nice I no test for me. My husband and I have appointments to see if we can be tested to find out if we had 19. He was very sick and he has had numbness and a strange sense of smell, neuro symptoms. Our kids are fine. Were very sick for under a week, before I got sick, slept constantly between coughing. Took them to doctor at time. (Husband was last to get sick.) I am reasonably sure I won't live through another one of those. I can't even say that was 19. But I can say that if there's a vax...yes...I do need to take that calculated risk. ETA: I'm the oldest in my family. Other edits on my whole family's "mystery illness" above. Edited May 22, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl Link to post Share on other sites
mrs rubble Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes, I would probably be strongly encouraged to by my pathologist as we are working with the virus. I've been vaccinated for everything else that they offer. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CaliforniaGirl Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, mark clemson said: I'll take it once it's been out for several months. I have no issue with vaccines and have never had problems with one. When that very dangerous flu was around several years ago I actually got vaccinated for it 3 time. (Twice that year and then once the next year when they did a combined vaccine that included it.) Now if only these giant green boils would stop growing on my back... A lot of us may have to wait anyway...it may not be rolled out all at once. Or so I heard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sothereiwas Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Latest news says that the US has 'secured' 300 million doses of AstraZeneca's vaccine, but it's hard to say how that will shake out exactly. Link to post Share on other sites
Mrin Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 No. But I've already had COVID-19 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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