Co-workers pretty much anti-maskers

[QuietRiot]

Where I work it's a government entity. Typically of about 15 to 20-ish in the building. This entity does have rules in place on how should deal with the public, and we currently due a curb side service as we no longer let people into the building. This is true across the board with the tag office, DMV, and other places that had, pre-Covid, dealt with face-to-face in public services. Now everything is restricted to online and curbside.

Our place has made us wear masks shall we go outside to deal with the public, however, inside...no one wears masks.

Now, we had been doing this since the whole thing started in March...and I didn't think of it much of a concern since we're only among each other and, at least the beginning of the lock down, our boss encouraged us not to go to any weddings or large groupings of people and not bring it back to our work place.

Now, with our state's next phase, the state is opening up a little more...and now suggesting groupings of no more than 50. Remember, with this state, everything is a suggestion pretty much. BUT...places of businesses and business owners are using their own thing. Some are not even allowing people into their stores without masks...and therein lies my discovery of how my co-workers thing of this...because, well..."water cooler" talk.

One woman I work with stated she wanted to go into a cell phone store to shop around. A shop employee stopped her and said she wasn't in without a mask. She didn't have one (well, she revealed to refuse to wear one outside of work), and they asked to talk to them about their products THROUGH the window outside.  SHe said, "No thank you, I'll take my business elsewhere"

Then said how this whole thing is fear-based and ridiculous.  This started a chain of my co-workers saying giving their take on what they've been doing outside of work. One expressed that she hasn't worn her mask...outside of work...anywhere. Not grocery stores, or anything. 

Another said she had her wedding plans scrubbed when this started, and with this NEW phase, she can finally do her wedding.

It kind of made me feel or think, "Maybe I'm the odd one out here or maybe I should start thinking like them..this is ridiculous"?  Kind of like a Twilight Zone episode where you're the only crazy one and they are the normal ones, but that episode flipped it at the end.

I thought someone here posted a similar story about the co-workers they are around.

The only thing that we have going for us...in our county..is that the # of cases is extremely small, and since March has been pretty much a slow crawl, with 1 or 2 cases per day or couple of days. There's even a hospital of ours that tout itself as a "Covid-Free" hospital. ( at least for the moment I suppose).

OUTSIDE of work, it would appear almost my ENTIRE social circle agrees that this whole Covid thing is fear-based, with the media pumping up its severity. SO it would seem I'm the crazy one here? I'm in  the minority that's for sure. Even as our state opens up, the only concern is for those who are considered vulnerable, ie the elderly (over 65), obese people, diabetics, people with renal issues, or any other underlying health issue that was listed to be highly reactive with Covid.

Otherwise, if you're pretty much healthy, under 65, and without these health conditions, you should be fine.  Or so is the implication.

Anyhow, anyone here have a small group of co-workers that complained about having to wear masks when entering businesses or doing their daily errands?

Edited June 5, 2020 by QuietRiot

[schlumpy]

57 minutes ago, QuietRiot said:

It kind of made me feel or think, "Maybe I'm the odd one out here or maybe I should start thinking like them..this is ridiculous"?  Kind of like a Twilight Zone episode where you're the 

I have to admit the same thoughts have crossed my mind. My risk for Covid is pretty small. I have yet to feel the effects of the virus. No one in my entire family has been infected that I'm aware of. Maybe if I saw a hospital room of people on ventilators it would bring it home to me. All that is hidden and my only connection is the talking heads on TV.

I think about it. I think about mask free and then I think about what if.

[QuietRiot]

7 minutes ago, schlumpy said:

I have to admit the same thoughts have crossed my mind. My risk for Covid is pretty small. I have yet to feel the effects of the virus. No one in my entire family has been infected that I'm aware of. Maybe if I saw a hospital room of people on ventilators it would bring it home to me. All that is hidden and my only connection is the talking heads on TV.

I think about it. I think about mask free and then I think about what if.

Yeah, I think it won't hit home with a lot of these people as they haven't had a personal family member or someone they are close to get hit by the Covid. 

[preraph]

Dallas has reached a new peak this week.  10 or more deaths a day just in Dallas.  Over 100,000 have died.  You can't fake that.  It's not real to people until someone is in their household and then isolated where they can't even see them at the hospital and dies.  

[Redhead14]

The media is pumping up it's severity??? 

On 6/5/2020 at 5:24 AM, QuietRiot said:

, it would appear almost my ENTIRE social circle agrees that this whole Covid thing is fear-based, with the media pumping up its severity. 

I don't understand that mentality.  The media is pumping up it's severity???  The governments of pretty much the ENTIRE WORLD locked down and requires masks and distancing.  Those governments were influenced by the media to the extent that they would trash their economies (or make them worse than they already were) and cause fear and upheaval for billions?  The only way that could be true would be to be believing in some bible-based conspiracy theories . . . which I won't visit here in this thread except to say, if that's the basis for their thinking fine.  That at least would make sense.

I know a couple of people who have passed away due to Covid.  It's real.  We didn't feel the full brunt and it seems less severe only because the efforts we took to manage it actually worked!  And, now some want to trash that progress by blowing it all off too soon because "they" aren't at much risk or haven't suffered any losses???  F them.

Edited June 7, 2020 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[QuietRiot]

4 hours ago, Redhead14 said:

The media is pumping up it's severity??? 

I don't understand that mentality.  The media is pumping up it's severity???  The governments of pretty much the ENTIRE WORLD locked down and requires masks and distancing.  Those governments were influenced by the media to the extent that they would trash their economies (or make them worse than they already were) and cause fear and upheaval for billions?  The only way that could be true would be to be believing in some bible-based conspiracy theories . . . which I won't visit here in this thread except to say, if that's the basis for their thinking fine.  That at least would make sense.

I know a couple of people who have passed away due to Covid.  It's real.  We didn't feel the full brunt and it seems less severe only because the efforts we took to manage it actually worked!  And, now some want to trash that progress by blowing it all off too soon because "they" aren't at much risk or haven't suffered any losses???  F them.

Exactly, and when I mentioned to a certain friend about "If it's fear based, then why is the whole damned world taking action?" her answer, "New World Order...Google it" (Yeah, tinfoil hat time).

 

I know a couple of people who have passed away due to Covid.  It's real.  We didn't feel the full brunt and it seems less severe only because the efforts we took to manage it actually worked!  And, now some want to trash that progress by blowing it all off too soon because "they" aren't at much risk or haven't suffered any losses???  F them.

Yeah, another popular argument is , "Well, I don't know anyone that caught it, or even know a friend of a friend that got it, thus...not that big of a deal".

Edited June 7, 2020 by QuietRiot

[gamon]

Either we wear masks and social distance or we say 'screw it' and let the virus tear through the population and kill of (mostly) the old, the fat and the sick.

It's probably going to happen anyway as more and more places open up and are unlikely to lockdown again and cause a second wave of economic destruction as we finally begin to recover from the first.

People are going to revert back to their old habits and start hugging friends and acquaintances, and have large gatherings, and yeah, not wear masks regularly.

 

[QuietRiot]

29 minutes ago, gamon said:

Either we wear masks and social distance or we say 'screw it' and let the virus tear through the population and kill of (mostly) the old, the fat and

 

 

Yeah, one fit/jock guy I know said something about "It's just the survival of the fittest at this point". IN a way, it kind of mirrors the above quoted, but he didn't mean it in that context, because since people in general, EVEN the fat, sick, and the old...are like "f-it, throw risk to the wind"

THere was this one guy on FB that commented, "I'm fat, diabetic, and have kidney issues....and I don't give a sh*t!" 

So even those that SHOULD be concerned, don't give a rat about their OWN lives!!

[basil67]

@QuietRiot I'm guessing that those who say these things have isolated lives with nobody around who is special to them.   

[Redhead14]

1 hour ago, QuietRiot said:

Exactly, and when I mentioned to a certain friend about "If it's fear based, then why is the whole damned world taking action?" her answer, "New World Order...Google it" (Yeah, tinfoil hat time).

99% of the people who are throwing that around so "glibly", don't have an F ing clue what that is about and why they should be scared out of their F ing minds if it were true.

[simpycurious]

On 6/7/2020 at 5:39 PM, QuietRiot said:

 

Yeah, one fit/jock guy I know said something about "It's just the survival of the fittest at this point". IN a way, it kind of mirrors the above quoted, but he didn't mean it in that context, because since people in general, EVEN the fat, sick, and the old...are like "f-it, throw risk to the wind"

THere was this one guy on FB that commented, "I'm fat, diabetic, and have kidney issues....and I don't give a sh*t!" 

So even those that SHOULD be concerned, don't give a rat about their OWN lives!!

That was funny but I think many have gotten OVER the whole deal.  Athletes wearing masks while practicing, working out or in between series is just too much for me 

but it's about to be a reality

[CaliforniaGirl]

On 6/7/2020 at 3:02 PM, QuietRiot said:

Exactly, and when I mentioned to a certain friend about "If it's fear based, then why is the whole damned world taking action?" her answer, "New World Order...Google it" (Yeah, tinfoil hat time).

 

 

 

Yeah, another popular argument is , "Well, I don't know anyone that caught it, or even know a friend of a friend that got it, thus...not that big of a deal".

Yeah, it's odd that so much of the time the people jeering about how wearing a mask means living in fear, are the same people who hold the most alarmist, extremist fear-based conspiracy theories. The ones with NO backing. (It's a hoax, MSM is trying to trick and control us, Bill Gates wants to reduce the population with a deadly vaccine, New World Order, Group Whatever planned this to destroy the economy in order to bring about anarchy, or whatever.) I feel like it may be projection? Because they're actually the ones who are so scared?

Edited June 10, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl
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[QuietRiot]

8 minutes ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

Yeah, it's odd that so much of the time the people jeering about how wearing a mask means living in fear, are the same people who hold the most alarmist, extremist fear-based conspiracy theories. The ones with NO backing. (It's a hoax, MSM is trying to trick and control us, Bill Gates wants to reduce the population with a deadly vaccine, New World Order, Group Whatever planned this to destroy the economy in order to bring about anarchy, or whatever.) I feel like it may be projection? Because they're actually the ones who are so scared?

It could be. If someone says something to me about wearing masks...I'd might say, "I hope I'm wrong!" 

Oh, and don't forget the cellular 5G network, apparently, it reduces the immune system and thusly can compromise you. What's killing me is that I am hearing testimonials from people out in public wearing a mask getting approached by someone getting onto them about it. 

It's as if people are minding their own business MUCH less since this has all happened. I am concerned about getting car work done at a lifelong place I go to (since high school) that's a Trump supporter. I go there, but don't get into political discussions with him much at all, but I'd over hear him talking to others about how California should just fall into the ocean and other such nonsense.

He's the father of an old high school friend. 

If he sees me wearing mask, I'd be curious if he says anything.

[Ellener]

This is in our local news today:

It looks like local leaders in Texas figured out a way to enforce rules about wearing masks -- and it came from Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff.

He issued the executive order Wednesday that mandates businesses create a health and safety policy. That policy must require customers and staff to wear masks. 

Businesses that don't comply with the new order could get popped with a $1,000 fine per violation. 

 

[QuietRiot]

17 hours ago, Ellener said:

This is in our local news today:

It looks like local leaders in Texas figured out a way to enforce rules about wearing masks -- and it came from Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff.

He issued the executive order Wednesday that mandates businesses create a health and safety policy. That policy must require customers and staff to wear masks. 

Businesses that don't comply with the new order could get popped with a $1,000 fine per violation. 

 

 

Orange County in Florida passed this mandate. 

https://www.wesh.com/article/masks-mandatory-in-orange-county-starting-saturday/32909702

There's this state representative/lawyer that is on a which hunt to SUE corresponding state counties that are mandating required mask wearing. Saying it is unconstitutional. Funny, we have to wear shirts and shoes in stores, but we don't have someone screaming about that.

Now we're going to have a "no shirts, no shoes, no mask...no service!"

However, I am not seeing anything about what will the consequences be.  If any, I feel that some police might be so inclined to quit their jobs as they don't want that added to their plates.

[Ellener]

1 hour ago, QuietRiot said:

I feel that some police might be so inclined to quit their jobs as they don't want that added to their plates.

I don't imagine many people will be petty enough to call police over it. But just as most of us wear clothes and shoes to go into a food store, it sets a norm.

Our own president refuses to wear a mask and told Wall Street Journal this week that people who do are just doing it to protest against him, it's been a very strange issue overall.