Are more women content on remaining unattached?

[Azincourt]

12 hours ago, Zona said:

I hope these women will be happy to be unmarried and childless in the end. According to an article I saw in the Atlantic, If a woman is not married by the age of 35, there is only a 5% she will ever be married. Time is not on their side.

Ever considered the possibility that women simply don't want to get married? They can make their own money, buy their own houses, and most millennial dudes are broke. What exactly does a man bring to a marriage that is valuable enough for a woman to consider marriage in this day and age?

Children? The world's overpopulated, climate change, the world's economy is demolished every 10 years, millions don't have a job, most dudes don't go to college, most guys never achieve much with their lives. 

 

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Women have a sizable advantage over men when dating in their 20's

Not really.

Let's picture this guy.

He shaves and showers everyday. Wears cheap, but attractive clothes that fit his body build.

Doesn't eat fast food, doesnt drink soda, doesn't smoke, doesn't drink.

He's average height. 6 feet tall, which means there's lots of Dutch men, German men,  Swedish men who are 3 to 5 inches taler than him, and yet he still does fine with attractive women.

 Average weight and body fat percentage. 180lbs at 10% body fat, he could have a better body but he doesn't really bother with physical exercise.

Get him in a liberal arts college, with a female student body in the tens and tens of thousands of students, coming from Portugal, Italy, France, Germany, Brazil, Angola, South America etc etc.

The average woman there is 5'9'' and naturally slender, aged 18-22, with a pretty face, thick hair, and nice hair.

These women want to have sex. They want a boyfriend. They get lonely. What do they do, when there are so very few men and so many women?

They approach the guy. They hit on him. They have sex on the first date. They're the ones who ask the guy out.

Men have a massive advantage over women in their 20s. And 30s, 40s, and 50s and 60s. The men who have never got to experience this are the men who are too lazy to do so.  No offense man but guys these days have as much testosterone running in their veins as 30 year old billionaires have women rejecting them.

 

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. In the 30's and beyond, the advantage shifts to men significantly.Wasting your best years looking for Mr. Perfect and waiting for him to commit is such a common mistake nowadays, and I don't think a lot of women have a realistic view of how hot/desirable they are. In the United States, over 70% of women are either overweight, obese or morbidly obese.

Mr. Perfect?

Women don't spend their youth chasing after Mr. Perfect. Attractive young women don't have high standards in men. They don't expect a guy to be rich. They don't expect a guy to be 6'6'', they don't expect him to own a house at the age of 25 and have the mortgage already paid for. I don't even have a car. They don't need a guy to be muscled up. I'm as average as average comes. The Portuguese soccer player Bernardo Silva, from Manchester City, is exactly the way I look these days, and I've always had attractive women approaching me for dates, hook-ups, and relationships.

The problem young men face in the dating world is that they want women who are more attractive than them. Me? I've never expected to date women more attractive than me, as someone who matches me in looks is more than enough for me to be happy, and yet I've dated some really hot women because I never felt intimidated by how hot a woman is.

Edited June 28, 2020 by Azincourt

[Zona]

2 hours ago, Azincourt said:

Ever considered the possibility that women simply don't want to get married? 

Yes of course. If they don't want to get married than that is a perfectly good choice, as long as they don't regret it later in life.

I base my opinions on research and studies, which there are a lot of, not "gut feelings" or guesswork. I think the studies back up my POV, although I assume you are European and things are likely quite different there.

[CaliforniaGirl]

On 6/27/2020 at 6:14 PM, Zona said:

I hope these women will be happy to be unmarried and childless in the end. According to an article I saw in the Atlantic, If a woman is not married by the age of 35, there is only a 5% she will ever be married. Time is not on their side.

Women have a sizable advantage over men when dating in their 20's. In the 30's and beyond, the advantage shifts to men significantly.Wasting your best years looking for Mr. Perfect and waiting for him to commit is such a common mistake nowadays, and I don't think a lot of women have a realistic view of how hot/desirable they are. In the United States, over 70% of women are either overweight, obese or morbidly obese.

I think more women than anyone suspects would be totally okay with being "childless." As for not marrying by 35, marrying is no guarantee of permanence so she might end up "unmarried" anyway.

I've heard this cautionary commentary so many times...hot young women, hurry up and get married even if you're not sure, otherwise you'll grow old all alone. I don't think young women are just buying that like they did once upon a time. Not being married doesn't mean alone. We've been controlled and made to accept "whomever" that way but more women are seeing through that.

A majority is still getting married but first marriages are getting later, currently to close to age 29 for women, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that age 35 limit start to change too.

And let's not forget that a percentage of people after age 35 don't wind up married because they just don't want to.

[CaliforniaGirl]

11 hours ago, Zona said:

Yes of course. If they don't want to get married than that is a perfectly good choice, as long as they don't regret it later in life.

I base my opinions on research and studies, which there are a lot of, not "gut feelings" or guesswork. I think the studies back up my POV, although I assume you are European and things are likely quite different there.

Who can guarantee a life with no regrets?

As I see things, none of these arguments are good enough to mean it's better that a woman get married even if she's not sure. If you want to see emotional and financial regret, check out a divorce story or two. 

 "Look out - you're going to wind up all alone!" is just not good enough anymore.

The intimation is that if a young girl doesn't hurry to get a ring by X date, she'll wind up lying dead in a dark apartment somewhere 50 years from now with her hungry cats eating pieces of her and nobody will even know she's dead for a couple of weeks because, well, she has no husband, so who will know or care whether she's alive? She's OLD and ALONE. A broken woman. Then again, she refused to marry that 40-year-old dude back when she was 28 and still had "market value" so, well, she deserves what she gets.

I mean...it's just not like that now. Old women DO wind up alone, divorces happen or husbands die, how about those women? Do they get punished and shamed too like those women who didn't hurry up and get that piece of paper before the clock struck 35? 

Generally, nope. For either group. Many just live their own, full lives with friends, travel, hobbies, people who love them.

Children can be wonderful but there's no guarantee they'll come around to visit or even live within a thousand miles.

A majority of people will marry in their lifetime and that's fine, but women aren't being shamed or threatened anymore into marriages they don't really want like they were years ago. Especially younger people. Being with someone can be great but not having that doesn't have to suck either and more women are choosing to wait until it's right. And for some, if it's never then it's never - that doesn't mean no fun, no friends or no sex - and for divorced women or widows, there's so much out there to enjoy today without shame. 

It just is what it is, the world is changing, and we need to get used to this change like every other one before it for thousands of years, and others to come.

Edited June 29, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl

[QuietRiot]

20 hours ago, Azincourt said:

Ever considered the possibility that women simply don't want to get married? They can make their own money, buy their own houses, and most millennial dudes are broke. What exactly does a man bring to a marriage that is valuable enough for a woman to consider marriage in this day and age?

Children? The world's overpopulated, climate change, the world's economy is demolished every 10 years, millions don't have a job, most dudes don't go to college, most guys never achieve much with their lives. 

 

Not really.

Let's picture this guy.

He shaves and showers everyday. Wears cheap, but attractive clothes that fit his body build.

Doesn't eat fast food, doesnt drink soda, doesn't smoke, doesn't drink.

He's average height. 6 feet tall, which means there's lots of Dutch men, German men,  Swedish men who are 3 to 5 inches taler than him, and yet he still does fine with attractive women.

 Average weight and body fat percentage. 180lbs at 10% body fat, he could have a better body but he doesn't really bother with physical exercise.

Get him in a liberal arts college, with a female student body in the tens and tens of thousands of students, coming from Portugal, Italy, France, Germany, Brazil, Angola, South America etc etc.

The average woman there is 5'9'' and naturally slender, aged 18-22, with a pretty face, thick hair, and nice hair.

These women want to have sex. They want a boyfriend. They get lonely. What do they do, when there are so very few men and so many women?

They approach the guy. They hit on him. They have sex on the first date. They're the ones who ask the guy out.

Men have a massive advantage over women in their 20s. And 30s, 40s, and 50s and 60s. The men who have never got to experience this are the men who are too lazy to do so.  No offense man but guys these days have as much testosterone running in their veins as 30 year old billionaires have women rejecting them.

 

Mr. Perfect?

Women don't spend their youth chasing after Mr. Perfect. Attractive young women don't have high standards in men. They don't expect a guy to be rich. They don't expect a guy to be 6'6'', they don't expect him to own a house at the age of 25 and have the mortgage already paid for. I don't even have a car. They don't need a guy to be muscled up. I'm as average as average comes. The Portuguese soccer player Bernardo Silva, from Manchester City, is exactly the way I look these days, and I've always had attractive women approaching me for dates, hook-ups, and relationships.

The problem young men face in the dating world is that they want women who are more attractive than them. Me? I've never expected to date women more attractive than me, as someone who matches me in looks is more than enough for me to be happy, and yet I've dated some really hot women because I never felt intimidated by how hot a woman is.

Average ht. of a man has NEVER been 6 feet tall.

[elaine567]

5 minutes ago, QuietRiot said:

Average ht. of a man has NEVER been 6 feet tall.

Average height of a man in the Netherlands is now 6 foot

[Zona]

I'm not spinning some kind of cautionary tale. I could care less if a woman decides to stay single, and obviously she is not wife material if that is the case, so she is doing guys a favor.  I'm just pointing out obvious facts that some people may (or may not) find useful in understanding current western culture. It's better when people make informed decisions based on reality, would you not agree?

I find almost all ideologies and movements introduce bias in people's minds. Instead of looking at the facts, they instead bend things around to fit their established beliefs. Honestly I see a lot of closed mindedness among feminists when it comes to all these issues we are discussing here. Getting dating advice from feminists, or advice about whether it is better to remain unattached is probably a very bad idea unless you want to stay single.

Now as to who holds the edge in dating when in their 20's, is anyone arguing that young fertile women don't hold a tremendous amount of power? And most young fertile women are pretty damn gorgeous!

Is anyone arguing that the biological clock as it relates to motherhood is not a real thing?

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by Zona

[Fresh_Start]

On 6/27/2020 at 9:36 PM, CaliforniaGirl said:

I guess Adam should have been satisfied with the bears and non-poisonous rattlesnakes and birds and stuff and quit while he was ahead. 😂

I had intended on replying to this the other day, but I got side-tracked by the site removing all of our "laughs" and disabling the "laughter" reaction.  I'm not a huge fan of the decision. 

Anywho...

Your reply reminded me of an old joke:

Adam was walking around the Garden of Eden feeling very lonely so God asked Adam, "What is wrong with you?"

Adam said, "Lord, I don't have anyone to talk to."

God said, "Then I will give you a companion and she will be called a woman.  This woman will gather food for you, she will cook for you, and when you discover clothing she will wash it for you.  She will bear your children and never ask you to get up in the middle of the night to take care of them. She will agree with every decision you make, she will not nag you, and she will always be the first to admit she was wrong when you've had a disagreement. She will never have a headache and will freely give love and passion whenever needed. She will never question your behavior or the company you keep. She will support you and understand that you have important decisions to make throughout your life and don't have time for nonsense."

Adam asked God, "What will a woman like this cost?"

God replied, "An arm and a leg."

Then Adam asked, "What can I get for a rib?"

😏

[CaliforniaGirl]

15 minutes ago, Fresh_Start said:

I had intended on replying to this the other day, but I got side-tracked by the site removing all of our "laughs" and disabling the "laughter" reaction.  I'm not a huge fan of the decision. 

Anywho...

Your reply reminded me of an old joke:

Adam was walking around the Garden of Eden feeling very lonely so God asked Adam, "What is wrong with you?"

Adam said, "Lord, I don't have anyone to talk to."

God said, "Then I will give you a companion and she will be called a woman.  This woman will gather food for you, she will cook for you, and when you discover clothing she will wash it for you.  She will bear your children and never ask you to get up in the middle of the night to take care of them. She will agree with every decision you make, she will not nag you, and she will always be the first to admit she was wrong when you've had a disagreement. She will never have a headache and will freely give love and passion whenever needed. She will never question your behavior or the company you keep. She will support you and understand that you have important decisions to make throughout your life and don't have time for nonsense."

Adam asked God, "What will a woman like this cost?"

God replied, "An arm and a leg."

Then Adam asked, "What can I get for a rib?"

😏

OMG (snort) 😂😂😂

[basil67]

On 6/28/2020 at 11:36 AM, CaliforniaGirl said:

I guess Adam should have been satisfied with the bears and non-poisonous rattlesnakes and birds and stuff and quit while he was ahead. 😂

Ah, but what about his first wife Lilith?  (from Jewish texts)   Like Adam, she was born of the earth and as such refused to be subservient to him.  They clashed terribly and she left.   So then Eve came along and because she was from Adam's rib was not his equal and Adam was happy.

Perhaps the women who aren't wanting to do the relationship stuff anymore have Lilith's spirit?   Though rumour has it that she married a devil, so who knows...

Edited June 30, 2020 by basil67

[Zona]

3 hours ago, basil67 said:

Perhaps the women who aren't wanting to do the relationship stuff anymore have Lilith's spirit?   

I think that a majority of women want to get married, they just don't like being married. It can take a while to domesticate a man in terms of doing chores, and in the meanwhile it feels like servitude.

I think my wife and I split up the chores well. I do almost all of the cooking, and she does the dishes and keeps the kitchen clean. In fact I do most of the housework because of her crazy hours. I can't expect her to do much housework, but I FRIGGEN HATE DOING DISHES. For some reason it doesn't bother her. Lucky for me I guess. There are times when she just randomly goes on a cleaning and scrubbing and organizing spree.

In the end, I think most couples  find some workable arrangement for housework, so it's mostly a non issue. 

 

Edited June 30, 2020 by Zona

[CaliforniaGirl]

15 hours ago, Zona said:

I'm not spinning some kind of cautionary tale. I could care less if a woman decides to stay single, and obviously she is not wife material if that is the case, so she is doing guys a favor.  I'm just pointing out obvious facts that some people may (or may not) find useful in understanding current western culture. It's better when people make informed decisions based on reality, would you not agree?

I find almost all ideologies and movements introduce bias in people's minds. Instead of looking at the facts, they instead bend things around to fit their established beliefs. Honestly I see a lot of closed mindedness among feminists when it comes to all these issues we are discussing here. Getting dating advice from feminists, or advice about whether it is better to remain unattached is probably a very bad idea unless you want to stay single.

Now as to who holds the edge in dating when in their 20's, is anyone arguing that young fertile women don't hold a tremendous amount of power? And most young fertile women are pretty damn gorgeous!

Is anyone arguing that the biological clock as it relates to motherhood is not a real thing?

 

Uh-oh. The F word. 

[basil67]

16 hours ago, Zona said:

Honestly I see a lot of closed mindedness among feminists when it comes to all these issues we are discussing here. Getting dating advice from feminists, or advice about whether it is better to remain unattached is probably a very bad idea unless you want to stay single.

I'm a feminist.  And happily married to boot.  But I have no idea what the closed minded feminist approach is to "all these issues we are discussing here" is.   Other than me joking about Lilith, what bits are you referring to?

My feminist relationship advice to my daughter consists of "if you want a partner, find a good, honest man who loves you treats you well.  Love them and treat them well in return.  Don't play games and don't accept games"  I wouldn't have thought this was bad advice.

 The only person here who I recall saying that young women should be given advice to remain unattached was male and I disagreed with him.   

Edited June 30, 2020 by basil67

[CaliforniaGirl]

35 minutes ago, basil67 said:

I'm a feminist.  And happily married to boot.  But I have no idea what the closed minded feminist approach is to "all these issues we are discussing here" is.   Other than me joking about Lilith, what bits are you referring to?

My feminist relationship advice to my daughter consists of "if you want a partner, find a good, honest man who loves you treats you well.  Love them and treat them well in return.  Don't play games and don't accept games"  I wouldn't have thought this was bad advice.

 The only person here who I recall saying that young women should be given advice to remain unattached was male and I disagreed with him.   

Exactly. In fact, feminism (if you will) isn't about "should." It's about "can." Choice.

We all know most people end up married. But "should," even if it's not a good match, just to get children before the buzzer goes off? And then resent each other and then get divorced? Young women just aren' falling so easily for that. They want at least a shot at a great relationship. Not usury. Not hurrying to marry because somebody's market value is about to go down.

That doesn't mean they'll NEVER get married, period. YES...even 35-year-olds. Stats for relationships aren't static. People are marrying older, are considering IF they want children - was it better in the old days when even people who didn't want children had them? Was it better for the children? - and it isn't like young women don't know menopause will happen. It's just that it may not be a life-halting tragedy if a percentage don't grab the likeliest groom to make children and be miserable with. People want more today...yes, even if it means sacrifices. We're in a state of transition. People still fall in love. They still get married. But not to just the guy who's there and asking because 30 is around the corner.

But this thread was never about young women not wanting relationships. It turned into that, but this thread was about older women not wanting to remarry or for some, to even have a relationship. As Basil says, ^ literally ONE person on this thread has suggested "teaching" young women that they shouldn't get married, and that was a man. Is he one of those feminists some people seem to be so afraid of?

Edited June 30, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl

[Azincourt]

23 hours ago, QuietRiot said:

Average ht. of a man has NEVER been 6 feet tall.

Average height of a man has never been 6 feet tall?

Last I heard the United States of America isn't the only Country in the entire world. 

I moved to Europe a long time ago.

The average height in The Netherlands is 6 feet tall for men aged 30 and above.  And there's plenty of young men who are 6'2''  and more, barefoot.

Average height for men in Sweden? 5'11''? Germany? 5'11'' The Scandinavian nations including the one in the middle of the ocean? 5'11'' +

So when I say that, as a 6 feet tall man, I'm average. I mean it. Because I'm competing with European men for European women, and these women are easily 5'7'' to 6''+ barefoot, and still the vast majority of them don't mind that I'm either average-height or shorter than them(my last girlfriend was 6'5'' barefoot).

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 The only person here who I recall saying that young women should be given advice to remain unattached was male and I disagreed with him.   

Yes, I often give the advice to my younger sisters to not get married and to not have children, for a variety of reasons. 

You never know when the good man might turn into a bad man, which has happened to many women before. you never know if having a child won't ruin their figures, and then there goes their fashion modelling careers, and their budding acting careers, and that can happen.

One of my ex-girlfriends is 5'7'' and 120lbs. Her mother is 5'7'' and 170lbs, but when she was my ex-girlfriends age(22) she was pretty much like her daughter. When she got pregnant her body was transformed by  those pregnancy hormones and she never managed to regain her long-lost figure, despite working out regularly and eating right and leading a healthy lifestyle.

I saw the pictures of her wedding ceremony and she was stunning.  These days, not so much.  

Having a child can also create long-lasting mental problems, and it's still a life-risk for a woman to give birth to a child, even in a developed nation, and then there's the whole,

''the world's economy crashes every 10 years, national wages have been stagnant for the last 10+ years, it won't take long before a person needs a doctorate degree in medicine to get a job as a waiter at a restaurant, robotics and technology will result in many millions of people losing their jobs,  the house market is completely busted and you need to sell a kidney to get the downpayment on a house that ain't even all that impressive'' 

There are so many reasons for why a woman(or a man) shouldn't get married and shouldn't have children, and so very few reasons to actually get married and to have children, and I love my sisters dearly. I don't want to see them suffer by getting married or by having kids.

But if they ever do, I'll still be there for them, when the marriage turns sour and ends.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Azincourt

[Roswell91]

On 6/27/2020 at 7:39 PM, CaliforniaGirl said:

I agree with you. there is nothing so panty-drying as having the ring put on it and suddenly expecting to be a grown man's Mom.

I've noticed that men want the woman to be a domestic goddess. 

Even people I've spoken to ask how good of a cook i am and stuff. Asserting that its a woman's job to do the cooking lol.

One man was asking what exactly i can cook. ( im not much of a cook). So i listed one or two things and he was like "even i can make that, its easy". And then proceeded to say i should learn 😂

Edited June 30, 2020 by Roswell91

[Azincourt]

7 minutes ago, Roswell91 said:

I've noticed that men want the woman to be a domestic goddess. 

Even people I've spoken to ask how good of a cook i am and stuff. Asserting that its a woman's job to do the cooking lol.

One man was asking what exactly i can cook. ( im not much of a cook). So i listed one or two things and he was like "even i can make that, its easy". And then proceeded to say i should learn 😂

There are many men who are seeking for that in a woman, and many men who aren't expecting their wives to be a 1950's stay-at-home wife.

Eating out is expensive. Knowing how to cook saves up on time, money, and it's fun to cook in any  case.  That man wasn't trying to insult you. He said you shoud learn to cook because cooking is a life-long skill that helps out quite a bit.

I've been cooking since an early age. On the other hand, my mother was never much of a cook, never enjoyed it, and it was my father who did all of the cooking.  My mother kept the household going strong in other ways.

[Roswell91]

On 6/28/2020 at 4:49 PM, Zona said:

Yes of course. If they don't want to get married than that is a perfectly good choice, as long as they don't regret it later in life.

I base my opinions on research and studies, which there are a lot of, not "gut feelings" or guesswork. I think the studies back up my POV, although I assume you are European and things are likely quite different there.

Well cheers for the optimism.

I only have a few years left to find a person to settle down with, otherwise ill be destined to be alone forever. 

Brilliant! 

[Roswell91]

1 hour ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

Exactly. In fact, feminism (if you will) isn't about "should." It's about "can." Choice.

We all know most people end up married. But "should," even if it's not a good match, just to get children before the buzzer goes off? And then resent each other and then get divorced? Young women just aren' falling so easily for that. They want at least a shot at a great relationship. Not usury. Not hurrying to marry because somebody's market value is about to go down.

That doesn't mean they'll NEVER get married, period. YES...even 35-year-olds. Stats for relationships aren't static. People are marrying older, are considering IF they want children - was it better in the old days when even people who didn't want children had them? Was it better for the children? - and it isn't like young women don't know menopause will happen. It's just that it may not be a life-halting tragedy if a percentage don't grab the likeliest groom to make children and be miserable with. People want more today...yes, even if it means sacrifices. We're in a state of transition. People still fall in love. They still get married. But not to just the guy who's there and asking because 30 is around the corner.

But this thread was never about young women not wanting relationships. It turned into that, but this thread was about older women not wanting to remarry or for some, to even have a relationship. As Basil says, ^ literally ONE person on this thread has suggested "teaching" young women that they shouldn't get married, and that was a man. Is he one of those feminists some people seem to be so afraid of?

Probably why all my friends are married now or grabbed a man recently 😂.

They more likely than not thought its now or never. 

Then there's  me, late with  everything. And according to zona, i dont have much time left lol. And others in my age range who are still single. 

 

Edited June 30, 2020 by Roswell91

[Roswell91]

7 hours ago, basil67 said:

Ah, but what about his first wife Lilith?  (from Jewish texts)   Like Adam, she was born of the earth and as such refused to be subservient to him.  They clashed terribly and she left.   So then Eve came along and because she was from Adam's rib was not his equal and Adam was happy.

Perhaps the women who aren't wanting to do the relationship stuff anymore have Lilith's spirit?   Though rumour has it that she married a devil, so who knows...

Im Lilith 😂

[Azincourt]

Just now, Roswell91 said:

Probably why all my friends are married now or grabbed a man recently 😂.

They more likely than not thought its now or never. 

Then there's  me, late with  everything. And according to zona, i dont have much time left lol. 

Yeah, well, your friends marriage might turn out good, and I hope it does, but I got a feeling the reason why the divorce rate is at 89% in Belgium is because many women reach the age of 30 and feel(societal and family pressure) to get married and to have children, and so they pick a guy with a job or whatever, and they get married, only to end up a few years later divorced because a marriage to work out needs a lot more than just, ''he has nice abs'' or, '' he has a job,'' so women should take their time in picking a partner they're supposed to be with for the next 40 or 50 years left, of natural lifespan.

I know women who co-habitated with a man or who got married for the first time at the age of 50 or 60, it's all good.  This isn't Europe in the 1200's  when people had to get married at like 18 because the average lifespan at the time was like 30 years.

[QuietRiot]

2 hours ago, basil67 said:

 

My feminist relationship advice to my daughter consists of "if you want a partner, find a good, honest man who loves you treats you well.  Love them and treat them well in return.  Don't play games and don't accept games" 

Um...you don't have to be a feminist to know this. It's not rocket science. It's not even feminist advice, just basic advice.

[basil67]

35 minutes ago, Roswell91 said:

I've noticed that men want the woman to be a domestic goddess. 

Even people I've spoken to ask how good of a cook i am and stuff. Asserting that its a woman's job to do the cooking lol.

Ah, I'm a bit of a foodie, so I'd be asking him what his specialities are.  

[basil67]

16 minutes ago, QuietRiot said:

Um...you don't have to be a feminist to know this. It's not rocket science. It's not even feminist advice, just basic advice.

Exactly.  I can't figure out why feminist advice was being demonised.

[Roswell91]

1 minute ago, basil67 said:

Ah, I'm a bit of a foodie, so I'd be asking him what his specialities are.  

Im a foodie aswell. But i usually satisfy that by eating out a lot. Lol