Giving your phone no to women may result in robocalls

[QuietRiot]

There was this thread a short time ago that blew up and instead of adding to it and it getting lost in the mix of pages and pages of posts, I figured I'd start this one as this may even be considered a stand-alone situation. 

I was once chatting with a woman on POF that lived locally. Basic profile write-up, she was age 49, but her pictures...well, she kind of looked to be in mid to late 30s. She was kind of low key looking and when we talked back and forth a bit and I asked if we could talk on the phone. Asked for her number as a man typically does (and let's not go down that debate because this post isn't relevant to that). She doesn't like to give out her number, and I said, "Well, historically, every time I gave out my number, I would mysteriously start to get robocalls". So I was hoping she'd be understanding in that, but she was not.

So now, when it comes to this kind of thing, we've reached an impasse. We stopped talking, so it's become an "I don't trust you, you don't trust me". To this day, I was not sure if she was even a real person...and I have had men who are in a conundrum trying to figure out if the women they are chatting with are actually real?

[Cookiesandough]

Yea it’s quite possible she was legit. I don’t know if robo calls are all that common on dating apps anymore. Most people have an easy number blocker( dont you have that?) and there are more affective strategies. 
 

Ive been accused of being a bot before  and tbh it’s stunning to me that some men can’t tell a real woman trying to have a real conversation vs a cam girl or a bot. I’ve seen the latter through some guys I know and the difference is night and day and pretty obvious, but I guess attraction can make people act foolishly. 

Edited June 19, 2020 by Cookiesandough

[QuietRiot]

8 minutes ago, Cookiesandough said:

Yea it’s quite possible she was legit. I don’t know if robo calls are all that common on dating apps anymore. Most people have an easy number blocker( dont you have that?) and there are more affective strategies. 
 

Ive been accused of being a bot before  and tbh it’s stunning to me that some men can’t tell a real woman trying to have a real conversation vs a cam girl or a bot. I’ve seen the latter through some guys I know and the difference is night and day and pretty obvious, but I guess attraction can make people act foolishly. 

The thing is though, when I HAD given my number...I'd never get a call...then I'd start seeing these suspicious calls from out of the blue. I had a situation prior to this where a woman asked for my #, I gave it to her, but she never actually called. Then I started getting robocalls right after. She mentioned about texting her only and not calling until she was ready...which I found strange. So I complied as she said she was too "busy" to talk on the phone. I stopped contacting her, and for the fun of it, about a week later. I texted her. Right after, I got a robocall. 

Like yourself, I have heard women say that they were accused of being bots themselves. lol 

Edited June 19, 2020 by QuietRiot

[SumGuy]

Never seen that where get robocalls after giving out my number in OLD.   Then again robocalls are a fairly regular if not common occurrence.

Is it possible it is just correlation and not causation?  Because I am having a hard time imagining a woman pretending to be interested in getting your number just to sell it for robocalls.  First, how do you even do that, second I imagine you'd get pennies, maybe a few dollars at best as such robocall places I suspect want thousands upon thousands of numbers in a data format that their robots can use.  That is, it is likely all automated and from corporate data selling and data breaches not individuals.     

[QuietRiot]

12 hours ago, SumGuy said:

Because I am having a hard time imagining a woman pretending to be interested in getting your number just to sell it for robocalls.

Umm...that's because the said woman is probably not a woman, but a scammer...possibly even a male in Nigeria or soemthing.

[SumGuy]

3 hours ago, QuietRiot said:

Umm...that's because the said woman is probably not a woman, but a scammer...possibly even a male in Nigeria or soemthing.

Again, have a hard time imagining that there is enough money in a phone number to make it worth a persons time (even a scammers) to set up such an elaborate situation to get one number, even if they are in Nigeria.  I'd really wonder about what apps or sites you use if you really think that is the case.  I can certainly see many scams going on, especially the send me money one, or fake profiles, or people using sites for prostitution, but spending such time for a phone number...to garner likely literally pennies...seems far fetched.   Scammers follow the money...spending even 10 minutes with you to get your phone number to sell to a telemarketer ain't worth it.

Believe it or not large proportion of telemarketers get their numbers "legally,"  as you likely agreed to this when you clicked some "I agree."  If your number has not been made private they can also just get it from an on-line modern day white pages.  They really don;t need to go through such contortions to get your number, which brings home the point that is why they likely only pay pennies per individual number.

[QuietRiot]

3 hours ago, SumGuy said:

Again, have a hard time imagining that there is enough money in a phone number to make it worth a persons time (even a scammers) to set up such an elaborate situation to get one number, even if they are in Nigeria.  I'd really wonder about what apps or sites you use if you really think that is the case.  I can certainly see many scams going on, especially the send me money one, or fake profiles, or people using sites for prostitution, but spending such time for a phone number...to garner likely literally pennies...seems far fetched.   Scammers follow the money...spending even 10 minutes with you to get your phone number to sell to a telemarketer ain't worth it.

Believe it or not large proportion of telemarketers get their numbers "legally,"  as you likely agreed to this when you clicked some "I agree."  If your number has not been made private they can also just get it from an on-line modern day white pages.  They really don;t need to go through such contortions to get your number, which brings home the point that is why they likely only pay pennies per individual number.

The bolded:  Plenty of Fish, which is well known for bots and scammers...since it's a free site.

[CaliforniaGirl]

On 6/19/2020 at 4:05 AM, QuietRiot said:

The thing is though, when I HAD given my number...I'd never get a call...then I'd start seeing these suspicious calls from out of the blue. I had a situation prior to this where a woman asked for my #, I gave it to her, but she never actually called. Then I started getting robocalls right after. She mentioned about texting her only and not calling until she was ready...which I found strange. So I complied as she said she was too "busy" to talk on the phone. I stopped contacting her, and for the fun of it, about a week later. I texted her. Right after, I got a robocall. 

Like yourself, I have heard women say that they were accused of being bots themselves. lol 

Okay...you had a weird red flag right off the bat. Why did you give her your number anyway? Can you see that her telling you to text and not call was already a warning that she might just be setting you up?

It's not true that it's impossible to tell bots or cam girls from genuine approaches. Way more often than not, when a person has a story about being tricked things were weird from the beginning.

Edited June 20, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl

[QuietRiot]

3 minutes ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

Okay...you had a weird red flag right off the bat. Why did you give her your number anyway? Can you see that her telling you to text and not call was already a warning that she might just be setting you up?I

It's not true that it's impossible to tell bots or can girls from genuine approaches. Way more often than not, when a person has a story about being tricked things were weird from the beginning.

I did not give my number to the last woman that tried to do this. She blocked me lol

[CaliforniaGirl]

7 minutes ago, QuietRiot said:

I did not give my number to the last woman that tried to do this. She blocked me lol

I thought you said she got your number, she wanted to text only, and you tried to contact her and started getting robocalls.

What were the robocalls, BTW? You mean basically just spam?

[LuckyM]

In famous experiments people could not tell the difference between talking to a person or a computer. It's quite common. I have heard callers who sound like machines. Robots are very advanced.