do women put too much stock in astrological signs?

[Ellener]

I do think that any self-examination is better than none...but astrological signs as relating to Babylonian and Egyptian concepts...it's interesting I guess.

I'm a Virgo, 'illustrious virgin' ( I know! ) but in Greek mythology Astraea was the last immortal to abandon the earth...Demeter watched over the harvest and cycle of life and death...Persephone became Queen of the 'underworld' in a representation of the seasons...I will say I am happiest out in nature, growing things, and nurturing, observing the changing days!

As a relationship thing I'd be interested in a man who has read about all this stuff and a relationship with someone who loves 'nature' in the way I do.

[chillii]

Actually l wasn't gonna bother butttt, my ex was ltalian and did Taro . Well in a similar vain to my gf, Taro goes back a long way in ltaly and many generations so she's not just some Westerner been listening to the stars a few yrs . And they're not only very damn good with them but take them very seriously, which was a real curse. She'd often be stressed out for wks over something the cards said especially if it was about us.

Edited June 27, 2020 by chillii

[regine_phalange]

It's fun. I like tarot too. But it may be a bit too much to reject people because of that (unless you know their whole chart 🤔)

[CaliforniaGirl]

7 hours ago, regine_phalange said:

It's fun. I like tarot too. But it may be a bit too much to reject people because of that (unless you know their whole chart 🤔)

I like tarot! I believe what it does, though...if you will...is gives you images so your subconscious can come to the forefront. The subconscious is about images, the frontal lobes are about consciousness and activity, incluiding words and speech. When you look at pictures, feelings come up. Those them zoom to the forefront of the brain (well, more or less...there's a literal electrical communication, that's what happens all over the brain) and combined with your own experiences, attitudes, and feeling of the person you're "reading for," you come up with the next logical step.

So in other words, you're really doing all the work and it's based on a whole bunch of factors that you don't consciously think about. But when you see pictures, plus symbols such as numbers (we're culturally trained to be leery of the number 13 but think of 7 as lucky, just as two examples), you deliver what your mind thinks the next logical thing would be.

The tarot unfortunately is like cold reading or general horoscopes in that (I never know how to say that...I know it's horrible grammar) you sort of fish around and then the person him/herself subconsciously reaches out to make a "match" or pattern; likewise, pretty much any card of either Arcana will have some sort of universal truth that practically anybody can find a match with, if their subconscious tries hard enough.

BUT what's fun and amazing is that this HELPS people come to *their own* conclusions and perhaps solve a problem, because without realizing it, both of you are accessing your subconscious, where things are, for all intents and purposes, simpler and more direct than conscious brain forefront though, where things can actually get muddied by details.

Plus...the cards are really pretty and there are like a zillion decks.

Just my take.

[CaliforniaGirl]

I'm halfway like my sign, halfway not, more or less; which is what anyone can expect with the flip of a coin (50/50 chances).

When I've told people who were into astrology that I am SO NOT like a huge percentage of my sign's traits, I've been told, "Your rising sign can have MORE influence than your sun sign."

So I looked up my rising sign.

It's the same as my sun sign. 😅

[QuietRiot]

On 6/24/2020 at 10:42 PM, thefooloftheyear said:

They also(a number of them anyway) believe in ghosts and psychics as well...

I dunno...Im not knocking it, but most men don't buy any of it...Seems like an easy way to con someone out of their money....

TFY

Yeah, it's typically a woman thing as I rarely see men believing in this kind of stuff as a means of finding a compatible partner. I once had to tolerate a ghost tour with a date I was with. We defiantly were not a match, but...I had noticed tons of pretty ladies on the tour. I guess there's something about mysticism that they like.

==Seems like an easy way to con someone out of their money....==

Yeah, this is the kind of a woman you don't want....a threat to your bank account because she got addicted to seeing her pyshcic. lol

[basil67]

The ghost tour really isn't comparable to someone who lets astrological signs lead their life.  I'm a history buff and a cynic and I've enjoyed ghost tours.  It's essentially hanging out in an old place at night learning about the history of the place and people who lived there.  They will refer to rumoured ghosts but it's just fun.   It's not at all a mystic thing.  

Or was this not a garden variety ghost tour?   

Edited June 29, 2020 by basil67

[K.K.]

I used to have a set of tarot cards. I got them because they were pretty and colorful and I wanted to learn how to read them. I never got that chance because a male friend I had got lit one night and said that they were from “the devil’s making” and threw them into the bonfire. So then I threw his very strappy girly looking sandals into the fire, because if girly sandals on men aren’t from the devil’s making, I don’t know what is...  

[basil67]

@K.K. That's gold!

[QuietRiot]

1 hour ago, basil67 said:

The ghost tour really isn't comparable to someone who lets astrological signs lead their life.  I'm a history buff and a cynic and I've enjoyed ghost tours.  It's essentially hanging out in an old place at night learning about the history of the place and people who lived there.  They will refer to rumoured ghosts but it's just fun.   It's not at all a mystic thing.  

Or was this not a garden variety ghost tour?   

Okay, so if someone trying to summon spirits as being part of a ghost tour really a ghost tour? So not a garden variety GT.

Edited June 29, 2020 by QuietRiot

[Trail Blazer]

Not as many put too much stock in it as they do in their religious beliefs.  But the latter goes for both sexes.  They're both as equally illogical, except astrology at least, hasn't caused millions of people to be murdered for not believing in it.

[Dis]

On 6/27/2020 at 2:20 AM, Cookiesandough said:

No I don't believe, but I think it's fun/enjoy messing w people who do. I have dated guys who have believed in it a lot. One guy I dated had pulled up in one of his many tabs an article on " how to woo *my star sign*" I can't really take ppl like that seriously xD

I can't 😂

[Angelle]

On 6/27/2020 at 4:00 PM, CaliforniaGirl said:

I'm halfway like my sign, halfway not, more or less; which is what anyone can expect with the flip of a coin (50/50 chances).

When I've told people who were into astrology that I am SO NOT like a huge percentage of my sign's traits, I've been told, "Your rising sign can have MORE influence than your sun sign."

So I looked up my rising sign.

It's the same as my sun sign. 😅

There's more to it than that, but yeah: I studied it, and then backed off for a couple of reasons. There are ways to use it in terms of relationships, predictions, and so on, but I wouldn't ditch someone over their sign, or anything like that. 

[CaliforniaGirl]

On 6/30/2020 at 8:03 PM, Trail Blazer said:

Not as many put too much stock in it as they do in their religious beliefs.  But the latter goes for both sexes.  They're both as equally illogical, except astrology at least, hasn't caused millions of people to be murdered for not believing in it.

A slight correction: astrology absolutely has caused deaths for eons. Wars have been timed by it. Enemies have been identified by such portents whether they were already enemies or not. Sacrifices were timed astrologically in culture after culture. Future threats were annihilated in both eastern and western culture even if the threat was still in its infancy. As a more recent example, Hitler was supposed to have been heavily into astrology. 

Both are forms of magical thinking and neither is really more logical than the other. Both can be interesting and can add meaning to individual lives but to not want to buy a house or marry someone because the planet's don't agree is folly, and to order others' lives based on one's beliefs is madness. Unfortunately, it has happened everywhere all throughout history. Personally I strongly believe in something spiritual but I definitely don't believe we've her identified it correctly. ETA: I meant it! LOL! Was that Freudian? I'm leaving it in.

But that's an aside...the thread is really about astrology...and as a woman I wouldn't date a man who believed in it as an influencer of people's entire lives. I also wouldn't date anyone who took his or her religion as the only correct one, with non-believers bound for fire and all that. I just can't connect that way with people who think THEIR beliefs in an invisible being is totally right, but the NEXT guy's beliefs are magical thinking. (Or hellbound.) It's all impossible stuff believed to be possible, none is superior to the rest, IMO.

[LuckyM]

I would not get too involved with someone who takes astrology seriously. The idea began in medieval times or earlier. Shakespeare mentions it in Julius Caesar. No scientific evidence at all. It's faith and much profit is made by astrologists who believe it,I assume. It is based on false generalizations. You can still date girls who like astrology no harm in that. It's chitchat. Hey I have known therapists who were no better than astrology messages

[Fox Sake]

On 7/13/2020 at 2:17 PM, LuckyM said:

I would not get too involved with someone who takes astrology seriously. The idea began in medieval times or earlier. Shakespeare mentions it in Julius Caesar. No scientific evidence at all. It's faith and much profit is made by astrologists who believe it,I assume. It is based on false generalizations. You can still date girls who like astrology no harm in that. It's chitchat. Hey I have known therapists who were no better than astrology messages

I would just like to say that: 

Believing is seeing. 

To each their own.