Is it true that men are intimidated by rich or famous women?

[mark clemson]

19 minutes ago, mark clemson said:

Theron in particular has had numerous news (if you call that news) articles posted about how she remains "dateless" but wishes for a relationship. This has gone on for several years.

I can only speculate as to whether she may have personality issues of one kind or another, e.g. attachment issues or perhaps is extremely finiky. Or perhaps she's happy alone and this is merely a publicity thing to keep some checks coming in, dunno.

TB it seems like in theory if you and your GF ever broke up you could get your chance? (Not that this is ANY kind of recommendation.)

 

[thefooloftheyear]

15 minutes ago, mark clemson said:

Theron in particular has had numerous news (if you call that news) articles posted about how she remains "dateless" but wishes for a relationship. This has gone on for several years.

I can only speculate as to whether she may have personality issues of one kind or another, e.g. attachment issues or perhaps is extremely finiky. Or perhaps she's happy alone and this is merely a publicity thing to keep some checks coming in, dunno.

TB it seems like in theory if you and your GF ever broke up you could get your chance? (Not that is ANY kind of recommendation.)

Maybe she was never the same after "John Milton" had his way with her.....😉

TFY

[Emilie Jolie]

On 7/3/2020 at 12:19 AM, ironpony said:

But I am wondering if this is really true.

I would take their experiences at face value, and not assume they were lying just because you personally would not be deterred by it. I personally see no reason to doubt their word on that.

For most people, it'll  only ever be a  hypothetical with very little chance of it becoming a reality.

But in theory, if you met and liked someone enough, and are compatible, you'd pursue a relationship with them regardless of their status or fame, I guess.

[Trail Blazer]

1 hour ago, mark clemson said:

Theron in particular has had numerous news (if you call that news) articles posted about how she remains "dateless" but wishes for a relationship. This has gone on for several years.

I can only speculate as to whether she may have personality issues of one kind or another, e.g. attachment issues or perhaps is extremely finiky. Or perhaps she's happy alone and this is merely a publicity thing to keep some checks coming in, dunno.

TB it seems like in theory if you and your GF ever broke up you could get your chance? (Not that is ANY kind of recommendation.)

Good to know, my friend.  If we go bust, I'll be all over that!  My girlfriend has a thing for Paul Rudd.  Too bad for her, he's married!  Got any goss on whether his marriage is on the rocks?  I'll pass it on to her if so! 🤣

[LuckyM]

I think most people are intimidated by famous stars and very rich m or f. If you knew that he or she loved or liked you a lot and keep relationip discreet and honest you would gladly date them. You would be taken aback yes and discover that they are egotists and not as good looking in person. But they are married!

[mark clemson]

5 hours ago, thefooloftheyear said:

Maybe she was never the same after "John Milton" had his way with her.....😉

I'm actually not sure what this refers to ?  But thanks...

[elaine567]

28 minutes ago, mark clemson said:

I'm actually not sure what this refers to ?  But thanks...

The Devil's Advocate (1997 film)

[chillii]

10 hours ago, 2.50 a gallon said:

Have you ever seen the Cheers episode, where Cliff Claven begins to date this plain Jane, that perks her up and she begins to dress and fix herself up and turns into a Fox?

Something similar happened to me, I met this gal out by the pool, first thing I noticed was that she had a great bod, covered up by a dumpy single piece swim suit.  A dumpy hair cut, kind of short, square along the line of her ears and big glasses, and she was reading the latest issue of Scientific American.  The truth was she was a total nerd, mensa genius, and was into using her brain.  The only reason she was out by the pool was she felt she needed to get the sunshine for her Vitamin D.  I was over 40 she was something like 27 and had hardly any boy friends.  She had gotten a degree from Berkley in micro-biology, on the road to being a doctor and a minor in Math, changed her mind, went back to Berkley and got a second degree in organic Chemistry, got bored with that and went back to school and had got a degree in software.  She was the head software engineer of a small software shop in Silicon Valley.  It turned out we complemented each other, she could explain to me the latest findings in Physics and astronomy and I could explain to her the latest findings in human history from early man thru the making of the new world.  She exercised at lot, 5 miles or longer walks, was the reason for a great bod.  She was all about her job.   A party for her was getting together with her nerd friends and playing chess?  Her dating history was bare, had hardly dated but a handful of men, and most of them only two of three times and the few times she had tried sex she hated it.  Even asked me what do people see in sex?   Turned out she did like sex.  About 9 months into the relationship, I had yet to meet her parents, we took weekend trip, to Carmel By The Sea.  After a night of great passion, while walking around the town window shopping, when we came across a jewelry store, she said let's go in.  Inside she told me to pick something out as she wanted to buy me something.  I'm kind of like "hunh?"  And she is looking at rings that run in the thousand of dollars.  I'm still in the "Hunh?"  She asked the owner what the most expensive ring he had and he had to go to the vault to get it.  And after he brought it out told me it I wanted it she would buy it for me.  "Hunh?"  I ended up settling on a plain gold Friendship ring she bought for a couple of hundred dollars.  That is when she told me that if we got married I would never have work another day in my life as she was she was very, very rich.  A millionaire many, many times over.  And daddy was worth hundreds of millions.  They hid their net worth by living like normal middle class people.  She was the second youngest of 4 girls.  All off her sisters were married and had grand kids for her parents, and she wanted us to marry so she could have my kids.  Her parents had given up on ever getting some from her.  Over the next 5 years a lot of pressure to get married.  I turned down all expenses paid trips to see ruin ruins of Mexico, the Bahamas, Hawaii, the Mediterranean, Alaska, I almost bit on the one, and the last one was a two week trip to Tahiti, for scuba diving.  And yes she would pay for our diving lessons. From her parents, we were offered a down payment on a million dollar house, and was told their wedding present to me would be a new pickup truck.  I had been married before, it lasted a whole six months, so was not all that interested.  And yes their money intimidated me.  What if we had gotten married, and then broke up, with her kind of money what chance would I have at getting visitation rights, I already knew I was going to move back home a thousand miles away.  How could I afford to bring them to my state and to meet their other grand parents?  Just too much money to fight, so quickly moved back home.  Even then she pursued me, flew over to see me, a couple of times, and we had plans of visiting all of the Disney lands.  But I met this long legged blonde and we have been together for almost 25 years

 

But eh , she gets 1/2 a page and every detail , and all the long legged blonde gets after 25yrs is that she's a long legged blonde . Quite funny really .

 

 

 

[ironpony]

17 hours ago, elaine567 said:

Many men like to be in control and they can't be in control if their partner exceeds them in power, influence and money.
Film stars in the main are people who are at the top of the tree and many men cannot hack that.


 

Well I can only speak for my own experience but I dated a woman once who was all about the man having control and power over everything in the relationship, she wanted an alpha-male with all the money and all the power.

Now maybe this seems like a good idea to men when they hear it, but in the years of that long term relationship, it put a lot of pressure on me to be the in control and in power one in the relationship, and I felt she expected too much of me as a result, of having that impression.

So does it make sense, that maybe the more power and control the man has, the more pressure that man is under to keep up the support, compared to the other way around?  Not that I want to be lazy either of course, I am just saying, why is is to bad if the woman has more money?

[basil67]

12 hours ago, mark clemson said:

Theron in particular has had numerous news (if you call that news) articles posted about how she remains "dateless" but wishes for a relationship. This has gone on for several years.

Is Jennifer Anniston still pregnant?   With the exception of interviews which have been approved by the interviewee, I work on the assumption that the stuff published about stars is fake.   

[chillii]

 

2 hours ago, ironpony said:

Well I can only speak for my own experience but I dated a woman once who was all about the man having control and power over everything in the relationship, she wanted an alpha-male with all the money and all the power.

Now maybe this seems like a good idea to men when they hear it, but in the years of that long term relationship, it put a lot of pressure on me to be the in control and in power one in the relationship, and I felt she expected too much of me as a result, of having that impression.

So does it make sense, that maybe the more power and control the man has, the more pressure that man is under to keep up the support, compared to the other way around?  Not that I want to be lazy either of course, I am just saying, why is is to bad if the woman has more money?

 

Yeah whata load of absolute bullshyt , couldn't stand a woman like that myself . To me really on her part that's just a weak cop out , basically she just wants him to do and be everything , and just what does she do , anything ?. l like a woman with a brain, life and creativeness of her own, zero interest in somebody feeding of me.

 

 

 

Edited July 5, 2020 by chillii

[ironpony]

33 minutes ago, chillii said:

 

 

Yeah whata load of absolute bullshyt , couldn't stand a woman like that myself . To me really on her part that's just a weak cop out , basically she just wants him to do and be everything , and just what does she do , anything ?. l like a woman with a brain, life and creativeness of her own, zero interest in somebody feeding of me.

 

 

 

Oh okay, but do a lot of men want the brainless, lifeless woman then if that is what was meant by men wanting more control?

[chillii]

 

Doubt it , l never hear of men wanting more control , here a marriage is a partnership. Even on ls , wherever guys there are from , mostly US l think, they all at least seem to expect her to work and pay her own way if nothing else.

Never known a guy interested in a useless woman but eh , sure there's a few around.

Edited July 5, 2020 by chillii

[Trail Blazer]

3 hours ago, ironpony said:

Well I can only speak for my own experience but I dated a woman once who was all about the man having control and power over everything in the relationship, she wanted an alpha-male with all the money and all the power.

Now maybe this seems like a good idea to men when they hear it, but in the years of that long term relationship, it put a lot of pressure on me to be the in control and in power one in the relationship, and I felt she expected too much of me as a result, of having that impression.

So does it make sense, that maybe the more power and control the man has, the more pressure that man is under to keep up the support, compared to the other way around?  Not that I want to be lazy either of course, I am just saying, why is is to bad if the woman has more money?

Generally speaking, if a man's really rich, then he'll feel more entitled to a trophy wife.  He can afford her, so he can enjoy the arm candy without the pressure to constantly "reach" to maintain it.

From speaking to guys/buddies et al over the years, I've found that most guys want a woman who earns money, who isn't lazy and entitled, who contributes constructively across the board.

Guys want that balance where she's contributing enough that the financial burden doesn't rest solely on his shoulders, but not too much more than him (if at all) where he cedes control to her and she calls the shots.

Both parties in a relationship need to feel like their efforts are valued.  I don't think men value women's financial contribution the same as women do men's.  Being too grateful implies a certain level of dependence.  Men don't want to feel like they are dependent in a domain which they're "supposed to" be prevalent in.

My first wife was a bit older than me and earned more than I did.  Whilst it had its pros, it certainly also had its cons.  Partly though, that came down to how she was individually.  I'm sure there's plenty of examples of women earning significany more than their parter/husband, where everything is good.

 

[chillii]

Actually l remembered this tonight.

ln my 20s l had a filthy rich no 1 in the world and quite hot, not red hot but she was very nice , tennis player show some def' interest once.  My sister said your fkg crazy why didn't you go for it. But like l said earlier . Although a tennis players life would probably be quite bearable as apposed to a movie stars or singer.

But eh , gaga could still have her way with me if she asked nicely haha

Edited July 5, 2020 by chillii

[snowcones]

I think what they mean is that men don't make the first move or ask them out.

[chillii]

14 hours ago, snowcones said:

I think what they mean is that men don't make the first move or ask them out.

Men aren't as silly as women think , l dunno know anyone who'd ask out someone famous , why would you how are ordinary people suppose to fit into their lives . l still say anyway that they'd be meeting 100s of people in their lives and business , what do they care if everyday men don't ask them out. lt's amazing at even that though how so many of them are still single or have nightmare relationship history , but very understandable none the less.

[mark clemson]

On 7/4/2020 at 9:11 PM, basil67 said:

 With the exception of interviews which have been approved by the interviewee, I work on the assumption that the stuff published about stars is fake.   

Fair enough - that is generally a pretty reasonable assumption I think since certainly some of it is. No idea about veracity of the Theron stuff, but I have seen it repeatedly for a few years now occasionally on feeds.

[mark clemson]

On 7/5/2020 at 12:03 AM, ironpony said:

Oh okay, but do a lot of men want the brainless, lifeless woman then if that is what was meant by men wanting more control?

I don't know about "brainless" or certainly "lifeless". There is a certain set (both men AND women) that gravitate towards male-dominated relationships. For example the "Taken in Hand" crowd, which are from what I understand into the more or less "traditional" monogamous version of this.

Some have religious or other cultural views and others probably just like it.

There is a certain set (significantly smaller I assume, but still out there) that gravitate towards female dominated relationships as well.

The simple truth is that not everyone actually wants a relationship of equals. People who aren't like that might find it hard to understand, which makes sense actually. I find it hard to understand foot-fetishists, but they're certainly out there and there's IMO no reason to denigrate them over it.

[snowcones]

10 hours ago, chillii said:

Men aren't as silly as women think , l dunno know anyone who'd ask out someone famous , why would you how are ordinary people suppose to fit into their lives . l still say anyway that they'd be meeting 100s of people in their lives and business , what do they care if everyday men don't ask them out. lt's amazing at even that though how so many of them are still single or have nightmare relationship history , but very understandable none the less.

Then you're confirming exactly what I said... that most men are intimidated by them (because they are famous).  They were most likely commenting on it, probably because somebody asked "Why are you single?".  Which I'm sure single celebrities get asked more often than normal single folks.  Personally, I think it's foolish to speculate (let alone comment publicly on it) on why one is single, because no one really knows the exact reasons and it's mostly speculation.   I believe a large part of people getting together IS due to luck anyway. 

[nospam99]

There's a difference between intimidated and not wanting a) a jet set lifestyle or b) the expectation that she's going to cheat with every Brad, Chad, Ryan, Harry, or George. The other 'tag' besides rich and famous is over the top gorgeous. I'd date one. But since I want LT and exclusive, she'd have to convince me that she did, too. BTW, Dolly Parton, who is a bit 'old' even for me, appears to be and have been an example of a woman who's a good spouse to a low visibility guy.

[Mrin]

I'm not. I've dated independently wealthy women. I'm not intimidated by them but I will say there are some challenges about lifestyle meshing together. 

[chillii]

14 hours ago, snowcones said:

Then you're confirming exactly what I said... that most men are intimidated by them (because they are famous).  They were most likely commenting on it, probably because somebody asked "Why are you single?".  Which I'm sure single celebrities get asked more often than normal single folks.  Personally, I think it's foolish to speculate (let alone comment publicly on it) on why one is single, because no one really knows the exact reasons and it's mostly speculation.   I believe a large part of people getting together IS due to luck anyway. 

 

Didn't confirm anything being smart enough to be practical is nothing to do with intimidation you've completely got the bull by the horns , the rest, whatever. Why would l care what they do let alone their love life.

Edited July 7, 2020 by chillii

[basil67]

I see where you're coming from @chillii.   My reasons for not wanting to dating a famous male are exactly the same - entirely practical.   It's not about intimidation at all.