Citing age as a reason for settling 'I'm not getting any younger!

[basil67]

7 hours ago, QuietRiot said:

I just I found it funny how someone like her figured that she could do better physically. Men do the same too

Are you aware that for many women, sexual attraction starts in the brain?   For this type of woman, if there's no emotional connection - there will be no physical attraction.    Doesn't matter how hot he is, there will be no physical attraction.

Over the years, I've found the odd movie star/rock star attractive....then he spoke without a publicist directing his words and my attraction deflated with the speed of a stuck balloon.  Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson, Morrissey - I'm looking at you.  

[Azincourt]

Picky is what men who lack success in dating call women they desire but can't get,  either because the women are young and attractive and the dude's middle-aged and out of shape, his hairline took a permanent holiday up north in Canada, and he doesn't have the money to get these women to pay him any attention, so he tries to cancel her out by insulting her, ''oh I don't want you anyway, you are so picky you probably have a terrible personality anyway''.

It's always about someone else's fault, never theirs. Either women are too picky, or they're gold-diggers, or all of the women around the world are being hit on by handsome hollywood actors.

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Are you aware that for many women, sexual attraction starts in the brain?   For this type of woman, if there's no emotional connection - there will be no physical attraction.    Doesn't matter how hot he is, there will be no physical attraction.

Depends on her age. We talking about a 50 year old woman or a 20 year old woman? Very rarely does sexual attraction for women that young start in the brain, it's more likely in the guy's abs and biceps, but that's easy enough for most men to acquire if they don't make a habit of eating a bag of doritos every 5 minutes 7 days a week.

Women do tend to care less about a man's looks once they hit their 30s, but that's because there are more pressing matters to attend to, like marriage, co-habitation, children, living expenses, mortgages, utilities bills, the kid's dentist's bill etc etc, and a man's abs ain't gonna get up and find the money to pay for all of that now is it, that's why you have beautiful women from Europe marrying much older, much less attractive men who happen to be billionaires I guess.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Azincourt

[Woggle]

Convicted murderers like Ted Bundy get love letters because they are good looking so yes for some people physical is all that matters. 

[Azincourt]

14 minutes ago, Woggle said:

Convicted murderers like Ted Bundy get love letters because they are good looking so yes for some people physical is all that matters. 

Ted  Bundy got love letters because he was severely mentally ill, and women who are emotionally broken, have awful families, or went through traumatic events that shaped their tragic lives at an early age, went on to develop an attraction to violent men, because these men reminded them of their own fathers and brothers.

Charles Manson was a diminutive man who could barely reach a table, dude was more scrawny than a 19 year old catwalk fashion model, and his face was half-covered by a forest of fur for most of the time.

He had a cult of crazy women who'd have orgies with him and would kill for him.

I take it he had this because he was what, good-looking? 

There's nothing wrong about a woman selecting a boyfriend or a husband because of his looks, just like there's nothing wrong with a woman picking her mate over his wealth. I was dumped when I was a young man by a 19 year old Victoria Secret's model so that she could get married and have kids with a 60 something 5'2'' Danny Devito. She wanted financial security. She wanted stability.  Can't blame her for going after a dude who brings home tens of millions of euros after taxes.

All I can provide her is with healthy, strong, beautiful babies, but me, paying for them?

Nah, I'd rather save up the money and buy a Lamborghini one day. That's why I was dumped. I was way too young to become a father at the age of 24. Hell, I'm in my 30s and I am still too young. If I ever become a father it will be when I'm in my 70s or 80s.

 

Edited September 6, 2020 by Azincourt

[basil67]

8 hours ago, Weezy1973 said:

Ok, but I suppose I was thinking all things being equal, the person who had an education preference is picketer than someone that doesn’t. 

So a woman commenting that her priorities have changed as she’s “not getting any younger” is just accepting what is a fact. If she wants to be in a relationship, she’s going to have to increase the percentage of men she’s willing to date by decreasing  her pickiness. 

But all things aren't equal.   A woman who wants a man who is kind, fun and who shares her intellectual curiosity is far less picky than a women who wants a man who is kind, fun, tall, handsome, financially established, generous, plans dates meticulously, needs to travel and shares her intellectual curiosity.    The latter is what I am referring to when I say "picky'.

And I would say that those women who grow up and decide to get real about what they are looking would be far better adjusting their expectations in the more shallow criteria.

8 hours ago, Weezy1973 said:

But this is the data we have. Hypergamy isn’t new by any means. Women have shown preferences for men with equal or higher education and incomes for a long time. Fairly soon educated women are going to outnumber educated men by an almost 2:1 margin if current trends hold up. Add that to marriage happening later and later in life, and you can see why many women are now just choosing to stay single! 

Women haven't 'shown preference' for men with higher incomes for a long time.  Rather, their inability to earn an equal wage, own property or get a loan FORCED them to get a man who has an income to support her.  Just as he needed a woman to care for him and his home.   In recent times, women have gained the option of choice - and one of those choices she can make is to have a man who's her intellectual equal.   

This is why I don't compare women from different eras on their choices today..

[basil67]

17 minutes ago, Woggle said:

Convicted murderers like Ted Bundy get love letters because they are good looking so yes for some people physical is all that matters. 

Funny that you should write this not long after I write about how attraction to a good looking man can be busted like a bubble when I find out he's an arse.

[Woggle]

Women might earn their own money and do very well these days but many still want a man that earns more than them. 

[Azincourt]

8 minutes ago, basil67 said:

But all things aren't equal.   A woman who wants a man who is kind, fun and who shares her intellectual curiosity is far less picky than a women who wants a man who is kind, fun, tall, handsome, financially established, generous, plans dates meticulously, needs to travel and shares her intellectual curiosity.    The latter is what I am referring to when I say "picky'.

And I would say that those women who grow up and decide to get real about what they are looking would be far better adjusting their expectations in the more shallow criteria.

Sure they are. 

People have a tendency to date people and to marry people who are like them. Same age range, same body build, same looks, same educational background, same income bracket, and for the most part they're happy enough with what they get.

A woman isn't picky for wanting a kind, fun, tall, handsome, financially established etc etc, because women like that aren't exactly average in looks. These are women who are as physically attractive and as appealing as a mate as the men we are talking about. I've never met an average-looking woman, or a woman from a middle-class background who was holding out for a Giorgio Armani TV ad model. There are women like that, sure, but most men will never come across women like that.

Those women can afford to have high stakes.

So why worry about what beautiful women want?

Although there's nothing wrong about wanting something more.  There are men and women who get to date people out of their league because they dared to dream and to hope, even if there's nothing special about the man interested in a 19 year old Alessandra Ambrosio genetic twin whose daddy would spend thousands of dollars a month on shoes, then more thousands a month on clothes, then more tens of thousands of month on make-up, and yet she went on to date a working class man because he went up to her in the middle of 100 students and with the teacher staring at him, asked for her number, and that showed he had some fortitute going on for him, and beautiful women sure love a dauntless man.

 

8 minutes ago, basil67 said:

Women haven't 'shown preference' for men with higher incomes for a long time.  Rather, their inability to earn an equal wage, own property or get a loan FORCED them to get a man who has an income to support her.  Just as he needed a woman to care for him and his home.   In recent times, women have gained the option of choice - and one of those choices she can make is to have a man who's her intellectual equal.   

This is why I don't compare women from different eras on their choices today..

I wouldn't say that.

Most people are broke. 8 out of 10 Americans carry debt. College debt. Healthcare debt. Credit Card debt. Mortgages, expensive rent, cost of living rising every year, wages stagnated for the last 10 years, it's nearly impossible for people to buy a home without help in the middle of a small town in Nevada let alone in Los Angeles, and it's easier to end up homeless than it for someone to go blind by looking at the sun.

Political crisis every few months, the world's economy falling apart every couple of years. And that's in the US.

In say Greece you can easily get a super hot 19 year old woman to sleep with you if you have a job, any job, because of how broke nearly every man is, and if you have your own house and you don't need help paying it off, with most Greek young men still living with their parents, and will do so until their 40s and 50s, if they ever get out that is - you can get yourself a fine looking young bride eager to make a baby with you.

There are literally thousands of women doing sex work these days, because of how desperate everyone is. Strippers, professional escorts, and even women who sell their used panties online, and on and on, because staying alive these days cost a lot of money, so it's not really surprising to see women marrying rich old men, or unattractive young men who happen to have a daddy who makes a few millions a month.

[basil67]

Just now, Woggle said:

Women might earn their own money and do very well these days but many still want a man that earns more than them. 

And so?

[Azincourt]

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Women might earn their own money and do very well these days but many still want a man that earns more than them. 

 

And many men still do well enough with women and still would cheat on their loving wives for a shot at sleeping with the Jenner sisters. I know I would if it wasn't for how much a man can get his skin fleeced by an attorney lol by cheating on his wife, if  I was married, so what does it matter what many women would do?

[basil67]

1 minute ago, Azincourt said:

A woman isn't picky for wanting a kind, fun, tall, handsome, financially established etc etc, because women like that aren't exactly average in looks. These are women who are as physically attractive and as appealing as a mate as the men we are talking about. I've never met an average-looking woman, or a woman from a middle-class background who was holding out for a Giorgio Armani TV ad model. There are women like that, sure, but most men will never come across women like that. 

Have you heard the term "punching above their weight"?   The term wouldn't exist if it wasn't a common thing.

 

1 minute ago, Azincourt said:

I wouldn't say that.

Most people are broke. 8 out of 10 Americans carry debt. College debt. Healthcare debt. Credit Card debt. Mortgages, expensive rent, cost of living rising every year, wages stagnated for the last 10 years, it's nearly impossible for people to buy a home without help in the middle of a small town in Nevada let alone in Los Angeles, and it's easier to end up homeless than it for someone to go blind by looking at the sun.

Political crisis every few months, the world's economy falling apart every couple of years. And that's in the US.

In say Greece you can easily get a super hot 19 year old woman to sleep with you if you have a job, any job, because of how broke nearly every man is, and if you have your own house and you don't need help paying it off, with most Greek young men still living with their parents, and will do so until their 40s and 50s, if they ever get out that is - you can get yourself a fine looking young bride eager to make a baby with you.

There are literally thousands of women doing sex work these days, because of how desperate everyone is. Strippers, professional escorts, and even women who sell their used panties online, and on and on, because staying alive these days cost a lot of money, so it's not really surprising to see women marrying rich old men, or unattractive young men who happen to have a daddy who makes a few millions a month.

I can't see how any of this relates to today's woman wanting an intellectual equal.

[Woggle]

4 minutes ago, basil67 said:

And so?

You were saying that women haven't shown a preference for men with higher incomes for a while and I am just pointing out that yes they do.

[basil67]

4 minutes ago, Azincourt said:

 

And many men still do well enough with women and still would cheat on their loving wives for a shot at sleeping with the Jenner sisters. I know I would if it wasn't for how much a man can get his skin fleeced by an attorney lol by cheating on his wife, if  I was married, so what does it matter what many women would do?

Nah, I think that's just you.   Most men have more sense than to mess with vapid Hollywood types.

[basil67]

Just now, Woggle said:

You were saying that women haven't shown a preference for men with higher incomes for a while and I am just pointing out that yes they do.

The thread is about women seeking men who have a similar education level.  This should mean that they are a similar calibre of both intelligence and earning capacity.

[Azincourt]

15 minutes ago, basil67 said:

Have you heard the term "punching above their weight"?   The term wouldn't exist if it wasn't a common thing.

 

It is a common thing, tho, but it depends on the enviroment we're talking about, and it depends on what the person they get with is seeking for.

It depends on demographics, too. There are men pulling way above their weight because there are very few (attractive)men in the places they meet women,  like college, or women who work with a majority of women and the men who are there are middle-aged married men, or women who live in very small towns or villages, which makes hot women lower their standards, and the same goes for men who live in places with few women going around.

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I can't see how any of this relates to today's woman wanting an intellectual equal.

Intellectual equal?

lady, most women aren't reciting Virginia Woolf while sipping on British imported tea while browsing through international newspapers to figure out what's going on in the world.

We're talking about 18-30 year old women here, not baby boomers. These women have far more earthly desires than looking for an intellectual equal, and honestly women who put such a big importance on a man's intelligence ain't exactly what many men are looking for in a romantic partner.

Is she hot?

Does she think I'm hot?

is she young?

Does she have a high sex drive?

I'M SOLD BRO.

if I want to have an intellectual conversation I'll call the teachers I had to deal with back in college, I paid them for it.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Azincourt

[basil67]

@Azincourt  Of course you're sold.  You're a bartender who doesn't want a relationship and has never mentioned getting an education.

Edited September 6, 2020 by basil67

[Azincourt]

15 minutes ago, basil67 said:

Nah, I think that's just you.   Most men have more sense than to mess with vapid Hollywood types.

You mean most men can't afford to get with an attractive woman because they either have the same level of fitness of a 80 year old man, or because they are poor?

Jackpot!

[Azincourt]

Just now, basil67 said:

@Azincourt  Of course you're sold.  You're a bartender.

And what's wrong with bartenders?

Only doctors are worth dating and marrying, eh?

[basil67]

No, most men don't have some weird erotic thing going on for vapid Hollywood types.

[basil67]

Just now, Azincourt said:

And what's wrong with bartenders?

Only doctors are worth dating and marrying, eh?

Plenty of educated men pulled beers while at uni, so nothing wrong with a bartender per se.   Educated men who wish to marry and have a family tend to want woman who are more than just HOT.   And they don't say "I'm sold BRO" like a teenager.   

However, you don't want any of this life, so it makes sense that all you care for is HOT.   But you don't represent all men

[Azincourt]

11 minutes ago, basil67 said:

No, most men don't have some weird erotic thing going on for vapid Hollywood types.

Nah. 

You're talking about baby-boomers, men your own age. Men my own age and younger have something called a sex drive, and a woman's ability to speak 3 foreign languages doesn't really ignite that sex drive, not unless it's a bonus alongside Rachel Weiz's looks in the Mummy movie, but even where it concerns baby boomers:

Trump married an intellectual?

Boris Johnson married an Intellectual?

Jair Bolsonaro married an intellectual?

Putin married an intellectual?

Remember, guys are interested in dating women, women these men want to see naked, and women who desire sex, and have a desire to look good for their men.

Check out what retired American men are up to in Brazil, China, Thailand, Spain, Greece, Argentina etc.

I'm sure they're looking for their intellectual equal.

Dunno why they bring bottles filled with blue pills with them.

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Plenty of educated men pulled beers while at uni, so nothing wrong with a bartender per se.   Educated men who wish to marry and have a family tend to want woman who are more than just HOT.   And they don't say "I'm sold BRO" like a teenager.   

Ah, so as long as a man is college-educated he can work menial jobs and he's still a worthy mate. I got 2 bachelor degrees and a masters  for the price of a bag of peanuts in Europe, guess that makes me better than most men who never got the chance to attend college. I've never put those degrees to use because I never saw the point in doing that and I've never been into that whole ''people who are college educated are better people than those who are not.

Elitism is cool, when we're talking about marrying the daughter of the President, either than that it's rather snobby.

Very few women who are hot are college-educated.  Sara Sampaio, for example, she has a high school diploma only, if I'm not mistaken. That didn't keep her from getting a multi-millionaire with mutiple college degrees.

A college educated guy can easily afford a hot women, as there are qualities to a good wife that have a lot less to do with her college education and more to do how she is as a potential mother and as wife, although I'm doubting the guy's smart if he's keen on getting married, we're talking about men in my generation right?

The divorce rate in Spain is at 70% for first marriages and 90% for first marriages in Portugal within 4 to 7 years of marriage. It's hilarious.

What's wrong about saying I'm sold, bro?

Geez, lady, you remind me too much of my 90 year old grandmother.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Azincourt

[Woggle]

Obama married an intellectual and he has one of the few political marriages that I think is a good model.

Bill Gates married an intellectual and they seem to actually have a good marriage.

[basil67]

2 minutes ago, Woggle said:

Obama married an intellectual and he has one of the few political marriages that I think is a good model.

Bill Gates married an intellectual and they seem to actually have a good marriage.

And I'm sure your wife isn't just good looks.    And I suspect that she didn't marry you for your income.

Edited September 6, 2020 by basil67

[Woggle]

True on both ends but she is extremely good looking. 

[basil67]

Just now, Woggle said:

True on both ends but she is extremely good looking. 

Would you have married her if she was dumb as a box of hammers?  If her only attribute was beauty?   I doubt it.