do most fathers don't ever want their daughters to get married to a guy someday?

[basil67]

@SuperHeroMan the dude starts the video by saying that he's about to try and scare his daughter's new boyfriend.   He made it very clear that it was a prank.

[SuperHeroMan]

On 10/5/2020 at 6:54 PM, basil67 said:

@SuperHeroMan the dude starts the video by saying that he's about to try and scare his daughter's new boyfriend.   He made it very clear that it was a prank.

Still I heard a reason why a lot of fathers don't ever want their daughters to find love someday is because they don't want them to ever have sex. I heard the reason for that has to be because they don't want them to lose their innocence. 

Edited October 9, 2020 by SuperHeroMan

[Lookingforlasting]

17 minutes ago, SuperHeroMan said:

Still I heard a reason why a lot of fathers don't ever want their daughters to find love someday is because they don't want them to ever have sex. I heard the reason for that has to be because they don't want them to lose their innocence. 

OK does that apply to sons also?

[GorillaTheater]

39 minutes ago, SuperHeroMan said:

Still I heard a reason why a lot of fathers don't ever want their daughters to find love someday is because they don't want them to ever have sex. I heard the reason for that has to be because they don't want them to lose their innocence. 

"A lot" seems like a pretty big exaggeration. 

This topic really seems to fascinate you.

[basil67]

5 hours ago, SuperHeroMan said:

Still I heard a reason why a lot of fathers don't ever want their daughters to find love someday is because they don't want them to ever have sex. I heard the reason for that has to be because they don't want them to lose their innocence. 

What kind of father would want his daughter to have a life without love or her own family if that's what she desires?   To be hobbled in a childlike state for the duration of her life.

Edited October 9, 2020 by basil67
grammar

[Wiseman2]

On 9/14/2020 at 7:07 PM, SuperHeroMan said:

So most fathers (and brothers too) actually do want their daughters/sisters to find love someday and get married? 

No . They want them to join a convent so the human race goes extinct.

[SuperHeroMan]

11 hours ago, Lookingforlasting said:

OK does that apply to sons also?

No. The King of the Hill episode Square Peg gives a perfect example of this double standard. 

 

Here's what Bobby said to his father (Hank Hill) when he started talking to him after he wouldn't let him attend Sex Ed Class:

Bobby - I just wanted to say that you don't have to worry about me cuz I'm never going to have sex.

Hank  - Oh Bobby, now don't say that.

Bobby - I thought that's what you wanted. 

Hank - Well yes, if you were my daughter. But your my son.

Bobby - Why is it not ok for girls, but it's ok for boys?

Hank - It's called the double standard, Bobby. Don't knock it, we got the long end of the stick on that one. 

 

 

[SuperHeroMan]

6 hours ago, basil67 said:

What kind of father would want his daughter to have a life without love or her own family if that's what she desires?   To be hobbled in a childlike state for the duration of her life.

Well I heard some fathers online say that they wish that their daughters would use artificial insemination or something like that to get pregnant instead of them having sex if they ever wanted to have children someday when they are grown up. So these fathers are basically saying that even if their daughters are married or not, they would still wish that they would use something like artificial insemination to get pregnant instead of having sex. And it also seems like those fathers don't ever want their daughters to date or get married someday neither. 

 

Those fathers however did creep me out a lot.

[siren8272]

Lets be real this "joke" is rooted in patriarchy.... often fathers feel entitled to control their daughters bodies....one example that is famous is when TI (the rapper) went on a podcast and told the world he takes his daughter yearly to the OBGYN for "hymen checks"....she was 18 at the time ...he embarrassed her then got mad when the WORLD including porn hub commented on his comments then the fool got mad bc his other daughter whose TWENTY FOUR didnt call and tell him she was pregnant(golly gee wonder why). The real issue is a lot of fathers were DOGS to women and they think by acting like this it will keep them from running into dudes JUST LIKE THEM....how bout dads just put their daughters on game, teach about safe sex and talk about having healthy relationships. Stop gate keeping your daughters body it wont work ...if they wanna have sex they will and you cant stop them *shrugs...

Before anyone ask the reason patriarchy is at the root is because patriarchy tells men they are entitled to control women's bodies....running off all boyfriends is beyond concern its disturbing then they wonder why when they get grown they end up with crappy dudes like TI and other fathers who were not kind to women.

[SuperHeroMan]

46 minutes ago, siren8272 said:

Lets be real this "joke" is rooted in patriarchy.... often fathers feel entitled to control their daughters bodies....one example that is famous is when TI (the rapper) went on a podcast and told the world he takes his daughter yearly to the OBGYN for "hymen checks"....she was 18 at the time ...he embarrassed her then got mad when the WORLD including porn hub commented on his comments then the fool got mad bc his other daughter whose TWENTY FOUR didnt call and tell him she was pregnant(golly gee wonder why). The real issue is a lot of fathers were DOGS to women and they think by acting like this it will keep them from running into dudes JUST LIKE THEM....how bout dads just put their daughters on game, teach about safe sex and talk about having healthy relationships. Stop gate keeping your daughters body it wont work ...if they wanna have sex they will and you cant stop them *shrugs...

Before anyone ask the reason patriarchy is at the root is because patriarchy tells men they are entitled to control women's bodies....running off all boyfriends is beyond concern its disturbing then they wonder why when they get grown they end up with crappy dudes like TI and other fathers who were not kind to women.

I heard that T.I. praised his 14 year old son for having sex. What's wrong with him? What kind of parent would be happy that their son or daughter is starting to have sex that young? 14 is too young! 

 

Also, have you ever heard of Purity Balls? They are very creepy! 

A purity ball is a formal dance event typically practised by some conservative Christian groups in the United States. The events are attended by fathers and their teenage daughters in order to promote virginity until marriage. Typically, daughters who attend a purity ball make a virginity pledge to remain sexually abstinent until marriage. Fathers who attend a purity ball make a promise to protect their young daughters' "purity of mind, body, and soul." Proponents of these events believe that they encourage close and deeply affectionate relationships between fathers and daughters, thereby avoiding the premarital sexual activity that allegedly results when young women seek love through relationships with young men. 

The practice has faced criticism from women's organizations.

[jspice]

1 hour ago, SuperHeroMan said:

I heard that T.I. praised his 14 year old son for having sex. What's wrong with him? What kind of parent would be happy that their son or daughter is starting to have sex that young? 14 is too young! 

 

Also, have you ever heard of Purity Balls? They are very creepy! 

A purity ball is a formal dance event typically practised by some conservative Christian groups in the United States. The events are attended by fathers and their teenage daughters in order to promote virginity until marriage. Typically, daughters who attend a purity ball make a virginity pledge to remain sexually abstinent until marriage. Fathers who attend a purity ball make a promise to protect their young daughters' "purity of mind, body, and soul." Proponents of these events believe that they encourage close and deeply affectionate relationships between fathers and daughters, thereby avoiding the premarital sexual activity that allegedly results when young women seek love through relationships with young men. 

The practice has faced criticism from women's organizations.

What is your point??

[SuperHeroMan]

9 minutes ago, jspice said:

What is your point??

That men who obsess over their daughter's sex lives are creepy and sexist. 

[basil67]

1 hour ago, SuperHeroMan said:

That men who obsess over their daughter's sex lives are creepy and sexist. 

Yes. But they aren’t representative of the average father.   This is why people make jokes about them

[SuperHeroMan]

2 hours ago, basil67 said:

Yes. But they aren’t representative of the average father.   This is why people make jokes about them

They aren't the the representative of the average father? I thought that's how a lot of fathers felt since I did read a lot of comments from fathers online wishing that their daughters would use artificial insemination or something like that to get pregnant instead of them having sex if they ever wanted to have children someday when they are grown up. So they were basically saying that even if their daughters were married or not, they would still wish that they would use something like artificial insemination to get pregnant instead of them having sex. And many of those fathers also did seem like they don't ever want their daughters to date or get married someday. 

People make jokes about those type of fathers? 

[jspice]

1 hour ago, SuperHeroMan said:

They aren't the the representative of the average father? I thought that's how a lot of fathers felt since I did read a lot of comments from fathers online wishing that their daughters would use artificial insemination or something like that to get pregnant instead of them having sex if they ever wanted to have children someday when they are grown up. So they were basically saying that even if their daughters were married or not, they would still wish that they would use something like artificial insemination to get pregnant instead of them having sex. And many of those fathers also did seem like they don't ever want their daughters to date or get married someday. 

People make jokes about those type of fathers? 

You’re determined to believe rubbish you’re reading online. 
People are telling you they don’t feel that way but you insist. 
 

You’re the creepy one here. It’s like you want it to be true. 
Your obsession with it isn’t normal. 

[SuperHeroMan]

14 minutes ago, jspice said:

You’re determined to believe rubbish you’re reading online. 
People are telling you they don’t feel that way but you insist. 
 

You’re the creepy one here. It’s like you want it to be true. 
Your obsession with it isn’t normal. 

I don't want that to be true at all. I'm not really obsessed with this, so don't say I'm creepy. I'm just trying to figure out how most fathers feel about their daughters dating and getting married someday because of the overprotective father stereotype and because of what a lot of fathers say online. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by SuperHeroMan

[jspice]

21 minutes ago, SuperHeroMan said:

I don't want that to be true at all. I'm not really obsessed with this, so don't say I'm creepy. I'm just trying to figure out how most fathers feel about their daughters dating and getting married someday because of the overprotective father stereotype and because of what a lot of fathers say online. 

Fathers on this thread already told you. 
Your insistence on this really IS creepy. 

[SuperHeroMan]

5 minutes ago, jspice said:

Fathers on this thread already told you. 
Your insistence on this really IS creepy. 

I understand that. I'm just trying to make sure that, that's not how most fathers actually think. 

[Lookingforlasting]

17 hours ago, SuperHeroMan said:

Well I heard some fathers online say that they wish that their daughters would use artificial insemination or something like that to get pregnant instead of them having sex if they ever wanted to have children someday when they are grown up. So these fathers are basically saying that even if their daughters are married or not, they would still wish that they would use something like artificial insemination to get pregnant instead of having sex. And it also seems like those fathers don't ever want their daughters to date or get married someday neither. 

 

Those fathers however did creep me out a lot.

Creepy I agree.  my mother was molested her entire childhood by her father and  this reminds me of a story she told me once where she brought a boyfriend home to meet the family in the father had a caniption  so now whenever I hear things like this I think of that scenario.

Edited October 10, 2020 by Lookingforlasting

[basil67]

9 hours ago, SuperHeroMan said:

 

People make jokes about those type of fathers? 

Yes.  The ‘evidence’ you’ve been posting are jokes.  King of the Hill - your most recent reference is a comedy.  So the conversation there is also a joke.

[SuperHeroMan]

7 hours ago, basil67 said:

Yes.  The ‘evidence’ you’ve been posting are jokes.  King of the Hill - your most recent reference is a comedy.  So the conversation there is also a joke.

Just one more question and I'm done with this topic. So even this clip from this movie is just an exaggeration from real life and most fathers actually do want their daughters to find love someday? 

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by SuperHeroMan

[basil67]

 It’s not even an exaggeration of real life.  Real life fathers want their daughters to grow up, marry good men and live their own lives.  

Also, have a look at the clip and you’ll see a laughing emoji stuck on the front of it.  This means it’s a joke.

[Ellener]

I got married age 19, against my father's wishes, he disliked my boyfriend. And turned out to be right- my husband hit me and I threw him out and divorced him. He was the love of my life though, my childhood sweetheart I guess, and we mistakenly got back together several times over the years and had a child together. 

He could never change his abusive behaviour though, and it's the one regret of my life I gave my son a crappy dad. They no longer have contact. My son can't stand his father, calls him a hypocrite.

I do think many men would treat a woman ( or child ) as a possession as @Azincourtsays, but I would not allow it for myself. And I raised my own son to never hit a woman or child.

I told my husband when I was pregnant that if he ever hit my son I would kill him! He never did, but he hurt him anyway by being so selfish and uncaring. And the last time he hit me I threw him out the next day.

Women have to be brave in this world. It's not been created equal.

 

 

[SuperHeroMan]

2 hours ago, Ellener said:

I got married age 19, against my father's wishes, he disliked my boyfriend. And turned out to be right- my husband hit me and I threw him out and divorced him. He was the love of my life though, my childhood sweetheart I guess, and we mistakenly got back together several times over the years and had a child together. 

He could never change his abusive behaviour though, and it's the one regret of my life I gave my son a crappy dad. They no longer have contact. My son can't stand his father, calls him a hypocrite.

I do think many men would treat a woman ( or child ) as a possession as @Azincourtsays, but I would not allow it for myself. And I raised my own son to never hit a woman or child.

I told my husband when I was pregnant that if he ever hit my son I would kill him! He never did, but he hurt him anyway by being so selfish and uncaring. And the last time he hit me I threw him out the next day.

Women have to be brave in this world. It's not been created equal.

 

 

I'm sorry that happened to you. I had an abusive dad, so I understand how it feels to to be abused. 

I agree that parents need to teaching their sons how to respect women a lot more than they do and teach them to never hit a woman or child. 

 

Also, I believe that the reason why there's a lot of guys who only use girls for sex is because they are not raised right.

I think it's mostly the fathers at fault since many of them encourage their sons to date and don't make a big deal about the amount of girls they sleep with, but it's the complete opposite with their daughters.

These fathers are both selfish and hypocritical! They're ok with their son dating and sleeping with someone else's daughter and potentially hurting her or/and causing her problems, but it's not ok when someone else's son does that with their daughter. They only care when it's their daughter and not someone else's is.

By doing that, fathers are just giving the message that men should be praised for the amount of sex that they have, while women while be shamed for it, and that's wrong.

So parents need to be focusing a lot more on teaching their sons about respecting women and to never use them for sex when dating them, and they need to be teaching them more about boundaries when dating or asking girls out. 

Edited October 13, 2020 by SuperHeroMan

[Ellener]

2 hours ago, SuperHeroMan said:

fathers are just giving the message that men should be praised for the amount of sex that they have, while women while be shamed for it, and that's wrong.

I know what you mean but it's not how I've lived my life. 

It did ruin the sex life with my husband the fact he hit me, and years after when he met his next wife he told me that was all my fault, I have a problem with intimacy. I said 'did you tell your wife about the abuse' and he hadn't of course. And I've never had problems with anyone else!