Local pub crawl getting major flack for obvious reasons

[QuietRiot]

Imagine that, a pub crawl in Florida, proudly flaunting their holiday pub crawl crowd photo, indoors, and maskless on social media. Close quarters. A neighboring bar was promoting that photo via their page...giving kudos to said origin of the photo.

 Someone even reported it to a news outlet. Even the bar manager was mocking commenters. Although there are no laws in said county, this indeed makes the city look bad and many have said they'll be boycotting the biz.

[d0nnivain]

So never patronize those establishments.   People get to make stupid choices that others disagree with.  It's the nature of free will & a free country.  

[QuietRiot]

30 minutes ago, d0nnivain said:

So never patronize those establishments.   People get to make stupid choices that others disagree with.  It's the nature of free will & a free country.  

You have to more than just "never patronize" them. In fact action was taken, they were reported to news outlets, and the local health dept. so they'll be on th e news later. Good thing.

Also, they can spread it to other people outside of those establishments.

Edited December 11, 2020 by QuietRiot

[FMW]

The problem is that others' free will affects all of us during this pandemic.  Locally a video from last weekend showed a gathering of 100+ people, almost all maskless, at a music concert.  The place is somewhere close but outside of my City and I would never go there.  However it did make me angry.  The COVID positive numbers are so high right now at least a few of the people attending these type of events are likely to have the virus and infect others. Those people then go spread it to their families and others they have contact with.  

More positive cases mean we're all more likely to be exposed to someone with it.  Our local hospitals are already at capacity because of the wide spread, so if anyone has any emergency that would put them in need of hospital care (accidents, non-COVID medical emergencies) they are certainly affected by the shortage of space and doctors/nurses to care for them.

So unfortunately just NOT patronizing these businesses doesn't mean we all don't pay for their foolishness.     

 

[d0nnivain]

@FMW I agree with you but if the state leadership insists on a foolish course, all a concerned person like QuietRiot can do is stay away.   That video in Florida is going to make more peopel want to go there, not stay away.   

[QuietRiot]

3 minutes ago, FMW said:

The problem is that others' free will affects all of us during this pandemic.  Locally a video from last weekend showed a gathering of 100+ people, almost all maskless, at a music concert.  The place is somewhere close but outside of my City and I would never go there.  However it did make me angry.  The COVID positive numbers are so high right now at least a few of the people attending these type of events are likely to have the virus and infect others. Those people then go spread it to their families and others they have contact with.  

More positive cases mean we're all more likely to be exposed to someone with it.  Our local hospitals are already at capacity because of the wide spread, so if anyone has any emergency that would put them in need of hospital care (accidents, non-COVID medical emergencies) they are certainly affected by the shortage of space and doctors/nurses to care for them.

So unfortunately just NOT patronizing these businesses doesn't mean we all don't pay for their foolishness.     

 

Right, this seems to be the Covid-nayser's go-to response for reports like this.

[Fletch Lives]

Well, that's the problem - some people take the pandemic seriously, and others don't.......and a bar has to be open to survive. Hopefully the vaccine will be distributed timely and this problem will be over.

[QuietRiot]

15 minutes ago, Fletch Lives said:

Well, that's the problem - some people take the pandemic seriously, and others don't.......and a bar has to be open to survive. Hopefully the vaccine will be distributed timely and this problem will be over.

Sure, they can be open, but they should ban pub crawls during a pandemic. That's just asking for trouble.

Edited December 11, 2020 by QuietRiot

[Wiseman2]

Make America sick again? 😷🤒😱

[FMW]

8 hours ago, Fletch Lives said:

a bar has to be open to survive

Open doesn't mean packing people in shoulder to shoulder without masks.  

The guy I'm involved with is a musician and plays clubs on a weekly basis.  Many of my friends are musicians and so I totally support their opportunities to earn a living, touring is definitely not an option, but everyone's trying to keep live music alive - while keeping themselves and their audiences alive as well.  I appreciate the bars/clubs in my little world that are working hard to stay open and follow social distancing, masking and sanitizing guidelines.  Of course they could be making more money if they were at regular capacity, but everyone has had to make adjustments and sacrifices over the past year.

[QuietRiot]

9 hours ago, FMW said:

Open doesn't mean packing people in shoulder to shoulder without masks.  

The guy I'm involved with is a musician and plays clubs on a weekly basis.  Many of my friends are musicians and so I totally support their opportunities to earn a living, touring is definitely not an option, but everyone's trying to keep live music alive - while keeping themselves and their audiences alive as well.  I appreciate the bars/clubs in my little world that are working hard to stay open and follow social distancing, masking and sanitizing guidelines.  Of course they could be making more money if they were at regular capacity, but everyone has had to make adjustments and sacrifices over the past year.

I was having a conversation with a friend, and to be honest, the restaurant/bar business is a risky business. They say most restaurants that open up brand new, don't make it past the first year. The nature of the business itself is pretty risky.

[basil67]

Why isn’t any of he outrage aimed at the people who are doing the pub crawl...potentially sharing the virus from venue to venue to venue?

[Wiseman2]

17 hours ago, QuietRiot said:

Sure, they can be open, but they should ban pub crawls during a pandemic. That's just asking for trouble.

Some states simply pull their liquor license if they can't get them to comply with distancing and max patron rules.

Those are the states where cases are stabilizing somewhat or at least not seeing exponential new cases.

[QuietRiot]

2 minutes ago, basil67 said:

Why isn’t any of he outrage aimed at the people who are doing the pub crawl...potentially sharing the virus from venue to venue to venue?

Of course there was outraged aimed at them, the comments reflected that, too. In fact, the restaurant was even deleting the comments and BLOCKING people from commenting.

Edited December 12, 2020 by QuietRiot

[Ellener]

8 hours ago, Wiseman2 said:

Some states simply pull their liquor license

People have been fined and license suspended here ( just a few days I think not permanent closure )

I've only got one indoor event planned, it's tomorrow and at a church with registration, social distancing and all-mask. I'm still not sure it should go ahead! even with all possible precautions. 

 

 

[FMW]

Contact tracing for our City has pointed to large gatherings without masks or distancing as the source of the majority of our COVID cases right now, and the majority of those are people in their 20s and 30s.  COVID fatigue has set in for everyone and some aren't responding in responsible ways.  

I do go out, but only to places I feel comfortable.  And I have some days I don't feel comfortable even stepping outside my door.  Stressful times.