World Peace Guy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 A ex-friend was in a similar situation a few years ago, which gave me time to think about it. Ordinarily, my first impulse would be to say no. Likewise, if I was supposed to have sex for a million dollars. Either way, same answer. I would say that is the correct answer, if the money is to be used for selfishness. However, there are things that the money can be used for that would change the answer. I have a plan that will end poverty and bring about World Peace, and in so doing, save mankind by preventing nuclear war. A million dollars would very likely be enough to put my plan into action and save mankind. It is not enough to be 100% sure of success. Probably around 70% sure or so. About 10 million dollars would make it around 95% sure. Anyway, saving mankind is something I'd gladly die for and kill people for if it was needed. So yes, I would be willing to sacrifice my marriage for that, and risk my children being permanently emotionally damaged and stuff. Better damaged than dead in WW3. My ex-friend said no, when he was asked if he'd make a baby for about 2 million dollars. He doesn't have a plan for World Peace, but he does work with helping the poor. One could help a whole lot of poor people with that money too. Still, no where near as important. The reason why he's an ex-friend, is because he chose not to be my friend anymore, because I told him that my wife decided to divorce me. I had a long conversation with him about all the reasons why he is wrong in that. I even told him that the situation is basically like the Good Samaritan story, where I'm the one who is lying in pain by the side of the road, and he is one of the ones who walked by on the other side of the road, not wanting to get his hands dirty. As Jesus said, he's not a neighbor, and therefore not worthy. I also asked him, if God gave him a choice, between going to Heaven and ending poverty, which would he choose. This is a guy who's live work is to provide safe drinking water to the poor. He said he'd choose going to Heaven. Notice where the conflict of interest is here? He does not actually love God, or mankind or the poor. His primary motivation is not to help the poor, but rather it is to get himself into Heaven. So he can become a traitor to God, to mankind, and to his friends, because of his primary goal is purely selfish. Worse yet, I gave him $2000 to buy land, to establish an income source, for him to use to provide safe drinking water to the poor. He's been calling me a "partner" ever since. So to simply disassociate with me, is a lot like stealing from me. Unfortunately, this kind of behavior is very common is overly religious "christians" and probably people of other religions as well. Also, if a person was to use a million dollars to start a business, and end his slavery of working for others, that would be something to think about as well. Extremely risky, so it probably wouldn't be a wise decision, but a very understandable decision. Working a slavery job really drags a person down and can lead to desperation. Link to post Share on other sites
World Peace Guy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I'm curious what other people would think of these other variants as well. 1. The original question. 2. If they'd allow it, if they had a plan that they believe would achieve World Peace, and could do it with that money? 3. If they'd allow it, for the purpose of using the money to help the poor. 4. If they'd allow it, for the sake of starting a business, so you don't have to work a slavery job all your life. 5. If they'd allow it, for some war time goal, to help stop Hitler or something. And, of course, for each of these, if they were the ones having sex, rather than their spouse. Assuming they are married, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiseman2 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, World Peace Guy said: 2. If they'd allow it, if 3. If they'd allow it, for the purpose of 4. If they'd allow it, for the sake of 5. If they'd allow it, for some None of the above, sorry. Not sure what the 'world peace' theme is? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Clockwork Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 2/2/2021 at 7:27 PM, usa1ah said: I think that would be the wife’s decision to make. I don’t think a husband can tell his wife to do it or not. If my wife was to do it, at least I would get half in the divorce. So why get married if you don't think a husband - or a wife - has the right to say that they don't want you sleeping around? On 2/3/2021 at 12:26 AM, 5x5 said: I hope not. My wife and I are married. That doesn’t mean we have abandoned our autonomy or own each other as property. So it is entirely up to my wife, who she chooses to have sex with or not. Just as it is also entirely up to me, who I choose to have sex with or otherwise. Good luck on that one...............you'll need it Link to post Share on other sites
understand50 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 All, In today times, you do not own your wife's body. So you can not sell it, or "allow" someone to have sex with her. In a monogamous marriage, both side agree to faithful to each other. Cheating is the breaking of that Vow. So the question is, for a million dollars, would you agree to let your wife not be faithful, break her vows? Would this happen before hand? or after the deed? Let look at both. Well, if I found out that my wife has cheated, and I was offered a million to try and make things right, well may accept. Sex is a done deal. May help a little, but we would still need to decide if we were going to reconcile, and we would have to work to make the reconciliation work. Same thing we have been doing for the last 9 years. In this case, we just would not have have the money issue piles on top of everything else. So, next side, and probably the one that matches the original question. So, some guy offers us a million, if he can sleep with my wife. Would I agree to this? Would she? Up side it would solve our retirement money issues. Down side, I do know the pain of cheating. She knows the pain of her actions. In many ways this would be very much like a discussion of if we would go to a open marriage. For those that are considering that, I think the question is moot, as you are agreeing to seeing other people, anyway, why not get paid for it? At this time, and I think for all time, both her and I are not for a open marriage. So I think the answer would be no. On the other hand, a million, would allow a much easier life, so I can not say never. But, it would be a joint decision between us. In general, I think this would depend on how well off a couple is. If you are well off no, but if you are poor, I think there would be much more pressure. On more scenario, lets say your wife was a actor, and was offered a large part, but with a sex scene, that while everyone say it will not be "true" sex, you know it will and from other actors involved you hear it will. Would you want your wife to take that part? My two cents..... Link to post Share on other sites
usa1ah Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 19 hours ago, Clockwork said: So why get married if you don't think a husband - or a wife - has the right to say that they don't want you sleeping around? Good luck on that one...............you'll need it Unless it is otherwise discussed, it is a given that a marriage is monogamous. I shouldn’t have to talk about this in my marriage. If my wife came to me saying she has accepted a proposal to get any amount of money that is her choice. She has put a price tag on our relationship. The moment she said ok our marriage ended. I could rant and rage all I wanted to and it wouldn’t change the fact that she was ok selling herself. I could talk with her about why, it still wouldn’t change the fact........ No matter what I do, the relationship we had would be over. So why go through the drama of hashing it out. Because in the end we have kids, we will be around one another for the rest of our lives. No need to say things that can’t be taken back and make a bad situation worse. As to sleeping around, that is something completely different then what the post asked. My wife and I talked and made the decision early on in our relationship that it would be just the two of us. It hasn’t been mentioned again by either of us. If she asked about it we would talk about it. If she insisted on opening up the relationship that would be the end of the relationship. I would tell her I hope you find what your looking for, it just won’t be as my wife. Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Slippers Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 No. It's a sacred bond. No amount of money could justify breaking it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
5x5 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 22 hours ago, Clockwork said: Good luck on that one...............you'll need it Why? I've enjoyed a splendid marital relationship of almost 22 years with my wife. Who I have been happily fornicating with very frequently, for close to 25 years so far. Yet that doesn't negate the fact that the only person I control is myself. Likewise whether you like it or not, you don't control what anyone else chooses to do either (whether you are married to them or otherwise). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wiseman2 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 8:27 PM, Clockwork said: Or would you let someone go to 2nd base or 3rd base with your wife for less money? Do you need the money that badly that you want to go from spouse to pimp? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Clockwork Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 11:27 PM, 5x5 said: Why? I've enjoyed a splendid marital relationship of almost 22 years with my wife. Who I have been happily fornicating with very frequently, for close to 25 years so far. Yet that doesn't negate the fact that the only person I control is myself. Likewise whether you like it or not, you don't control what anyone else chooses to do either (whether you are married to them or otherwise). No one can stop another person from doing such things of course, because if that were the case no one would cheat for instance. But yeah, you are married to that person you very much have a say in whether or not they can do this. Your voice matters for sure on the issue. That's the point I was making, you may not be able to stop someone from doing this, but you should have the input on it. On 2/6/2021 at 3:45 AM, Wiseman2 said: Do you need the money that badly that you want to go from spouse to pimp? Nah, wouldn't be worth it. Link to post Share on other sites
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