Author Hot Coco Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 Well, that's just your opinion. And you know what they say about "opinions". Personally, I happen to feel that my marriage is very special....to me and to my husband anyway. A long-standing, committed relationship can take on additional meaning in terms of lasting comfort and partnership. It then becomes it's own unique entity. There's He and there's I....but also, there's Us. Partnership does not necessarily have to negate Individuality. It can enhance it, when you are adding to your partner's daily life rather than subtracting from it. I don't own him....but he's still MINE:love:, by his own vow. Our marriage contract is binding, unless one of us breaks it. We do belong to each other in those terms. Couldn't have said it better myself! And YES, it IS special! I'm sorry, el mejor, that you think I'm wrong. I think I'm right and YOU'RE wrong! I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. And you might want to ask yourself why you think he's the best...I mean he belongs to his wife not to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Sami_D Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 So wrong! So many replies and posts come from emphaty. Many people here come from different walks of life = different opinions = different views = different experiences. People can relate or cannot. Saying that empathy is in short supply around here is not fair I don't think... Do you mean on LS in general, or on the OM/OW boards in particular. I was referring to the latter. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 I always did get it. Coco, your the one who does not get it. Married people split up their belongings and money when splitting and so do room mates. So what. You think being married is such the iron clad thing the be all end all, something special. IT IS NOT. You are still saying they "belong" to each other. Not true. And you are STILL WRONG. So are you saying that being married is no different than being roomates? Wow! You're actually buying the crock of sh-t that he's handing you? Link to post Share on other sites
elmejor Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Couldn't have said it better myself! And YES, it IS special! I'm sorry, el mejor, that you think I'm wrong. I think I'm right and YOU'RE wrong! I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. And you might want to ask yourself why you think he's the best...I mean he belongs to his wife not to you. coco what are you talking about? My main point is that spouses DONT BELONG to each other. The word belong means 'to own' in english. The fact that you cannot admit your wrong doesn't make you right. You are still wrong. The fact that you think you can own another person is scary too. But, whos this "he' your talking about? I think he is best, what? Maybe you thought your at a differnt thred. But just remember the rule, <YOU CANT OWN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING ON THIS PLANET> Maybe you wish you could, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 coco what are you talking about? My main point is that spouses DONT BELONG to each other. The word belong means 'to own' in english. The fact that you cannot admit your wrong doesn't make you right. You are still wrong. The fact that you think you can own another person is scary too. But, whos this "he' your talking about? I think he is best, what? Maybe you thought your at a differnt thred. But just remember the rule, <YOU CANT OWN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING ON THIS PLANET> Maybe you wish you could, sorry. Remember this rule: HE'S TAKEN. HE'S NOT YOURS. HE BELONGS TO HIS WIFE! Comprende? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 READ AND LEARN! Do not be a fool into thinkng that he's yours. Well, that's just your opinion. And you know what they say about "opinions". Personally, I happen to feel that my marriage is very special....to me and to my husband anyway. A long-standing, committed relationship can take on additional meaning in terms of lasting comfort and partnership. It then becomes it's own unique entity. There's He and there's I....but also, there's Us. Partnership does not necessarily have to negate Individuality. It can enhance it, when you are adding to your partner's daily life rather than subtracting from it. I don't own him....but he's still MINE:love:, by his own vow. Our marriage contract is binding, unless one of us breaks it. We do belong to each other in those terms. Link to post Share on other sites
elmejor Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Ok, one more time, Coco. What are you talking about? Who is he and why do I "want" him? By the way, do you yet understand about how you cant OWN somebody? Cause I dont think you do! Couldnt resist mentioning this yet again, since you CANNOT ADMIT YOUR WRONG ha ha....are you putting booze in your coco? Im not saying its a bad idea or anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Ok, one more time, Coco. What are you talking about? Who is he and why do I "want" him? By the way, do you yet understand about how you cant OWN somebody? Cause I dont think you do! Couldnt resist mentioning this yet again, since you CANNOT ADMIT YOUR WRONG ha ha....are you putting booze in your coco? Im not saying its a bad idea or anything. Look, if you don't like me, leave my thread. You obviously don't understand that people CAN and DO belong to one another. They AGREE to belong to one another when they take vows. I thought LJ articulated that beautifully. Now, go back and read it again until you understand it. Very funny about the coco but there's nothing in my coco but coco (unfortunately!) Link to post Share on other sites
elmejor Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Look, if you don't like me, leave my thread. You obviously don't understand that people CAN and DO belong to one another. They AGREE to belong to one another when they take vows. I thought LJ articulated that beautifully. Now, go back and read it again until you understand it. (unfortunately!) Well Im sure alot of wives would like it if this were true, but it isnt true. If my friend and I agree that we are the King and Queen of Spain, yes we agree, but that still doesnt make it true. You see, marital property is all property bought, earned, won,etc during the marriage. People aren't property. You cant just make up things, like spouses BELONG TO each other, and expect people who know better to agree with you. You are still wrong. Reality isnt such a bad thing, you know. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Well Im sure alot of wives would like it if this were true, but it isnt true. If my friend and I agree that we are the King and Queen of Spain, yes we agree, but that still doesnt make it true. You see, marital property is all property bought, earned, won,etc during the marriage. People aren't property. You cant just make up things, like spouses BELONG TO each other, and expect people who know better to agree with you. You are still wrong. Reality isnt such a bad thing, you know. No, reality is WONDERFUL. My H gave me his heart and I have him mine. We AGREED to belong to each other and to no one else (as lovers and as a married couple) Now, let me ask you this. Do you have kids? Don't know if you do but if you do they are YOUR kids. They BELONG to you and if someone kidnaps them, they are TAKING what BELONGS to you! Did you know you can now sue people who mess with your spouse? Doesn't that tell you that there's a component there of belonging to someone? You're an OW aren't you? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 By the way, you're King and Queen of Spain analogy, although amusing, was ridiculous! Link to post Share on other sites
elmejor Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 No, reality is WONDERFUL. My H gave me his heart and I have him mine. We AGREED to belong to each other and to no one else (as lovers and as a married couple) Now, let me ask you this. Do you have kids? Don't know if you do but if you do they are YOUR kids. They BELONG to you and if someone kidnaps them, they are TAKING what BELONGS to you! Did you know you can now sue people who mess with your spouse? Doesn't that tell you that there's a component there of belonging to someone? You're an OW aren't you? Children as property now? You are confusing custody with ownership. No, children are not property either. Do you no that children can become emancipated? Just like husbands can divorce wives? Im very sorry the laws are not to your liking, but stating something that is false over and over doesnt make it so. Who am I? I am royalty, thats who I am. Dont matter who I am. Im only debating an open/shut matter that really is very black/white. That is whether a wife owns her husband and children. The answers are no, and no. She does have alot of things she can do to make these people do what she wants, if controlling others is her thing, and she can pretend shes anyone she wants, just cant take it to court, thats all. And I didnt make the laws. So its not my fault. I gotta go find some tequila now. Link to post Share on other sites
newbby Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Just curious. How were you "tricked?" Also, the marriage isn't REALLY over just because they tell you that. If he's still living with W and/or not divorced...it's not over. In your case, was he still living with W? Was he divorced yet? If he was still with her and not divorced, I don't see how you were "tricked." But maybe your situation was "different." Look, all the way around it's a situaion that stinks. And believe me, I can see how you can get "hooked" but none of us were really "tricked" unless you genuinely thought he was divorced and wasn't living with W. That's the ONLY situation I can think of where you could really have been "tricked." You may have been gullible and naive but not "tricked." because he lied. that was trickery. whether i was gullible or naive or not is irrelevant, i just said i was tricked. hot coco i have read alot of your posts and it has become very obvious to me that you are sooo angry at the op, because you yourself are the ws. you want to blame the op cause it makes you feel better about yourself. this is why you come out with ridiculous statements like the op "steals" the ws. do you prefer to think of yourself as a stolen object? rather than somebody who chose to have an affair? Link to post Share on other sites
erika2610 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 No, reality is WONDERFUL. My H gave me his heart and I have him mine. We AGREED to belong to each other and to no one else (as lovers and as a married couple) Now, let me ask you this. Do you have kids? Don't know if you do but if you do they are YOUR kids. They BELONG to you and if someone kidnaps them, they are TAKING what BELONGS to you! Did you know you can now sue people who mess with your spouse? Doesn't that tell you that there's a component there of belonging to someone? You're an OW aren't you? Where do you come up with this? Nobody belongs to anybody else. I don't BELONG to my parents. Why do you seem so hostile? Calm down. Your heart may belong to your husband, but you're not his property. I dunno where ya get that. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Children as property now? You are confusing custody with ownership. No, children are not property either. Do you no that children can become emancipated? Just like husbands can divorce wives? Im very sorry the laws are not to your liking, but stating something that is false over and over doesnt make it so. Who am I? I am royalty, thats who I am. Dont matter who I am. Im only debating an open/shut matter that really is very black/white. That is whether a wife owns her husband and children. The answers are no, and no. She does have alot of things she can do to make these people do what she wants, if controlling others is her thing, and she can pretend shes anyone she wants, just cant take it to court, thats all. And I didnt make the laws. So its not my fault. I gotta go find some tequila now. SHOW ME where I said children or spouses are PROPERTY? I never did. When someone says "my children" "my husband/wife" it implies that they BELONG to them. If not why do people say "my?" As for emancipation...laws vary from state to state I think but I know of NO state where a 6 year old for example can be emancipated. Nice try. Enjoy the tequila! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Where do you come up with this? Nobody belongs to anybody else. I don't BELONG to my parents. Why do you seem so hostile? Calm down. Your heart may belong to your husband, but you're not his property. I dunno where ya get that. Is that the best you can do? Very weak arument. Oh, and I'm not hostile, sorry to burst your bubble. Some of us are having an intelligent adult debate. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 because he lied. that was trickery. whether i was gullible or naive or not is irrelevant, i just said i was tricked. hot coco i have read alot of your posts and it has become very obvious to me that you are sooo angry at the op, because you yourself are the ws. you want to blame the op cause it makes you feel better about yourself. this is why you come out with ridiculous statements like the op "steals" the ws. do you prefer to think of yourself as a stolen object? rather than somebody who chose to have an affair? HELLOOO?! I AM the OP? So I'm mad at myself? You say that it's become obvious why I'm so angry at the OP...huh? Well, it made me laugh anyway. Yeah, I'm VERY angry at myself. Oh, and sorry, I guess I haven't hung around here enough..what's a WS? OH, and newbby, look up the definition of "tricked" (by the way, were you treated too? A little Halloween humor for ya! ) Doesn't being tricked mean you didn't KNOW beforehand that he was married? I mean that happens but I didn't think that was the case with you and I told feel like going back and re-reading. It was painful enough the first time! No, nobody stole me. We all make our choices so not sure how you twisted my words to mean that. Remember, OW/OM relationships are ALL tricks and almost NO treats! Happy Halloween! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 About all this "stealing" nonsense. Can you guys please start another thread on it. You've hijackeck my thread. That wasn't my topic. Stick to the topic or start your own. It's really boring already. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
nosybear819 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 So..at the risk of sounding stupid - what's the OP? Um...other person maybe? I dunno I been trying to figure it out Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 So..at the risk of sounding stupid - what's the OP? Um...other person maybe? I dunno I been trying to figure it out I'm laughing Nosy because I always thought it meant Original Poster but on a thread I started someone told me today that I hated the OP and kept bashing the OP (or words to that effect.) And I was like huh? I thought I WAS the OP! I was bashing and hating myself? So who knows? But I still think it means Original Poster and that person was using it Other Person. What I want to know is what's a WS???? Link to post Share on other sites
TheDiva Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I'm laughing Nosy because I always thought it meant Original Poster but on a thread I started someone told me today that I hated the OP and kept bashing the OP (or words to that effect.) And I was like huh? I thought I WAS the OP! I was bashing and hating myself? So who knows? But I still think it means Original Poster and that person was using it Other Person. What I want to know is what's a WS???? WS= Wayward Spouse. OP can stand for both. Hot Coco quit hating on yourself! <sarcasm, sorry couldn't resist> Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Wayward spouse huh? Hmmm, well ok. Call me that if you want to. Diva, I don't know WHY I keep attacking and bashing myself on these posts! I just can't help myself! Sometimes I just say things that are SO out there and I have to come back and set myself straight. I mean where do I get off thinking that my H belongs to me! And he doesn't own me I can go out and have anyone I want! Vows? What's that? And you know what? Being the OW is really a great thing. I mean just think about it. It's ALL treats with no tricks! HA HA Well...there might be a "few" tricks but it's a LOT of treats too! Well, now that I think of it, the MM gets all the treats and the OW gets the treats. Hmmm...let me go thing about this for awhile. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Hot Coco Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 I meant the MM gets all the treats and the OW gets the tricks..making the MM her "trick.":eek: Link to post Share on other sites
nosybear819 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 okay so we got that OP thing cleared up Now at the risk of sounding twice as stupid what's a wayward spouse? Link to post Share on other sites
TheDiva Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Sorry I couldn't get back sooner, got stuck working on a project. Then there was that thing to dress up and get candy. The children I mean. A wayward spouse is simply what the cheating spouse is called, normally by the (BS) Betrayed Spouse. The OW gets tricked, while MM gets treats, never looked at it quite like that but I have to say I agree! Link to post Share on other sites
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