Is it bad to not care about what other people think?

[ironpony]

I've often tried to get two jobs, but they always conflict with one another, and I always end up having to choose one.  How do other people manage to do it?  Do they just have more influence on their employers, and are able to schmooze their employers to work different hours?

[Happy Lemming]

5 minutes ago, ironpony said:

Another thing is my parents tell me it's a bad idea to pay rent and I should save up for a place to own because then I am not wasting rent money, which could be used to by a place I own.  Do they have a point?

I would think you should try to live on your own in a (month to month) lease rental, so you can learn if you can do it and how you feel living on your own.  This will be a new experience for you.

If all goes well and you are doing great in your rental (after about a year or so), then possibly think about purchasing a home.

[ironpony]

Oh okay.  How long would I have to do that for though, before purchasing a home?  I guess another thing is, I thought it would be easier to make the feature first before moving out, because then I do not have the added pressure of living on my own, while making the movie.  Does it make sense how making the movie would be easier without that added pressure, or no?

[Happy Lemming]

6 minutes ago, ironpony said:

 How do other people manage to do it? 

I had very few conflicts when working two jobs.  I worked evenings or every other weekend on my second job.

I can only think of one time where my daytime employer (supervisor) got "snippy" with me because I couldn't work overtime, as had to get to my evening employer.  She didn't write me up, but if she had I would have taken the matter to the HR dept and if that didn't work, I would have discussed the matter with the Dept of Labor in my state.

 

 

[ironpony]

Oh okay.  Every time I tried to take a different job, the times always conflict.  I don't think I will be able to find two jobs where they don't and feel I have to prepare for if that doesn't happens, since I wasn't able to make it happen before.  But if I cannot find a second one that doesn't conflict, should I still move out anyway, even if it means more money being spent on rent?

[Happy Lemming]

4 minutes ago, ironpony said:

Oh okay.  How long would I have to do that for though, before purchasing a home?

I would say if you make it a year on your own with no major issues, then talk to your parents and ask for advice on purchasing a home.

6 minutes ago, ironpony said:

I guess another thing is, I thought it would be easier to make the feature first before moving out, because then I do not have the added pressure of living on my own, while making the movie.  Does it make sense how making the movie would be easier without that added pressure, or no?

You need to let go of this movie making idea until you have proven you have the skills to handle life's day to day issues/problems.

Did you read the post written by @basil67??  You really need some basic life skills and problem solving abilities before you attempt to tackle a HUGE project like making a movie.

[Happy Lemming]

2 minutes ago, ironpony said:

 But if I cannot find a second one that doesn't conflict, should I still move out anyway, even if it means more money being spent on rent?

I think you need to speak to someone and actually find out what is available (month to month rentals) before you start worrying yourself about finding a second job and the possibility of scheduling conflicts.

[ironpony]

Oh okay, well I stll feel I have to attempt to make the movie anyway, even if I try to live on my own.  So it's not going to be live on my own and see how it goes first. The movie making is still going to happen though.  Even my gf said to me I have to do it otherwise it will always bother me and I will regret it if I don't.  Does she have a point there?  I just feel I can't not do it though, and still have to no matter what happens.

[Happy Lemming]

6 minutes ago, ironpony said:

Even my gf said to me I have to do it otherwise it will always bother me and I will regret it if I don't.  Does she have a point there? 

Is she going to pay for it??  Its quite easy to make suggestions with other people's money/life savings...

[ironpony]

No she is just saying I should make the decision and do it, since it's what I really want to do.  I could try making the movie for 20K maybe because then I am not spending near as much, and it won't be such a big loss if I don't make it back, if that's better.  And maybe funders would be more open to funding if they didn't have fund near as much therefore.

Edited August 28, 2021 by ironpony

[basil67]

Not to mention that girlfriends tend to say what others want to hear.   And besides, she's not much more than a child when it comes to life experience.   

[ironpony]

But what she said seeemd to be correct that I will keep on regretting it if I don't do it.  That's how I have been feeling this whole time.  She is correct it seems there.

[basil67]

1 minute ago, ironpony said:

No she is just saying I should make the decision and do it, since it's what I really want to do.  I could try making the movie for 20K maybe because then I am not spending near as much, and it won't be such a big loss if I don't make it back, if that's better.

When you can come up with a business plan of how to make the movie for $20K, only then should you make a start.  At the moment, you're all dreams and no concrete plans.

[basil67]

1 minute ago, ironpony said:

But what she said seeemd to be correct that I will keep on regretting it if I don't do it.  That's how I have been feeling this whole time.  She is correct it seems there.

Does she understand that you don't actually know how to make it happen?  This is the problem with getting advice from a 21yo girlfriend.

Edited August 28, 2021 by basil67

[Happy Lemming]

1 minute ago, ironpony said:

No she is just saying I should make the decision and do it, since it's what I really want to do.  I could try making the movie for 20K maybe because then I am not spending near as much, and it won't be such a big loss if I don't make it back, if that's better.

How far do you think you could get with a $20K budget??  Have you researched what you can and can't purchase/rent/people you can hire/insurances, etc. with $20K?? 

 

[ironpony]

I don't know.  She said she felt I could do it and feels that my skills and tools seem to be in place, judging from what I have done so far.  She is judging as someone who has not made a movie before, but she says that I underestimate myself, and that I have more good skills than I think.  I haven't planned out the money so far, so I guess she is going by everything else I planned out, the script, the storboards, the shot list, the cinematography style, and the music planning so far.

Edited August 28, 2021 by ironpony

[Happy Lemming]

1 minute ago, ironpony said:

I don't know. 

And there in lies the problem... You don't know.  And your girlfriend does not know.

3 minutes ago, ironpony said:

 

3 minutes ago, ironpony said:

  I haven't planned out the money so far...

And that is the number one factor in any project. 

[ironpony]

Well I mean when it comes to taking risks on goals, is there anyway one can know and you don't know until you try?  How am I suppose to be psychic and know how everything will turn out, when trying to achieve a goal?

[basil67]

She's missing out the most important part: The decision making and planning skills you require to have this dream become a reality.   

What you have are artistic skills, but making a feature film into a success requires a whole lot more than that.   

[basil67]

(removed)  I'm repeating myself

Edited August 28, 2021 by basil67

[ironpony]

Okay, well I feel I need someone to help in the producing area.  What about an accountant even, could they help, and they do not cost as much compared to hiring a producer?  I just feel I cannot do every job though, and still need help on some of them.

[Happy Lemming]

5 minutes ago, ironpony said:

Well I mean when it comes to taking risks on goals, is there anyway one can know and you don't know until you try? 

The people that achieve their goals have building blocks and previous smaller successes to draw upon.

 

[basil67]

2 minutes ago, Happy Lemming said:

The people that achieve their goals have building blocks and previous smaller successes to draw upon.

 

Indeed.  CEO's don't start at the top

[ironpony]

But this is where I feel conflicted, because I feel I am not goint to achieve goals if I have to rely on smaller successes.  If you want to achieve something you have to do it.  I just don't get how other people can live by this whole, only do it, if you have more conveniences to help you out.  In order to get it done you have to try.  Unless I am missing something?

[basil67]

@ironpony at this point, you have no plans whatsoever.  So start making plans.  Work out exactly who and what you need to make this a success and then do a business plan and budget for it all.   When you have this step completed and know that you can fund it, you will be ready to start your film.  

But all this talk without a plan of action is just dreams and fantasy.