Guy I am dating is suffering from ED and wants to be alone.

[Skittle2021]

5 minutes ago, glows said:

That's understandable but what's worse is telling yourself to wait for his call or text or telling yourself that he will come around. You could be getting to know someone else who values you and wants to spend time with you.

I felt like I would be abandoning him in his time of need if he is suffering from anxiety. I was confused because I didn't know where this break up came from. we had just talked about how he wanted to stay exclusive when I asked him if he needed solace or was interested in someone else. he denied it all and said his feelings for mw haven't changed. Once it came time to see me again I got this message. It was cruel and mean.

[Skittle2021]

1 hour ago, d0nnivain said:

OK.  As long as you know that he's bad news now.  

I do.

[Skittle2021]

38 minutes ago, ramen234 said:

His drinking and smoking habit is a result of stress not that he actually enjoys these kinds of things.  When a person smokes it changes the person's breathing, usually a smoker take deep breaths.  Both smoking and drinking changes brain chemistry, unfortunately these are just temporary solutions to a big problem.  Regular physical exercise is far better.

no, he absolutely enjoys smoking. him mixing weed and tobacco makes it worse. then adding alcohol on top of that is worse. Once he got defensive months ago after I expressed concern, I left it alone. Now he is having complications (ED) and during research realized that I was right and started to blame me for his issues. 

[glows]

2 minutes ago, Skittle2021 said:

I felt like I would be abandoning him in his time of need if he is suffering from anxiety. I was confused because I didn't know where this break up came from. we had just talked about how he wanted to stay exclusive when I asked him if he needed solace or was interested in someone else. he denied it all and said his feelings for mw haven't changed. Once it came time to see me again I got this message. It was cruel and mean.

Let the dust settle for awhile and look at the whole picture. It's confusing now because he's out of his mind or a liar (both are not good). I think you're mixing up his mental health with possible drug/alcohol abuse and it could be any of the reasons he listed above. The onus is on you to walk away from that total trainwreck and move on when you're ready. 

[Skittle2021]

8 minutes ago, glows said:

Let the dust settle for awhile and look at the whole picture. It's confusing now because he's out of his mind or a liar (both are not good). I think you're mixing up his mental health with possible drug/alcohol abuse and it could be any of the reasons he listed above. The onus is on you to walk away from that total trainwreck and move on when you're ready. 

I know that I am going to walk away. I wouldn't have been hurt if he called to say that or told me the truth about what he was feeling. I would have been happy to give him his space. Of course I wouldn't wait around , but its the cold way that he did which makes me feel like he never cared. I know that he used to once upon a time. I think from what everyone has said, the common denominator is that there are many red flags, he sins a good person and Im better off without someone who would do this.

Furthermore, I didnt even know the text was an actual breakup because he said "if you dont want to talk to me anymore I understand" I just didnt get it, which is why I tried to talk to him for understanding.

Edited October 5, 2021 by Skittle2021

[glows]

8 minutes ago, Skittle2021 said:

I know that I am going to walk away. I wouldn't have been hurt if he called to say that or told me the truth about what he was feeling. I wouldn't have been happy to give him his space. of course I wouldn't wait around but its the cold was that he did which makes me feel like he never cared. I know that he used to once upon a time. I think from what everyone has said, the common denominator is that there are many red flags, he sins a good person and Im better off without someone who would do this.

Furthermore, I didnt even know the text was an actual breakup because he said "if you dont want to talk to me anymore I understand" I just didnt get which is why I tried to talk to him for understanding.

A lot of people are non-confrontational or prefer not to be honest because they don't want to discuss what's going on in private. He used a sloppy "it's me, not you" excuse but it ended up coming out cold. The likelihood of him telling you about his drug/alcohol abuse or dependency or telling you he's met someone else is very low. Most opt out because the chances it gets ugly are too high. You would also be prompted to ask more questions, offer more help and understanding, be way too accommodating. What he wants is out and he had to do it in a rough way. He was inconsistent in his thoughts and behaviours also, whether substance abuse related is unknown. Either way I'm glad you are moving on. 

Edited October 5, 2021 by glows

[Skittle2021]

1 minute ago, glows said:

A lot of people are non-confrontational or prefer not to be honest because they don't want to discuss what's going on in private. He used a sloppy "it's me, not you" excuse but it ended up coming out cold. The likelihood of him telling you about his drug/alcohol abuse or dependency or telling you he's met someone else is very low. Most opt out because the chances it gets ugly are too high. You would also be prompted to ask more questions, offer more help and understanding, be way too accommodating. What he wants is out and he had to do it in a rough way. He was inconsistent in his thoughts and behaviours also, whether substance abuse related is unknown. Either way I'm glad you are moving on. 

But he did t have to do it that way. I just asked him the other day if he wanted space if for me to back off and he got annoyed with me for saying that. It’s makes no sense. 

[ramen234]

6 hours ago, Skittle2021 said:

I told him how I felt about that months ago and it didn't affect anything. Once his junk stopped working thats when what I said months ago became an issue. I did not emasculate him. I cared about him and saw what he was doing wasn't good. If I didnt care I would have never said anything. 

Try reading the book Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, it is going to save you a lot of headaches.  I'm not judging you btw. 

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[glows]

4 minutes ago, Skittle2021 said:

But he did t have to do it that way. I just asked him the other day if he wanted space if for me to back off and he got annoyed with me for saying that. It’s makes no sense. 

The beauty of a break up is that it no longer has to make any sense to you. That was a freeing and exquisite feeling after my divorce. It still hurts now but you don't have to make sense of his issues and problems anymore. Pick better people to be around or others who are clearer in their intent, match their actions to their words and vice versa and are consistent, kind, loving, loyal. 

[Alvi]

16 hours ago, Skittle2021 said:

We always see each other once a week, usually on Friday and sometimes we see each other on Saturday as well. The first weekend he came back from his trip, we were supposed to meet up but h said he was feeling really sick and cancelled saying that he needed to get a cover test. So we didn't see each other that week and planned to see each other the following week. The next week he calls me the day of our date to tell me that a family member ended up in the hospital and he had to drive his mother out of town to be with that family member. Of course I understood and told him id still like to see him. he agreed but then called later on that night to tell me he wasn't going to be able to make it because he was tired. I was disappointed so I left it alone. I rescheduled till the next week, this time he calls me on Thursday to tell me his grandfather died. I didnt expect to see him so I asked if he was still planning on seeing each other given the situation and he said yes. The day of the date, he called 1/2 before our date to tell me he wasn't going to be able to make it at the time he said he was. When I asked him what time, he then started to say he didnt know and blah blah, at that point I didnt even want to hear it, I told him to forget it and I got off the phone. 

Excuse after excuse, after excuse. He was either slow fading or wanted you to "get"  that he wasn't interested in dating you any longer. I think he wanted you to be the one to break things off with him rather than him being a bad guy for ending things with you. 

16 hours ago, Skittle2021 said:

He said he believes he is suffering from ED and needs to get checked out. He even semi blamed me for this issue stating that my mention of his smoking and drinking habits being unhealthy and causing issues is why he is going through this. He said I spoke this into his life. I was hurt by that but I let it go. Understanding how traumatic having ED could be for him, I told him I understood and that we didnt have to do anything, we can just chill. I told him I just wanted to see him and be around him. He said he wanted to see me too, but declined saying that he didnt feel right coming over and didnt feel like himself. 

So since you didn't "get" that memo that he wasn't interested anymore, he took it to the next level, hoping that you would be the one to end things. Not surprising, unfortunately. 

16 hours ago, Skittle2021 said:

Friday came and I didnt get my normal good morning text from him and I got a bad feeling. I called him to see if he was still coming and he didnt answer. After about an hour or so I text him and he didnt answer. This is not normal for him as he always answers my calls and text in a decent time and he was not at work this  day because he is off on Fridays. Then out of the blue, I go this text.

"Im not going be able to come im sorry but i cant right now if u don't wanna talk to me no more i understand but i gotta take some time for me i need to be alone right now no distractions if u cant respect that than idk what to say" 

Well, here you go. Since you never took that hint, he broke things off himself.

No, it is not out of the blue. He gave you plenty of hints that he wasn't interested.

 

16 hours ago, Skittle2021 said:

was shocked, confused and numb at reading this. I tried to call him to discuss what he meant and he wouldn't answer. I tried to text him but he never  responded. I was forced to leave it and now I dont know what to think. I don't know if this is his way of breaking up with me, if he just needs some time (and if he does I dont know how much time because I was unable to ask him) Its been 3 days and I have heard nothing from him. What should I do? Should I move on or give him some time?

He broke things off with you. Don't doubt that. Why would you expect to hear from him? In his mind, this is over and done with. Do not contact him anymore for anything.

 

 

Sorry OP. The best thing you can do is to stop dwelling on this and move on. The sooner, the better for your own sanity.

P.S. It is very possible that he is going to reappear in your life at some point again. He left the door slightly open in case that he could weasel back in. Please keep this chapter of your life close forever and never allow him to come back. He is not a good person by the way.

Edited October 5, 2021 by Alvi

[Skittle2021]

7 minutes ago, Alvi said:

Excuse after excuse, after excuse. He was either slow fading or wanted you to "get"  that he wasn't interested in dating you any longer. I think he wanted you to be the one to break things off with him rather than him being a bad guy for ending things with you. 

So since you didn't "get" that memo that he wasn't interested anymore, he took it to the next level, hoping that you would be the one to end things. Not surprising, unfortunately. 

Well, here you go. Since you never took that hint, he broke things off himself.

No, it is not out of the blue. He gave you plenty of hints that he wasn't interested.

 

He broke things off with you. Don't doubt that. Why would you expect to hear from him? In his mind, this is over and done with. Do not contact him anymore for anything.

 

 

Sorry OP. The best thing you can do is to stop dwelling on this and move on. The sooner, the better for your own sanity.

P.S. It is very possible that he is going to reappear in your life at some point again. He left the door slightly open in case that he could weasel back in. Please keep this chapter of your life close forever and never allow him to come back. He is not a good person by the way.

While all of this may be true, we are both grown adults. If I ask a person directly if he wants space, doesn't want the relationship anymore etc etc. I expect them to be honest about it which should have been easy for him fi thats what he truly wanted. he had plenty of opportunities to say he didn't want this anymore. Instead he denied and got annoyed with me for suggesting such a thing. According to him he was dealing with his ED and anxiety. I had no choice but to take him at his word. With all that being said, that text most certainly was out of the blue. We are not kids. I asked him, we've had many conversations about this relationship and his wanting of exclusivity never changed. 

now I do agree he is not a good person as which was recently revealed. He wont ever have to worry about me again because I am going to give him his space permanently. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing this prematurely if he isn indeed suffering from anxiety. The symptoms of such are very much present in his behavior. I am done with him and hopefully I can quickly move past the sadness of the situation.

[ItsTheDay]

Ok, I did not read all of these comments, I stopped after reading a few post how this guy is no good and he's just BSing you but, I just wanted to add my two cents. 

How old is this guy? (maybe I missed it)

His ED problem could be related to other issues. I sure hope he doesn't just go to a PC and says "hey I can't get it up" because they'll just through blue or yellow pills at him without looking more into it, his hormones could be all out of whack and no blue or yellow pill is going to fix that. He should really go to a specialist and get a hormone panel done, it could explain a lot. Look up signs of low test and read how that can really change a man. I personally know someone who went 6 years with low test. He had no sex drive, hated life, was depressed and had suicidal thoughts. He went to a therapist for almost 2 years and it was then his therapist gave him a referral to a specialist, turns out he had very low testosterone. After some time of his treatment, his therapist cleared him of all the scripts she wrote for him. In less than a year he was a new man. He is now happily married and has a 2 year old son.  

Edited October 5, 2021 by ItsTheDay

[Skittle2021]

7 minutes ago, ItsTheDay said:

Ok, I did not read all of these comments, I stopped after reading a few post how this guy is no good and he's just BSing you but, I just wanted to add my two cents. 

How old is this guy? (maybe I missed it)

His ED problem could be related to other issues. I sure hope he doesn't just go to a PC and says "hey I can't get it up" because they'll just through blue or yellow pills at him without looking more into it, his hormones could be all out of whack and no blue or yellow pill is going to fix that. He should really go to a specialist and get a hormone panel done, it could explain a lot. Look up signs of low test and read how that can really change a man. I personally know someone who went 6 years with low test. He had no sex drive, hated life, was depressed and had suicidal thoughts. He went to a therapist for almost 2 years and it was then his therapist gave him a referral to a specialist, turns out he had very low testosterone. After some time of his treatment, his therapist cleared him of all the scripts she wrote for him. In less than a year he was a new man. He is now happily married and has a 2 year old son.  

Wow! Thank you for sharing. he is 33.  I hope he doesn’t go to his PC and say that either. Since he pushed me out of his life, I can no longer suggest or talk to him about anything. He has mentioned that he needs to get his mind right because he is mentally sick so maybe there is some truth to what he is experiencing. At this point I don’t know what to believe. I hope he gets the help that he needs. 

Edited October 5, 2021 by Skittle2021

[Skittle2021]

1 hour ago, Skittle2021 said:

While all of this may be true, we are both grown adults. If I ask a person directly if he wants space, doesn't want the relationship anymore etc etc. I expect them to be honest about it which should have been easy for him fi thats what he truly wanted. he had plenty of opportunities to say he didn't want this anymore. Instead he denied and got annoyed with me for suggesting such a thing. According to him he was dealing with his ED and anxiety. I had no choice but to take him at his word. With all that being said, that text most certainly was out of the blue. We are not kids. I asked him, we've had many conversations about this relationship and his wanting of exclusivity never changed. 

now I do agree he is not a good person as which was recently revealed. He wont ever have to worry about me again because I am going to give him his space permanently. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing this prematurely if he isn indeed suffering from anxiety. The symptoms of such are very much present in his behavior. I am done with him and hopefully I can quickly move past the sadness of the situation.

I should also add that he didn’t slow fade per day. He was still calling me every day, multiple times a day. Still sending me good morning texts. Still calling me at night. We were still talking for hours just as we did when we first met. The only thing that changed was him coming to see me. As I stated, I was conflicted because his excuses were valid so I don’t know what to think and could only listen to what he was telling me. He swore on his grandfather that it wasn’t that he didn’t want to be around me or that he lost feelings. If he does indeed have anxiety and the ED triggered it then from what I’m learning about anxiety, this behavior is reflective of all of that. It is what it is. I hope doesn’t hurt himself and gets the help he needs. 

[poppyfields]

1 hour ago, Skittle2021 said:

While all of this may be true, we are both grown adults. If I ask a person directly if he wants space, doesn't want the relationship anymore etc etc. I expect them to be honest about it...

That was your mistake.  "Expecting" him to respond a certain way (with honesty).  The SECOND you start expecting another person no matter who it is even a long time boyfriend to behave the way you would behave or that you believe anyone should behave (in this case with honesty), you are going to be disappointed/hurt.

The way he ended things is VERY common.  Flipping the script to alleviate guilt for (1) not "feeling it" any longer, and/or (2) meeting another woman while he was out of town.

My guess is even though he said nothing and led you to believe things were hunky dory, he had been thinking about this for awhile.  Again, it's extremely common.

He was simply going through the motions until he was certain he wanted to end it, probably after he spent time with the new woman (when he was away) and it confirmed his feelings (and hers).  I am speculating about that but that is what my intuition is screaming.  It's what I would think if I were in your shoes.

Forget this ED and other garbage excuses he's been feeding you.   That's all they are, excuses.

Sudden breakups like this NEVER make sense!  Never ever.  It's a futile waste of time and energy attempting to make sense of it.   Pre-breakups are chock full of mixed and double messages, lies about feelings, going through the motions which makes the actual breakup very difficult for the dumpee to understand, but you MUST learn to "let it go" otherwise you risk falling into an obsession and basically driving yourself (and those around you) CRAZY.

ACCEPT it's over Skittles, that's the first step toward healing and moving on.

Life is a journey with lots of ups and downs, disappointments and hurt.  This is one.  Learn from it.  Grow from it.  Become a stronger person for having experienced it!

All the best moving forward Skittles and remember time heals.  💛

 

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by poppyfields

[Wiseman2]

10 minutes ago, Skittle2021 said:

I hope doesn’t hurt himself and gets the help he needs. 

He has friends and family and doctors he can talk to. Also going to a bachelor party doesn't sound like someone you have to talk off the ledge.

You made the right call ending things. Whatever his situation is, you may never know.

[Lotsgoingon]

You wasted a ton of time and energy once he sent you even one late cancellation.

Twice he does that. Dump him. Period. Absolute. Move on.

You don't need to know what's going on. He's not available. Dump him. And no, it's not your job to stay with him during his supposed time of struggle. It's HIS job to get his own life together, and he hasn't been forthcoming with you.

He could just as easily be dating someone else in secret and you're worried about abandoning him.

Get out. And in the future, don't give sometime ten chances. Walk away at two. 

[Daisydooks]

1 hour ago, Skittle2021 said:

his wanting of exclusivity never changed

He may have said this to keep you from sleeping with others. His behaviour is not that of a man who is serious about you though. Im really sorry he couldnt be more adulty about things though.  He pulled the classic "treat her badly until she ends it so shes the nasty bad guy" move. 

Odd question, but had you had sex before this bachelor party issue? 

[Lotsgoingon]

There are no excuses for not seeing someone--other than specific time-defined, time-limited periods of an emergency, major project at work or so on. 

I mean, even if you have a devastating loss or death, you see your partner to allow them to take care of you! You can tell your partner to come over. You can lie up in bed and tell your partner to cook for you, give you a massage, hug you or just be with you in your silence. 

There are no excuses for canceling at the last minute--other than a specifically explained emergency at work or o on.  Even if he's depressed, he needs to tell you he's depressed and not at cancel at the last minute. 

You're evaluating him by the wrong standard. The standard is right now, is this person capable and able and willing to be an available partner. If life has overwhelmed them, you don't give them a pass. Being overwhelmed and not being able to include your partner means you don't have the capacity to be in a relationship. Period. 

The standard isn't just "goodness" and "intention." The standard is also capability. I often had good intensions when I was young and flaky. The smart women didn't care about how kind I was or what problems I was going through once I flaked on them the second time. And they were so smart to drop focus on me. 

Life is always going to have ups and downs. 

 

[poppyfields]

25 minutes ago, Lotsgoingon said:

He could just as easily be dating someone else in secret and you're worried about abandoning him.

Get out. And in the future, don't give sometime ten chances. Walk away at two. 

Took the words....

So many women (and men) do this, they believe by being "nice," "patient," "understanding" and "supportive" they will be rewarded with their partner's (who's treating them horribly!) everlasting love.

No!  It's the opposite, they will lose respect for you.  This goes for both women and men although since women are natural nurturers, I see it happening more with women than men.

This has been said so many times on here lately but LOVE YOURSELF FIRST. 

As my late mom used to say "we were not placed on this earth to be martyrs."  And I will take those with me to my grave!

Lots is right, give two changes and if nothing changes, it's NEXT.

Take care of you!

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by poppyfields

[Skittle2021]

34 minutes ago, Daisydooks said:

He may have said this to keep you from sleeping with others. His behaviour is not that of a man who is serious about you though. Im really sorry he couldnt be more adulty about things though.  He pulled the classic "treat her badly until she ends it so shes the nasty bad guy" move. 

Odd question, but had you had sex before this bachelor party issue? 

But this what y’all don’t understand.x he did not treat me badly. His excuses at first were valid. At the bachelor party he still maintained through the entire time he was gone. 
 

And yes we did have sex and to be honest he had issues with that. He wasn’t rock hard.  He lasted for less than a minute, condom slipped off because he couldn’t stay hard and it was just a disaster. So knowing that, him not being able to get it up at all now doesn’t seem far fetched to me as it seems he’s may have been suffering from this back then. His sex drive has always been pretty much non existent. 

[Alvi]

1 hour ago, Skittle2021 said:

While all of this may be true, we are both grown adults. If I ask a person directly if he wants space, doesn't want the relationship anymore etc etc. I expect them to be honest about it which should have been easy for him fi thats what he truly wanted. he had plenty of opportunities to say he didn't want this anymore. Instead he denied and got annoyed with me for suggesting such a thing. According to him he was dealing with his ED and anxiety. I had no choice but to take him at his word. With all that being said, that text most certainly was out of the blue. We are not kids. I asked him, we've had many conversations about this relationship and his wanting of exclusivity never changed. 

It doesn't matter how old a person is. Adult, right? The thing is that some people don't act like adults when it comes to dating. Some will do anything, go to extremes, just to avoid a confrontation or that awkward I don't want to date you conversation. Lie, slow fade, make stupid excuses, blame you, whatever. You say that he suffers from the anxiety. So, that probably fits with him. Talking to you ending things would give him the anxiety. There is one person on this forum who said few times that he never broke up with a woman himself. Instead he would act the way that she would have no choice but to break up with him. If she didn't take any hints (but apparently many did), he would take to the next level of nastiness till she would eventually end things. According to him, it would make a woman feel better and more powerful if she is the one who  ended things. Then she would brag to her friends about how SHE is the one who got rid of him or something. Yeoh, makes no sense. But for him it would be mission accomplished without much sweat. 

[Skittle2021]

14 minutes ago, poppyfields said:

Took the words....

So many women (and men) do this, they believe by being "nice," "patient," "understanding" and "supportive" they will be rewarded with their partner's (who's treating them horribly!) everlasting love.

No!  It's the opposite, they will lose respect for you.  This goes for both women and men although since women are natural nurturers, I see it happening more with women than men.

This has been said so many times on here lately but LOVE YOURSELF FIRST. 

As my late mom used to say "we were not placed on this earth to be martyrs."  And I will take those with me to my grave!

Lots is right, give two changes and if nothing changes, it's NEXT.

Take care of you!

 

I will say this again. His excuses at first were legitimate. He knew I would have probably ended it with this last cancellation and beat me to it. I never under any circumstance allowed him to treat me horribly. I said the man suffered from anxiety. This is not a cut and dry situation when mental health is involved. Regardless I’m not with him anymore. I was confused. 

[Skittle2021]

7 minutes ago, Alvi said:

It doesn't matter how old a person is. Adult, right? The thing is that some people don't act like adults when it comes to dating. Some will do anything, go to extremes, just to avoid a confrontation or that awkward I don't want to date you conversation. Lie, slow fade, make stupid excuses, blame you, whatever. You say that he suffers from the anxiety. So, that probably fits with him. Talking to you ending things would give him the anxiety. There is one person on this forum who said few times that he never broke up with a woman himself. Instead he would act the way that she would have no choice but to break up with him. If she didn't take any hints (but apparently many did), he would take to the next level of nastiness till she would eventually end things. According to him, it would make a woman feel better and more powerful if she is the one who  ended things. Then she would brag to her friends about how SHE is the one who got rid of him or something. Yeoh, makes no sense. But for him it would be mission accomplished without much sweat. 

You keep saying hints when his excuses were valid. The only time he didn’t have one was the last instance when he couldn’t even face me to tell me. You make it seem as though he’s been giving me bullshit excuses and I didn’t get the hint when that isn’t true. Having covid symptoms, family member in hospital, death on the family are all valid excuses. So no I don’t feel any type of way for not dropping him for those reasons. His last excuse wasn’t one and that’s when he decided to end it because he knew that I would. That is what I believe happened, I didn’t expect it because I believed his other excuses.  

Edited October 5, 2021 by Skittle2021

[poppyfields]

From your original post:

>>The first weekend he came back from his trip, we were supposed to meet up but h said he was feeling really sick and cancelled saying that he needed to get a cover test. So we didn't see each other that week and planned to see each other the following week. The next week he calls me the day of our date to tell me that a family member ended up in the hospital and he had to drive his mother out of town to be with that family member. Of course I understood and told him id still like to see him. he agreed but then called later on that night to tell me he wasn't going to be able to make it because he was tired. I was disappointed so I left it alone. I rescheduled till the next week, this time he calls me on Thursday to tell me his grandfather died. I didnt expect to see him so I asked if he was still planning on seeing each other given the situation and he said yes. The day of the date, he called 1/2 before our date to tell me he wasn't going to be able to make it at the time he said he was. When I asked him what time, he then started to say he didnt know and blah blah, at that point I didnt even want to hear it, I told him to forget it and I got off the phone. 

So these excuses were all legit? To me, they sound like a man on his way OUT (of the RL).

But even if they were valid (massive IF imo), none of them prevented him from seeing you IF HE WANTED TO, except maybe the first one (being sick) assuming it's even true.

I am wondering with his last excuse, in bold, why did you become so exasperated and didn't want to hear it, told him "forget it" and hung up the phone"?

What was that about?

Anyway, I gotta run, but since you are unable to accept it's over and done, I hope it all works out, I truly do.

Good luck.

Edited October 5, 2021 by poppyfields