ReluctantRomeo Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I realise now that I must immediately seek medical help and social re-education for my primeval views and beliefs. No, you should seek medical help because your anger is going to eat you up. Have you never thought "there must be a happier way to live than this"? Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I realise now that I must immediately seek medical help and social re-education for my primeval views and beliefs.What RR and others have said. Even though you apparently have the academic skills the rest of your life is such that even you think it sucks to be you. Pain, anger and frustration are clear signs that something is not right in your life. There is only one person that is responsible for your attitude. Link to post Share on other sites
lindya Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 No, you should seek medical help because your anger is going to eat you up. Agreed. B, I get a sense that whilst you might have the degrees you claim, you're over-relying on your academic achievements to compensate for other areas in which you're failing. I think most of us remember fellow students who were that way. Maybe not as popular as they felt they should be, so responded to the perceived slight by adopting a studious air of superiority and arrogance. Extending it to other students who were studying the same courses that they were, and getting the same - if not higher - grades. Result of their arrogant approach to fellow students? Other people (male and female alike) were put off by their manner. The external air of superiority would increase accordingly - whilst inside they probably felt increasingly angry, sad and detached from everyone. The more unpopular such a person became, the more they would appear to delude themselves with the notion "I am a genius strolling amongst human dross." I guess those delusions become like comfort blankets, but they're not healthy at all. Don't let your intellectual superiority (whether real or perceived) put you off getting the help you so clearly need. Link to post Share on other sites
portableversion Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 you crack me up. I went England as an undergrad, and partied hard with some wonderful English lads. They are SOOO much more polite than American thugs. 'William' asked me, as he caressed my breast, "If I fancied that..." I've decided that if my husband leaves me or dies, i'm going to England to find my next husband. Hang in and keep a stiff upper lip, ole chap!! you'll find your English Rose. Link to post Share on other sites
lindya Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I've decided that if my husband leaves me or dies, i'm going to England to find my next husband. Hang in and keep a stiff upper lip, ole chap!! you'll find your English Rose. I think you might just find yourself getting a Glasgow kiss for that, PV Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hang in and keep a stiff upper lip, ole chap!! you'll find your English Rose. errr, he's in Scotland. And I'm guessing he's not Scottish or English. But thanks for the kind comments Link to post Share on other sites
Aimée Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Your acrid sarcasm won't help you. You may believe that emotional intelligence is not important, but you're forgetting that falling in love and loving someone is highly emotional processes, you won't be able to talk your way into someone's heart with rational arguments. Love is an emotion and therefore needs the right language to be addressed, the analytical approach won't help you. I appreciate a guy who is smart, but his intellectual capacity won't warm my heart alone. Take a step back from your anger and read this book about emotional intelligence by Daniel Goleman. He explains the importance of emotional intelligence fairly well and why a high IQ alone won't make you happy. Give it a try at least. Link to post Share on other sites
almostthere Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Ok...guessing by your wonderful attitude about women...might I suggest you date men from now on? Only because you admire them so much. And if you were truly genius then how come it has taken you 31 years to figure out that we like to be treated with respect. And when we do have a headache its not because we were out drinking the night before it probably has to do with how much crap we have listened to you whine about. And in recent studies 64% of women earn more then their spouse. Its just that most of us have been busy making happy homes and raising our children that we havent been as concerned as you to go through school and have several degrees decorating our walls. Isnt one enough? And you say women are indecisive?! And as an answer to your question about women dating engineers...I dated one for a year and a half. and as smart as he was....he had no clue about real life. he was so consumed believing he knew it all that he actually drove people away from him. Sound familiar? Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 And in recent studies 64% of women earn more then their spouse. I've done quite a bit of wage gap research and have yet to come across this statistic. Would you please provide a cite? To the OP, it's understandable that you're cynical. Lots of folks are. If you feel that treating women poorly will allow you to achieve your goals, by all means I encourage you to do so. However, my suspicion is that upon further reflection you'll find that a more moderate approach is the most likely to get you where you want to go. But for now, rant away. This is an excellent place to do exactly that. Link to post Share on other sites
almostthere Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 It was on MSN and also in the Tribune. Heard it on the radio the same day. Probably from the same Trib article. Doesnt matter much. Just get tired of some men thinking that women have it easy. I did lay down with my high school bf and I did get pregnant. But I did marry him and I did get verbally abused by him and eventually had 2 nervous breakdowns and woke up...I moved out and divorced him. Now I am a struggling mom of two young children without child support for stupid reasons. I dont seek out welfare...instead I am going to college to better myself. and Improve my financial situation for the well being of myself and my children. And even though I went through all of that...I hold no ill feelings towards men. Everyone is different and should always be judged on their own merit. Link to post Share on other sites
Aimée Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Honestly, I can't believe it either that 64% of the women earn more than their spouses... Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Honestly, I can't believe it either that 64% of the women earn more than their spouses... The research I did indicates that 33% of women earn more than their spouses. US Dept of labor study, 2001. I think she just also wanted to rant, but in the opposite direction as the OP. Perhaps the lesson to be learned here is that, no matter which side of a rant-related issue you espouse, if the position is extreme enough the moderate majority will dismiss the person as foolish. Link to post Share on other sites
westernxer Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 The research I did indicates that 33% of women earn more than their spouses. US Dept of labor study, 2001. 33 percent sounds more reasonable, and it probably hasn't changed that much in four years, give or take a few percentage points. It's definitely not 64 percent. Link to post Share on other sites
JS17 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Perhaps the lesson to be learned here is that, no matter which side of a rant-related issue you espouse, if the position is extreme enough the moderate majority will dismiss the person as foolish. I think if you look deeper than that you'll find that most people who rant are more likely speaking out of pain and hurt rather than foolishness. Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I think if you look deeper than that you'll find that most people who rant are more likely speaking out of pain and hurt rather than foolishness. Interesting that you choose to point that out now. You're the first person after four days of this thread to defend bonezuk as someone who is merely expressing the pain he is feeling, rather than seeing him as someone expressing myopic and ignorant views. Out of curiousity, do you find it rare that people say foolish things when they are hurt and in pain? If I didn't know any better, I might suggest something so farfetched as you wanting to engage me in an argument. Link to post Share on other sites
JS17 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I think that he is doing both...expressing ignorant and myopic views but clearly they come from some deep seeded pain. I was certainly not defending him. Why does everything have to be an argument? Can people not just point out what others might miss? I'm sure I've seen things only from one angle plenty of times. Isn't that one of the reasons we come here, to learn and see other peoples points of view? Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Coco Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 However much you think you can conceal your animosity when you talk to us, we'll smell it a mile off. We see that white knuckle when something minor irritates you, note the clenched muscle in your face when another bloke pats us on the bum as he passes. Catch the flash of contempt in your eyes when we expressed anything approximating a feminist viewpoint. We might not say anything about it, but the fact that you try to hide it won't stop us from very quickly sussing out what's going on in your head. I'm not surprised you keep getting knocked back, I'm simply relieved that the good women of Scotland are smart enough to stay away from someone with the thoughts and attitude you've demonstrated here. Thanks for taking it all out and putting it on a post for our perusal - but I doubt the inner workings of an embittered misogynistic mind come as any great revelation to many of us. Get thee to a therapist. What more can one say? Well, you took the words out of my mouth! You REALLY need therapy. If you could rid yourself of your hatred for women MAYBE, just MAYBE you could attract one. But until then, be prepared to live a lonely life. Hey, I have an idea...why don't you stop fighting it and find yourself a nice like-minded GUY! I'm sure there's plenty of THEM who would have you! Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I think if you look deeper than that you'll find that most people who rant are more likely speaking out of pain and hurt rather than foolishness. Absolutely true. The problem is though, as long as a person blames others for his own failures and shortcomings, the issues and problems be in existence forever. And that is not beneficial either. Both the original problem and the negative attitudes displayed should be addressed in my opinion. The negative attitudes are part of the problem, a sort of rationalizations on why the person himself is not to blame. Link to post Share on other sites
JS17 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Absolutely true. The problem is though, as long as a person blames others for his own failures and shortcomings, the issues and problems be in existence forever. And that is not beneficial either. Both the original problem and the negative attitudes displayed should be addressed in my opinion. The negative attitudes are part of the problem, a sort of rationalizations on why the person himself is not to blame. I agree. If someone believes themselves to be the victim in situations around which they had control then they are sure to continue on a downward spiral. It takes a lot of courage and maturity for someone with problems this deep seeded to come out of that state of mind and realize that you are responsible for how you view your life's experiences. Link to post Share on other sites
Neptune Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Bonezuk, Well, I did not read all the replies here but your first couple of postings suggests you are going through what most single guys experience. That is those who find themselves with a few years under the belt and not really having any success with women. It is a negative state of mind where you just want to vent about it all. The bottom line most of the time a guy has not met the right woman yet. But be warned it may never happen. But, you can have a good time or two with women along the way. Just got to get out that negative state of mind and be at peace with yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Mary3 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Q: What do women want? : We want 2 orgasms everday ( minimum ). We don't want * Organisms * Q: Do women like sex? Yes , we do. We like it like a *fat kid loves cake. Woman fake organisms and lie constantly <<<<<--------- and men fake feelings and lie too. But this is the blame game we are playing ... Why do you think that on one night stands the man losses all respect for the woman in the morning? : He never had any respect for her to begin with . Q: Is it possible for a man to get a date? Yes, but unless we are psychic, you need to actually ask us out on a date. You think the cartoon of the caveman whacking the girl about the head to knock her out so that she can be had by the caveman is a joke. : Have you had any desires to whack a cavewoman upside the head yourself ?? Q: Does a girl need to work hard to have an independent life style? Yes , she does. I do live independantly and pay my own way. Everything I own I paid for and cherish. Q: Is the role of the father redundant ? Absolutely not. Q: Are woman intelligent?: You mean to tell me that you have never met an intelligent woman ? For example, the Internet is used for global communication and bringing the world closer.: The internet is also being used by Pedophiles who contact children pretending to be 13 yr olds. The internet is also used by Hackers who destroy system data bases and delve into sensitive confidential information. The internet is also used by identify theft users who compile your private information and use it to steal your personal information. The internet is also being used by serial killers preying on women who are lonely and willing to meet them. Speaking of which most serial killers are MALE, just like you. I know of one documented female serial killer Alene Warnos who killed 7 men a few years back. So popular has this tactic been that all ethnic minorities are free to join in and blame the white heterosexual man for all of societies and worldly ills. Q: Do woman start war? : Why dont you tell us the answer ? Q: Are woman insecure? Yes , we can be , just like you are right now. As for me I had to work for a living!!!! : Wow , me too Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 1,389 Are you writing an article ? you have about 20 directions you want this thread Link to post Share on other sites
garner Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Just to reiterate what my position is. I am 31 years old and I have never in my life had a single girlfriend or a relationship in any shape or form. So you wouldn't exactly know much about women, having not had a relationship with one. So how come you're enough of an expert to say... Q: What do women want? A: Truthfully unknown as they have not got any idea themselves. But as a general answer they want everything now Now NOW!!! And it is their right and privilege to have their demands satisfied. And they should not have to raise a single finger but only their screeching whining nagging voices. Woman fake organisms and lie constantly to a man that he is a good lover and only proceed to complain, moan and whine about how crap all men are in bed to her girl friends. Woman will enjoy it only if they are in a long term stable relationship and she is shagging some git that she just met of the dance floor after binge drinking her way through the bar. Ever wondered why she doesn’t want sex but has got a headache instead? Probably hung over. Q: Does a girl need to work hard to have an independent life style? A: No. Well only for about 1 minute while your 14-16 years old. Spread legs to any random thug, get yourself knocked up and that’s it apart from the pregnancy but you can just get drugged out your face for that. Soon you will be given a council house, your taxes paid for you and you’ll receive over £180 per week. The more children the higher the benefits “wage” packet will be. Earn $70k-$100k from the state if you have 5 children or more and no father figure. Then you say things like Woman on the other hand have overturned the traditional family unit that has existed since the dawn of time by creating the sociological and political movements aimed at boosting their own petty ego at the expense of blaming the white heterosexual man for every single ill in the world. The latest evolution of this man hating culture has been the “girl power” revolution. Right. So the traditional family unit never breaks down because men decide to cheat on their wives, or run away because they're "commitment phobic"? Men have never acted out of self interest? Men never blame women for things? Q: Are woman insecure? A: Yes, and their insecurities should be taken advantage of at every turn. So to all the women out there: You are a stupid fat cow; you are up the duff; your man is off shagging another bird; your life has no meaning; your bum does look big that dress and no amount of make up will ever stop you from looking like a gelatine hag. You have piles, constipation, period pains, mood swings, depression, anxiety and PMT. But don’t work when you hit 50 you’ll dry up… Just at the point you decide you want babies now that you have reached to the top of your boardroom ego career. Most likely by sleeping your way to the top. It's because of men like you who say things like this that a lot of women don't want to be in a relationship. The women who aren't so beautiful, who are probably more of a physical match for you, don't want to be with a man who will think of them as ugly just because they aren't perfect. Personally I just want to die because this world makes me so SICK!!!! And I suppose that women are supposed to rush over to comfort you for feeling like that, and try to boost your ego even though you hate us so much? Link to post Share on other sites
Grinning Maniac Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 It'd be wonderful if empathy and comfort actually came so freely in real life, wouldn't it? Imagine that, if someone actually reached out and showed compassion to a guy who's pain has clearly colored his perceptions a bit unevenly, and did so simply out of the kindness of their heart. That's just surreal isn't it? But no... it's probably best if you all ignore him, or make remarks about him being better off turning gay, or sarcastically telling him to seek therapy. That certainly won't make him any more bitter at all towards people... Honestly, if I had a bar of gold for every time that someone in the real world tried to reach out to ME when I was feeling hurt and low, I'd be living in cardboard box.. Some of you were cool, but damn it there's a lot of odium in the air, and it's not just coming from the OP. No. 1 Comment: "Ha! I can SEE why no one wants to date you! Nah-nana-nah-nah!" You guys depress the hell out of me sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 You guys depress the hell out of me sometimes. And how many posts have you ripped apart with your sarcasm? Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 It'd be wonderful if empathy and comfort actually came so freely in real life, wouldn't it? Imagine that, if someone actually reached out and showed compassion to a guy who's pain has clearly colored his perceptions a bit unevenly, and did so simply out of the kindness of their heart. That's just surreal isn't it? But no... it's probably best if you all ignore him, or make remarks about him being better off turning gay, or sarcastically telling him to seek therapy. That certainly won't make him any more bitter at all towards people... Honestly, if I had a bar of gold for every time that someone in the real world tried to reach out to ME when I was feeling hurt and low, I'd be living in cardboard box.. Some of you were cool, but damn it there's a lot of odium in the air, and it's not just coming from the OP. No. 1 Comment: "Ha! I can SEE why no one wants to date you! Nah-nana-nah-nah!" You guys depress the hell out of me sometimes. I totally agree here. It always amazes me how people can be so callous towards those who are hurting - and Bonezuk clearly IS hurting here. I dunno... I guess I was never the type to attack people simply because they are hurting. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites
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