d'Arthez Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 It is what guys wanted.....but when women complains about it they should blame other women and the feminist movement, not men. Nonsense. It is what guys want who prefer not to fork out any cash for escort services, and are utterly unable or unwilling to handle a committed relationship. Not all guys are like that. To blame the feminist movement, is utter crap. It at least served to challenge the gender bias in a lot of different settings. Including differential pay. As if work performance depends on the possession of one set of genitalia - no, and the difference between pay for men and women, who do the same job still exists. To name but one example. Women give it up too easy and they compete with other women for men and they f*** married men. As for giving it up too easily, that is utter bullcrap. As if men are holy protectors and conveyers of all that is noble and true, in the matter of sex and relationships. If you treat women like they are toys, yes some will prove defective by your standards. A miniature train makes a bad mansion for instance. Some women f*** married men. Some women have had sexual relationships with former US Presidents. And, the point is? If it were up to men we'd be able to have sex with any woman we wanted at any time we wanted... Speak for yourself. Not for me. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Nonsense. It is what guys want who prefer not to fork out any cash for escort services, and are utterly unable or unwilling to handle a committed relationship. Not all guys are like that. To blame the feminist movement, is utter crap. It at least served to challenge the gender bias in a lot of different settings. Including differential pay. As if work performance depends on the possession of one set of genitalia - no, and the difference between pay for men and women, who do the same job still exists. To name but one example. As for giving it up too easily, that is utter bullcrap. As if men are holy protectors and conveyers of all that is noble and true, in the matter of sex and relationships. If you treat women like they are toys, yes some will prove defective by your standards. A miniature train makes a bad mansion for instance. Some women f*** married men. Some women have had sexual relationships with former US Presidents. And, the point is? Speak for yourself. Not for me. the point i'm trying to make is that women control most of the sexual activity going on around us. If they say "no" then ususally there is no sex....ergo, if casual sexual activity is going on without love and affection and "dating" and getting flowers and dinner then it is their own fault for being involved in casual sexual relations... Link to post Share on other sites
JS17 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 the point i'm trying to make is that women control most of the sexual activity going on around us. If they say "no" then ususally there is no sex....ergo, if casual sexual activity is going on without love and affection and "dating" and getting flowers and dinner then it is their own fault for being involved in casual sexual relations... That's kind of funny cause in most of my relationships it's the men that control whether there is sexual activity or not. I even stayed with someone for a very long time who didn't want to have sex at all. Maybe in your world women control sex but not in everyone's. Every situation is different. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 That's kind of funny cause in most of my relationships it's the men that control whether there is sexual activity or not. I even stayed with someone for a very long time who didn't want to have sex at all. Maybe in your world women control sex but not in everyone's. Every situation is different. How many women are prosecuted for raping men? Very few JS17.... In addition, most women can put on a mini-skirt and a low-cut top and walk into almost any bar on a saturday nite and pick up a man for casual sex. Most men I know cannot put on a nice suit and tie and walk into any bar on sat nite and pick up a woman for casual sex... Whatever you may think JS17 it is the women that have final say over sex because they can cry "rape" anytime they want and the cops will come running... Link to post Share on other sites
JS17 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Rape?!?! What are you talking about? Rape is a whole different subject. I don't think any of us were talking about sex that is FORCED! Link to post Share on other sites
TUDOR Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Rape?!?! What are you talking about? Rape is a whole different subject. I don't think any of us were talking about sex that is FORCED! This is getting kinky! Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Rape?!?! What are you talking about? Rape is a whole different subject. I don't think any of us were talking about sex that is FORCED! Drawing a parallel between the reason there are rape laws for women and not men isn't a true test of showing that women control the sex Alpha.. I think that in 99% of the cases the women do control the when,how,with who and yes or no of having sex.. Woman also have the final say so as well.. We all know men once geared up will never say no.. but a women will. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 How many women are prosecuted for raping men? Very few JS17.... It does happen. And not all women who are raped file a report, in fact only a minority of women does. Because they are ashamed. The chances of a conviction are about 12% in the UK, if victim and perpetrator knew each other. And I have no reason to believe that the stats are dramatically different in the US, or elsewhere in Europe. In Eastern European countries the stats will probably be even worse. And for men, it is even harder to file. Because of all the social preconceptions that exist. Even a lot of women, cannot believe that it does happen. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 We all know men once geared up will never say no.. but a women will. Speak for yourself, Art_Critic. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Speak for yourself' date=' Art_Critic.[/quote'] Are you just trying to correct me or are you saying that you have said no to a women after your geared up ? which is it ? Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 The generalization is not true. It applies to some men. But also to some women. The first is generally portrayed as the average male, and the second is portrayed as a freak of nature, a nymphomaniac, or whatever. Hence enforcing the tendency to believe that men and women are different in sexual matters. To an extent there is truth in that, but no so much as to allow for such statements. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 And for men' date=' it is even harder to file. Because of all the social preconceptions that exist. Even a lot of women, cannot believe that it does happen.[/quote'] Exactly....and many women don't think there are any battered men out there who regularly get the shyt kicked out of them by their wives or girlfriends. But they do exist.... and most of these men are too ashamed to go to the police cause they'll be looked at as pussies. My point in all this is that women generally control their bodies and their sexuality and if they are against casual sex then they should not have casual sex. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 My point in all this is that women generally control their bodies and their sexuality and if they are against casual sex then they should not have casual sex. I agree... Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I agree... Right LOONEY...and furthermore, if 98% of females stopped having casual sex then casual sex as a past-time would die off. Men would have to go to hookers for casual sex like they did in the past. Casual sex exists mainly because women allow it to go on and they perpetuate it. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Right LOONEY...and furthermore, if 98% of females stopped having casual sex then casual sex as a past-time would die off. Men would have to go to hookers for casual sex like they did in the past. Casual sex exists mainly because women allow it to go on and they perpetuate it. Ummmm, I tend to get suspicious when I see myself agreeing with you and maybe it's because I've also not been following the thread closely enough, but I think in general you make a valid point. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Ummmm, I tend to get suspicious when I see myself agreeing with you and maybe it's because I've also not been following the thread closely enough, but I think in general you make a valid point. ....... Link to post Share on other sites
Grinning Maniac Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Alpha's not as dumb as some people may think. I'm a college student and dating is practically non-existant on campus, in favor of "hooking up" at parties or wherever. Oh how I hate that stupid term... But anyhow, this whole situation does seem very much like "be careful what you wish for...". Every single day I hear in passing some girl mentioning a "hook-up" they had over the weekend or another one saying they don't have time for dating. Public transportation is good here so I'm kinda forced to listen to a lot of conversations. It's all the same ****. The world is changing, and not for the better in my eyes. Things seem so cold and detatched now. I really think I was born in the wrong century. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Alpha's not as dumb as some people may think. I just say he gives crappy advice. Every single day I hear in passing some girl mentioning a "hook-up" they had over the weekend or another one saying they don't have time for dating. Public transportation is good here so I'm kinda forced to listen to a lot of conversations. It's all the same ****. The world is changing, and not for the better in my eyes. Things seem so cold and detatched now. I really think I was born in the wrong century. Some girls like hook-ups, some girls don't. Some guys like hook-ups, some guys don't. And your point is? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I just say he gives crappy advice. Advice is all relative is it not, LOONEY??? My advice is pointed to a very specific audience and does not apply to everyone, especially females. I am here to help men. Link to post Share on other sites
garner Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Right LOONEY...and furthermore, if 98% of females stopped having casual sex then casual sex as a past-time would die off. Men would have to go to hookers for casual sex like they did in the past. Casual sex exists mainly because women allow it to go on and they perpetuate it. So men don't really want sex? Men don't ask for sex and drop women unless they get sex from them within a few weeks of meeting them? I suppose you're saying that women just shouldn't go to bars and clubs, because doing so indicates that we're looking for casual sex - so we've only got ourselves to blame if men assume that's all we're good for, and they lose interest if we don't give it up straight away. So we should just stay at home, watch tv and dream of being rescued by some handsome prince who'll never show up. Link to post Share on other sites
Grinning Maniac Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 My point is that the "hook-up" culture seems to be overshadowing dating. If we're going to start taking entirely pragmatic approaches to dating/romance/sex, I have a suggestion for one. Make life like a dating site, in that everyone wears a little patch that says whether or not they're taken and what exactly they're "looking for". Is it just me or does that seem like it would spare a whole lot of wasted time? Sounds great to me. I could dodge most of the hoo-ers around and not bother chatting up chicks who have boyfriends. People looking for hook-ups can easily find them (as if it were hard) and vice versa. Just a thought. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 So men don't really want sex? Men don't ask for sex and drop women unless they get sex from them within a few weeks of meeting them? . Of course men want and demand sex but there is no law on the books that requires women to give them sex....if women banded together to "just say no" to sex before marriage then men would marry them to get sex. That is how it was in the old days. Now, with all the free and casual sex going on what is the reason to get married??? Why should a man buy the cow when he's getting the milk for free already?? WOmen have f***ed themselves over in this area and men can get whatever they want from women without a wedding. Women are soooo dumb! Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Advice is all relative is it not, LOONEY??? My advice is pointed to a very specific audience and does not apply to everyone, especially females. I am here to help men. Well, you show guys who want to have a serious relationship how to play mind games which don't get them anywhere. Ok, if they were smart they might wonder if an eternal bachelor is a good source for serious advice about women, but obviously some don't. Every woman can tell that your success consists of knowing how to push buttons and knowing what certain women want. You offer them money and success and a good lover in bed, it's exactly what these women want and of course you can't respect them for this, because they like you for something that is not completely the real you. It's no problem to attract someone with tricks and games, you know that and I know that and for exactly this reason you get bored with them after a while. You're just pushing the right buttons and you get something to feed your ego for a while, but after a couple of months you're bored, no wonder, who wants to date a dolt whom you can manipulate so easily. Telling people to play games is not getting them anywhere, because nobody respects someone who is so stupid to fall for one's games. And nobody wants to stay with people who don't like you for what you are but are only after your money.Your fault consists of showing them how to attract the wrong kind of women. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mary3 Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 Ahhhhhhhh Alpha so this explains alot : "I am here to help men." So thats the idea here .....thats where all the Don Juan Advice is intended. Thats why the females on here for the most part are placated and told to be careful with their pussies and to not dish it out. Thats why all of your posts are directed at the amount of control our vaginas have and how much sex you will be gauranteed by the amount of money in your bank account and the BMW that you drive ( right make on car ? ). Thats why you have in 99% of your posts advice for MEN. Okay well I am here to advise both. I wont tell any man to hide his wallet or any women to keep her legs closed. Everyone is entitled to do what they want. We are all adults here. I also do believe men can be raped and abused. Its just something not talked about and most can't figure how an erection , which is what needs to happen in intercourse, can be unwilling occurance. But all in all, I think I understand you the most now. Don't you want to advise the female posters on here as well ? I mean other than telling them to stop having meanlingless sex ? Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Women are soooo dumb! Not ALL of them, Alpha. Only those who would give YOU the time of day. Try *hooking up* with a SMART woman (not necessarily IQ-smart but EQ-smart). You wouldn't stand a chance, bub. Link to post Share on other sites
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