Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, FredEire said: Of course she didn't know it was a "bluff", how could she? So you still think she still doesn't know it's a bluff even though I've told her the reason I did it was to make her hate me and said I wasn't planning on being alive for long enough to go through with it anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Gebidozo said: I think she thinks she’s free of your unhealthy neediness and manipulation, and is happy about that. So are you sure she thinks it's over? That's all I want now. Edited July 12, 2024 by HopelessNick Link to post Share on other sites
FredEire Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 19 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: So you still think she still doesn't know it's a bluff even though I've told her the reason I did it was to make her hate me and said I wasn't planning on being alive for long enough to go through with it anyway? You scared her, that's the main thing. Why on earth would you make it worse by telling her you were planning to commit suicide? There's a much easier way which is just to say nothing and leave your relationship in the past where it may at least be a somewhat fond memory and a learning experience. Link to post Share on other sites
FredEire Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 19 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: So are you sure she thinks it's over? That's all I want now. Most definitely 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, FredEire said: Why on earth would you make it worse by telling her you were planning to commit suicide? So that she's know it was a bluff. And kind of to make her not want to take me to court which I think I succeeded in doing? Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 Also, why doesn't she just say I don't want to talk to you or have anything to do with you again? Instead of still responding? Link to post Share on other sites
FredEire Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: So that she's know it was a bluff. And kind of to make her not want to take me to court which I think I succeeded in doing? It's highly advisable not to make up such outlandish stuff about dark matters like this, and not to get into invasions of privacy and blackmail. I think this is fairly common sense for most people but it seems to be acceptable for you, which is why I think you might have something going on psychologically. You need a psychologist to address this. Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 (edited) You guys say she wants me to leave her alone which I will. But why doesn't she just say something like "I don't want to talk to you or have anything to do with you again" instead of still responding? Edited July 12, 2024 by HopelessNick Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 39 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: So are you sure she thinks it's over? That's all I want now. Oh yes, I’m sure she thinks it’s over. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Gebidozo said: Oh yes, I’m sure she thinks it’s over. So my lie about killing myself worked? Perfect 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: So my lie about killing myself worked? Perfect Dude, get therapy NOW. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 I still don't get why doesn't she just say something like "I don't want to talk to you or have anything to do with you again" instead of still responding? Link to post Share on other sites
FredEire Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: I still don't get why doesn't she just say something like "I don't want to talk to you or have anything to do with you again" instead of still responding? She pretty much has. At this stage I'm not sure if this might be a troll. If it's not you need to listen to her and get some help. There's something quite off in your thought process and it's going to badly effect every relationship you have. Link to post Share on other sites
flitzanu Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 2 hours ago, HopelessNick said: I still don't get why doesn't she just say something like "I don't want to talk to you or have anything to do with you again" instead of still responding? because she is probably legitimately and reasonably worried that you might hurt her or murder her if she says something harsh to you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ExpatInItaly Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 3 hours ago, HopelessNick said: I still don't get why doesn't she just say something like "I don't want to talk to you or have anything to do with you again" instead of still responding? Because she thinks you are unhinged and will hurt yourself. You are scaring her and need to stop before you get yourself arrested for harrassment. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 58 minutes ago, flitzanu said: because she is probably legitimately and reasonably worried that you might hurt her or murder her if she says something harsh to you. She knows I'm not physically strong enough to do that 🤣 She's much stronger than I am. 1 minute ago, ExpatInItaly said: Because she thinks you are unhinged and will hurt yourself. You are scaring her and need to stop before you get yourself arrested for harrassment. I literally haven't done anything since I told her she saved my life. Link to post Share on other sites
ExpatInItaly Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 8 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: I literally haven't done anything since I told her she saved my life. It doesn't matter. You need to never contact her again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, ExpatInItaly said: It doesn't matter. You need to never contact her again. Well she's the one who does now Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 @HopelessNick you're embarrassing yourself. Please get therapy before you make yourself look even more scary/foolish 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 14, 2024 Author Share Posted July 14, 2024 I don't know if anyone can think of any explanations for this. I don't actually miss spending time with her. I don't miss hanging out at her place, watching shows together etc. What I do miss though was being there for her whenever she was in tears. So basically when she was hurt or sad, I was able to hug and kiss and make her feel better. That's what I miss so much and makes me cry, especially when I know that her new boyfriend is doing that now. I guess I miss making her ok and nothing else. Does anyone know what that means? Is that love? Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 I don’t think it’s love - I think it’s more about feeling needed or valuable Link to post Share on other sites
S2B Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 (edited) On 7/8/2024 at 3:59 AM, HopelessNick said: I lied and did it to hurt her. Same reason I pretended to blackmail her. I self sabotaged by making her hate me. I thought I would be able to get over her easier if she hated me. I've told her that since, but I don't know if she believes me. Love doesn’t look like this. Seek professional help to understand what a healthy relationship looks like - and how to participate accordingly. explore why you participate in codependent situations. It’s unhealthy for you! Edited July 14, 2024 by S2B 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 16 hours ago, HopelessNick said: I don't know if anyone can think of any explanations for this. I don't actually miss spending time with her. I don't miss hanging out at her place, watching shows together etc. What I do miss though was being there for her whenever she was in tears. So basically when she was hurt or sad, I was able to hug and kiss and make her feel better. That's what I miss so much and makes me cry, especially when I know that her new boyfriend is doing that now. I guess I miss making her ok and nothing else. Does anyone know what that means? Is that love? That’s not love. OP, you can’t be in a relationship now. Please seek professional therapy ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites
Author HopelessNick Posted July 15, 2024 Author Share Posted July 15, 2024 14 hours ago, Gebidozo said: That’s not love. Then what is it? Link to post Share on other sites
FredEire Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 40 minutes ago, HopelessNick said: Then what is it? It's a desperate obsession based on a feeling that she could provide needs that you have left unmet from childhood. Love is more like a strong mutual caring between two individuals who fully care about and appreciate who eachother is, and can connect and share their lives and bodies together in a way that's enriching rather than needing to fill in a lack of something. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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