Jack: Just a couple of points.....

[Miss Mojo]

hi jack,

 

i read your post further down where you responded to laurynn, and i just thought i would throw in my 2 cents worth too:

 

1. i wholeheartedly agree with laurynn - make no mistake that this chick is playing you like a fiddle BIG TIME.

 

2. you wrote:

 

Don't some women like a guy who will fight for them?

 

hell yeah. a lot of women love the idea of guy fighting for them. i won't beat around the bush here, but i think it is great for our ego's.

 

BUT....

 

any sane woman in her right mind, with a bit of grey matter between her ears and ESPECIALLY with someone that she spent *2 YEARS* with, who she has history with, would NOT accept something from an ex and CONTINUE to date a guy. that is not confusion, it is just plain disrespect and using. she knows damn well what her options are....she knows damn well how you feel about her. she could have said, "sorry jack, but i can't accept this when i am with another guy"...or she could have said, "that's really sweet jack. if you think that much of me to buy a horse, i better get rid of mr-currently-on-the-scene

 

put it this way jack:-

 

she knows you want to get back with her. you were together for 2 years, and you obviously have a lot of history together. no chick, with an ounce of self-respect and respect for another person, would continue to date another guy when she knows you want her back. no chick, with an ounce of self-respect and respect for another person would accept a damn horse while at the same time dating another guy.

 

now correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure a lot of other people would agree with me here...if i was in the situation where my ex bought me a freaking horse (A HORSE!!!!, NOT A BUNCH OF FLOWERS OR A NECKLACE THAT COULD HAVE COST ANYTHING)...A HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!...i sure as hell wouldn't stand there and accept it and continue to see another guy unless i was willing to take total advantage of my ex.

 

3. you also write:

 

We are definately in the process of building back what first brought us together and severing ties now just seems the wrong thing to do when we are in the middle of healing past wounds.

 

no you're not. if you were in the process of building things again, she WOULD NOT BE DATING SOMEONE ELSE. jack, when you really, really, really LOVE a person and you know they want to get back with you, you would do anything in your power to make sure it will happen. you're doing everything in your power to make sure it will happen. ummm....she sure as hell aint because she's dating another person (still!!!).

 

4. I really don't think she's thinking past the fact that she now has a horse to how that affects the relationships she is currently engaged in.

 

jack, maybe she's not thinking past the fact that she now has a current relationship and how that affects the horse. did you buy her this horse with the intent of her current boyfriend finding out about it and wanting to break up with her? or did you buy the horse because she loves horses?

 

i hate to say it jack, but from my female point of view, it does not look at all like she wants to get back with you. no matter how much of a bastard you were to her AT THE END of the relationship(note you said it was only at the end of the relationship....not all the way through), this whole situation is carrying on in a very one-sided manner. i think she's playing you for all you're worth, which seems to be horses right now.

 

She may also not want to hurt him because he offered her comfort, while I didn't, when she needed it.

 

....maybe she's happy jack, and doesn't want to hurt you....you must look at that as a possibility.

 

this is so insane. if you really want to drive a woman crazy over you, don't kiss her a*se and be elusive. she's milking you buddy, and she's obviously so keen to get back with you because she's dating another guy....get my drift?

 

you are seriously in for a major heartbreak. back off and let her do the chasing (if she wants you, she will).

[chick]

listen to what she has to say, Jack, take it all in....she is SO right and has SO many valid points....as usual!!!

[Miss Mojo]

hiya chick!!!!!

 

thanks for the feedback

 

now, would you in your right mind keep dating a new guy when someone you have so much history with wants you back and buys you a horse as proof of his love? you'd keep dating this new guy if you didn't want your ex back, no? you'd dump new-guy's butt so fast if you wanted your ex back, no? (regardless of the horse).

 

wow...a horse aint just sucking up to a person. a horse is a horse (of course, of course).

 

jack, if you were my brother, i'd sock you one. take a girl's point of view (numerous ones at that, and even owl's) and do yourself a favour. think of yourself here, not her. don't even put her in the equation, cos it just doesn't add up, ok?

[Tony T]

I wish somebody would buy me a horse.

 

Yes, this girl is taking Jack for a big ride but Jack's having fun. He's been told this all along but he ain't gonna believe it...not today, not tomorrow, not next week. I think Jack's emotions are so numb this girl could pulverize him, stomp him, and run over him with a steamroller and he would just buy her a saddle for the horse he bought her.

 

I know lots of people like Jack. You can talk to them all day...until you're blue in the face. They don't learn even with experience.

 

One day, they're driving down the freeway in their Ford Explorer, their tires go flat, they lose control of their vehicle and they land upside down on the side of the highway.

 

When the state trooper arrives and asks what happened, he says "I'm not sure officer...but I think that girl I bought the horse for ten years ago used my ass."

 

Be patient with Jack. He's in the clouds right now...and we can see very clearly what's happening to him. But he can't see what a fool he's making of himself. He thinks he's making time with his honey and they will get back together and live happily ever after.

 

You obviously don't know Jack.

 

Jack has a lot of learn.

[chick]

LOL!!!

 

yet more valid points for you, Jack!!! get out your notebook buddy, you need to take some notes from these wise people.

[Miss Mojo]

lol!!!

 

i was having great visuals of the ford explorer rolling on the highway. perhaps the ford explorer rolled because it hit a horse???

 

p.s. don't worry tony....i'm still waiting for my horse too (with my knight in shining armour atop ready to take me to my new ford explorer).

[jack]

Tonight we went to a saddle auction together. Bought some stuff, made plans for our weekend rides. I hate to admit this but tonight made me realise she is pretty much what most of you have been saying. She got a call from her guy on the drive home, she told him she was with me & what we were doing, made some mushy, fake sounding love talk with him and promptly told me she could care less if they broke up after hanging up. This girl is seriously f#%$^& up! Fact is I am enjoying the other guy getting his face rubbed in it. He must in real turmoil right now because I'm pretty certain she would have told him one of the reasons we broke up is that I was a jealous bastard. His dilemma, I'm sure is that he doesn't want to appear jealous of our "friendship". Must be ripping him apart. Poor guy.

 

I gotta say, even though this girl is alot of what you said, she is still too naive to actually be calculating. I think the rest of it, however, is just part of her nature. And as I have come to realise this over the past few weeks through her actions, and your insightful posts, is why we are perfect for each other & why I love her and want her back.

 

Going to try that not calling for a couple days now. I'm pretty sure it will drive her crazy.

I wish somebody would buy me a horse. Yes, this girl is taking Jack for a big ride but Jack's having fun. He's been told this all along but he ain't gonna believe it...not today, not tomorrow, not next week. I think Jack's emotions are so numb this girl could pulverize him, stomp him, and run over him with a steamroller and he would just buy her a saddle for the horse he bought her. I know lots of people like Jack. You can talk to them all day...until you're blue in the face. They don't learn even with experience. One day, they're driving down the freeway in their Ford Explorer, their tires go flat, they lose control of their vehicle and they land upside down on the side of the highway. When the state trooper arrives and asks what happened, he says "I'm not sure officer...but I think that girl I bought the horse for ten years ago used my ass." Be patient with Jack. He's in the clouds right now...and we can see very clearly what's happening to him. But he can't see what a fool he's making of himself. He thinks he's making time with his honey and they will get back together and live happily ever after. You obviously don't know Jack. Jack has a lot of learn.

[jack]

P.S.

 

I almost want to let her read this stuff so she could see how I really feel about the whole situation. It would either drive her away forever or bring us together. I can't quite decide which but at least she would know the truth. That stuff about rubbing the other guys nose in it has passed. That is just a flash of emotion that quickly comes & goes.

Tonight we went to a saddle auction together. Bought some stuff, made plans for our weekend rides. I hate to admit this but tonight made me realise she is pretty much what most of you have been saying. She got a call from her guy on the drive home, she told him she was with me & what we were doing, made some mushy, fake sounding love talk with him and promptly told me she could care less if they broke up after hanging up. This girl is seriously f#%$^& up! Fact is I am enjoying the other guy getting his face rubbed in it. He must in real turmoil right now because I'm pretty certain she would have told him one of the reasons we broke up is that I was a jealous bastard. His dilemma, I'm sure is that he doesn't want to appear jealous of our "friendship". Must be ripping him apart. Poor guy. I gotta say, even though this girl is alot of what you said, she is still too naive to actually be calculating. I think the rest of it, however, is just part of her nature. And as I have come to realise this over the past few weeks through her actions, and your insightful posts, is why we are perfect for each other & why I love her and want her back. Going to try that not calling for a couple days now. I'm pretty sure it will drive her crazy.

 

[Miss Mojo]

jack,

 

i rest my case on this one. you are nearly 30 (or something like that). you could find yourself a really great girl...i will repeat that loud and clear...*A REALLY GREAT GIRL*. but you won't as long as you're hanging around this game-playing, materialistic, insecure, insensitive, using cow (maybe you should have bought her a cow??).

 

you are so wrapped up in this girl that you are bring yourself down. do you remember that everclear song, "everything to everyone"? there's a perfect line in it for you..."i think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold is the hand that holds you down".

 

i want to bop this girl across the head with the horse you bought her.

 

you write:

 

She got a call from her guy on the drive home, she told him she was with me & what we were doing, made some mushy, fake sounding love talk with him and promptly told me she could care less if they broke up after hanging up.

 

heaven's to betsy, boy. she probably says similar things like that about you, "....he bought me this really great horse, but i'm not fussed either way, as long as he buys me horse stuff". this girl, sat in the car with you, obviously deceiving the guy she is dating now.....did it once cross your mind that deceit is probably in her nature?? you saw first hand how deceitful she can be. quite frankly, i can't stand the sounds of this girl.

 

This girl is seriously f#%$^& up!

 

....and then some.

 

Fact is I am enjoying the other guy getting his face rubbed in it. He must in real turmoil right now because I'm pretty certain she would have told him one of the reasons we broke up is that I was a jealous bastard. His dilemma, I'm sure is that he doesn't want to appear jealous of our "friendship".

 

maybe not. he might be mature enough about this. he might think, "sheesh, the jealous bastard can't let go. when's he going to take a hint and realise that she doesn't want to be with him??". did it ever occur to you that maybe she said she'd break up with him because she knows just how jealous you are? that is *exactly* what i would say to an ex if i was afraid they'd get all upset and jealous if i was on the phone to my new loverboy and being lovey-dovey.

 

she is still too naive to actually be calculating.

 

you don't have to be calculating to be a deceitful, using b*tch to a person.

 

this...is why we are perfect for each other & why I love

 

her and want her back.

 

did someone drop you on your head at birth? it's called, "having trouble letting go no matter how much of a s*** the other person is". i had trouble letting go of a really crappy relationship once too....but i didn't buy him a horse. he would have loved that and kept me on the scene longer to see what else he could wheedle outta me.

 

do you honestly want to spend the rest of your life wondering if she will deceive you oneday? do you honestly want to spend the rest of your life with someone who can't appreciate when they are loved?

 

you'd be perfect for each other if she went and bought *you* a horse.

 

Going to try that not calling for a couple days now. I'm pretty sure it will drive her crazy.

 

...there's only one way to find out.

 

good luck to you, jack. it's just a shame you can't move on. stop blaming yourself for the relationship not working out. you believe if you had of done anything and everything for her, you wouldn't have broken up. well, you're doing anything and everything for her now, and she still is with another guy. by the sounds of this ex of yours, it was destined to screw up somewhere along the line.

 

why do you do this to yourself, eh?

 

end of story.

[sparkle]

Did you buy her some more stuff? Wonderful!! Keep it up!

Tonight we went to a saddle auction together. Bought some stuff, made plans for our weekend

[Laurynn]

"! Fact is I am enjoying the other guy getting his face rubbed in it. He must in real turmoil right now because I'm pretty certain she would have told him one of the reasons we broke up is that I was a jealous bastard. His dilemma, I'm sure is that he doesn't want to appear jealous of our "friendship". Must be ripping him apart. Poor guy."

 

You're a real sick bastard. This guy she CHOSE TO DATE and STILL HAS NOT BROKEN UP WITH, has done nothing wrong. You say they didn't start dating til a week after she dumped you, so there ya go......he has every right to date her and not be judged for it. You like him having his nose rubbed in it? I don't think that's happening, Jacko. He's probably getting a huge laugh at your expense.....you're the sap who's spending the big bucks, trying to win her back but HE is the one she remains with/continues to date/kisses/has sex with?.....Don't be too cocky here, cuz it's likely going to backfire in your face..or is already.

 

It's more than obvious you're the one who's jealous..cuz if you were confident and secure with yourself/her feelings towards you, you wouldn't get such a sick, mean pleasure out of imagining that her NEW BOYFRIEND is having anything rubbed in his face.

 

Ahh...so one of the problems you had in your relationship (that lead to her dumping you) was the fact that you were always jealous. Well, now that would explain why you're allowing yourself to be USED and you spent all that $$ on a horse for her. So what did you buy her at the auction? DID YOU PAY FOR WHATEVER IT IS? If so, you are officially an idiot LOL (and you Village will be calling soon).

 

L