Lucasarts Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 back to foreign languages, its a good tool for picking up women for sure. They love the effort that you put into and they love to correct you, so make a fool of yourself because its a great way to get those beautiful foreign women to love you i learned some spanish and even though i wasn't perfect i still got some great tongue action... i should learn some french now that i read these posts Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 That said, it doesnt change the fact that your plan is deviously skewed. Not everyone recognizes the work of the Grand Admiral Thrawn. In the Zahn Triology of the Star Wars novels (based on 5 years after the defeat of the Evil Galactic Empire and destruction of the Second Death Star), the Grand Admiral Thrawn was artistic. You saying it is deviously skewed shows that you are very unappreciative of artistic forms of conquest. (i.e. conquest refers to social conquest to remind those who like twisting my posts, not sexual ones) Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 back to foreign languages, its a good tool for picking up women for sure. They love the effort that you put into and they love to correct you, so make a fool of yourself because its a great way to get those beautiful foreign women to love you i learned some spanish and even though i wasn't perfect i still got some great tongue action... i should learn some french now that i read these posts Lucasarts -- or Lucasfilms -- the producer of the Star Wars franchise, meets one of the characters of the extended Star Wars Universe -- The Grand Admiral Thrawn. Ok. Your post has provided inspiration, that sometimes a weakness may be a strength in disguise, and that being perfect is not necessarily a prerequisite of being truely appreciated by those we seek to impress. Link to post Share on other sites
Bogun Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 That's absolutely right, there's nothing fake about a sincere: "Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?" Doesnt have the same ring to at as "do you want to fu*k me tonight" does it. Smoochieface is crying sour grapes, that is what he is doing, because I'm going to marry a French woman, and he's not. HA! I've looked at some online profiles of women in Quebec - and all I can say is viva France! Umm wouldnt that mean you'd be marrying a canadian woman? Not a french woman??? I speak english but I'm not english! Here's a tip admiral to help you turn into a bad little christian, use your lame french on girls that don't speak it, and they'll think you're a genius. Link to post Share on other sites
clandestinidad Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Admiral...I've re-read this thread, and realized that I thought something completely different was amiss. I now see that you are just finding a way to meet various females, and have the ability to speak their language...or to have a cute little ability that sets you apart from others...whispering French into a gals ear is attractive. Theres nothing wrong with that IMO. I thought you were pulling the ol' Gold Pile trickery of lying about who you are in order to get laid. (granted, I think he's since abandoned that plan...yaayy) So, I apologize for my rudeness. I've been going through some stuff, and have gotten pretty negative from time to time. I'm sorry for taking what your intentions are and interpreting them in a totally different way. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Well, just thought I'd throw in yet another idea or gimmick, that I will play around with, which doesn't sound so bad after all. Learn a foreign language, to have at least a working vocabulary with it, so you can have a basic conversation, and start travelling and hitting on foreign women. Oh that's sooo cute. Link to post Share on other sites
malachai Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Learn a foreign language, to have at least a working vocabulary with it, so you can have a basic conversation i can speak spanish, although it is pretty rough right now. many of my relatives are mexican, but my spanish came from high-school and college classes, not from learning it as i grew up. when i visit my relatives in mexico, women who i talk to in spanish find it cute when i speak to them, because my spanish is broken, but they see the effort and find it cute and endearing. however, the key here is "basic conversation". you can't just expect to learn some phrases, even many phrases, and think that that you can use those to impress a foreign girl. "basic conversation" means being able to fumble your way through a conversation, which means learning a lot of the language. if the work invested (and it is a lot of work) is worth it, then by all means, have at it. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucasarts Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Lucasarts -- or Lucasfilms -- the producer of the Star Wars franchise, meets one of the characters of the extended Star Wars Universe -- The Grand Admiral Thrawn. Ok. Your post has provided inspiration, that sometimes a weakness may be a strength in disguise, and that being perfect is not necessarily a prerequisite of being truely appreciated by those we seek to impress. hahahah well i chose the name cause i am an aspiring artist named Luke its my SN for everything i suppose, i thought it was clever at the time, not a way to rip off the name or anything in relation to the Star War's Universe. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 So, I apologize for my rudeness. I've been going through some stuff, and have gotten pretty negative from time to time. I'm sorry for taking what your intentions are and interpreting them in a totally different way. I think we've got chemistry. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Oh that's sooo cute. You need to get a life. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 You need to get a life. Editing to add to this message as follows: 1) The idea of learning a foreign language sounds like a much more refined way of scoring than just showing ladies that you have money or lying to them about your marriage status or something stupid like that, because this is a language skill. It is a base idea to simply show signs of wealth, or to show a girl that you have money. If you are really thinking of impressing a girl, by lying to her about being married, or spending your money to rent an expensive car, then it is more cost-effective and self-fulfilling to simply learn another language, educate yourself, and travel rather than doing something as base as the other ideas I've heard in this section. You may meet new people with a different mentality than just looking at how much money you have or dont have. 2) As far as 'hitting' on girls is concerned - I never said 'sexual harassment', which are two distinct concepts. As usual, there are people here, such as 'outcast' that are looking to twist everything I am posting here into the worst possible light. I hope that people who read this thread could learn refinement, culture, and be inpired to learn a new language, and expand social circules to include people who may speak a different language, and/or have a different mentality that is not all about money. Link to post Share on other sites
sparticuss Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Admiral...I've re-read this thread, and realized that I thought something completely different was amiss. I now see that you are just finding a way to meet various females, and have the ability to speak their language...or to have a cute little ability that sets you apart from others...whispering French into a gals ear is attractive. Theres nothing wrong with that IMO. I thought you were pulling the ol' Gold Pile trickery of lying about who you are in order to get laid. (granted, I think he's since abandoned that plan...yaayy) So, I apologize for my rudeness. I've been going through some stuff, and have gotten pretty negative from time to time. I'm sorry for taking what your intentions are and interpreting them in a totally different way. You don't have a very high opinion of guys do you Kat. Why did you blindly assume that the Admiral was trying to get smebody into the sack? Sure you've apologised but , believe me, it does'nt repair the damage. Admiral! Learn a language by all means but forget about trying to impress any female. The ones that need impressing aren't worth impressing. End of that story. Look at what youve just done in this board. 1/ You asked about a forigen language to impress the girls 2/ The girls were all totally unimpressed at the idea. 3/ Kat was morre than unimpressed. She was downright abusive 4/ You turned around and threw Kats abuse and blind assumptions back in her face. 5/ Kat apologised. She may not be impressed but she now respects you. It shouldn't happen like this Admiral but it usually does. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Sparticuss It wasn't only Kat who doubted the Admiral's intentions, and unlike Kat, I still do. His first lines are that he wants to, basically, find a way to 'hit on' women and this is a cool gig, he figures, to help him do it. I'm never impressed by fellows whose big goal in life is to 'hit on' women, particularly after having posted lengthy posts about how holy he is and others should be. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 'Hitting on women' has a negative connotation, while 'meeting women' would be a neutral expression. Admiral T. is either not fully grasping the English language or is indeed a hypocrite. I tend to believe the latter. I've read about ideas about impressing girls by pretending to be more wealthy than you really are, or about pretending that you are married, and lying about both. Well, just thought I'd throw in yet another idea or gimmick, that I will play around with, which doesn't sound so bad after all. He is listing his idea together will all the creepy stuff that other people do in order to deceive women. As he does not set apart the objective of his idea from the other ones, this does have to make people believe that he is out to deceive women as well. Overall he doesn't defend his idea of being more ethical, but as being more "cost-effective and self-fulfilling". In short, he likes his idea better, because it has more advantages not because it's preferable from a point of moral. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Well, just thought I'd throw in yet another idea or gimmick, that I will play around with, which doesn't sound so bad after all. Yet - because it does not sound bad, is not a proof of any moral virtues. Far from it. Learn a foreign language, to have at least a working vocabulary with it, so you can have a basic conversation, and start travelling and hitting on foreign women. Why? English will get you pretty far. Australia. The United Kingdom, Ireland, South Africa (and many other African countries), the US. In fact, in many countries in Europe, where English is not the primary language, many people speak English. You can communicate with the Dutch, most of the Belgians, most of the Germans, Danes, Swedes, Finns, although admittedly Eastern and Southern Europe will be a bit more troubling. With the exception of Spanish and French you would learn a language that would last you in one country only. Travel to a different place to go to a different world, different experience, different people, and different women. To what purpose? I somehow doubt you have the interest in meeting these "foreign" women just for the sole purpose of playing checkers. So there would always be a language barrier. And unless of course they speak English and are willing to adapt to your linguistic imperialism, you would have to become fluent in the language. Foreign girls? Since when is Quebec independent from the rest of Canada? And better yet, are you 100% confident that a Quebecois woman will appreciate "Viva France?" It is not even French. If you are really thinking of impressing a girl, by lying to her about being married, or spending your money to rent an expensive car, then it is more cost-effective and self-fulfilling to simply learn another language, educate yourself, and travel rather than doing something as base as the other ideas I've heard in this section. You may meet new people with a different mentality than just looking at how much money you have or dont have. Yet at the same time, engage in such ploys / schemes or whatever you prefer to call them, who are good to you because of attributes x,y, and z. Which are all highly desirable, and only 1 in 1000 women possess all three attributes. And if you are not worth that in the eyes, of said women, you will have to come up with ploys to improve your chances. Whether it is by faking wealth, faking moral virtues, faking this or that, it all is the same. Pretending you are someone you are not. Sadly, nationality is one of them --> Mail-order brides, anyone? Wealth is one of the desired attributes. And many more. And since when is traveling holy anyways? Just because half of the world's art treasures are in Italy, does not mean that you would have to spend half your life in Italy to become cultured. And what is culture anyway? 2) As far as 'hitting' on girls is concerned - I never said 'sexual harassment', which are two distinct concepts. No, you said: If you impress a girl, you can do whatever you want if she is into you. Quite an hedonistic and self-centered statement. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 'Hitting on women' has a negative connotation, while 'meeting women' would be a neutral expression. Admiral T. is either not fully grasping the English language or is indeed a hypocrite. I tend to believe the latter. He is listing his idea together will all the creepy stuff that other people do in order to deceive women. As he does not set apart the objective of his idea from the other ones, this does have to make people believe that he is out to deceive women as well. Overall he doesn't defend his idea of being more ethical, but as being more "cost-effective and self-fulfilling". In short, he likes his idea better, because it has more advantages not because it's preferable from a point of moral. Another person who is jumping on a band-wagon, notice she does not address me in 'First-person' (she is saying 'he', rather than 'you'), she cant look in my face and say what she recklessly trying to say - even gramatically. Anybody can do that. Let me now address her reckless post: You are saying that I am 'deceiving' people by speaking another lanugage, and telling them I am studying it? People who see you fumbling with another language, think it is cute, and want to help you out. That is not deception. It may be a language 'prop', but it is an honest one. It is already understood that this idea is more moral, or ethical. People who are interested in funny schemes aren't interested in moral or ethics, and have to be reasoned with at their own level. I do not bash other people's threads I dont agree with, I simply put an alternative way, or better way. I see this as more productive at the end of the day. It seems that you like bashing ideas that encourage bringing the best out of people , or maybe all you can do is just bash ideas you dont agree with, despite the fact it may really be a good idea. I dont think you are a healthy contributor to this section, that is all about people finding and connecting with someone, pleutonically, romantically, or intimately, who are having a difficult time doing so. The last time I read it, this was a 'seeking' that dealt with transition. How are you contributing here? Ask yourself that. This whole thread is about bringing the best out of people. Teaching people to learn a different language, explore a different culture, and have a sence of adventure. It's not about showing money to impress girls for sex. By bashing both ideas, you are actually exonerating people who have posted about using money to impress girls for sex indirectly, or about people posting to lie to girls that they are married, so they will have sex with them. Is this the position you want to have? I want people to be exposed to cultured and healthy ideas about approaching the opposite sex, and if you have a problem with that, then I think you are the hypocrite, not me, becasue all you care about is attention, and joining a band-wagon. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 Yet - because it does not sound bad' date=' is not a proof of any moral virtues. Far from it.[/quote'] As you can see, I am not preaching to other people about morality in this thread. There is a religious section for that. This section is about meeting women. Do you actually have a relationship with someone, or are you another person that has nothing to do but bash threads? Well, at least you can talk in first-person, so I respect that. Why? English will get you pretty far. Australia. The United Kingdom, Ireland, South Africa (and many other African countries), the US. Why not? In fact, in many countries in Europe, where English is not the primary language, many people speak English. You can communicate with the Dutch, most of the Belgians, most of the Germans, Danes, Swedes, Finns, although admittedly Eastern and Southern Europe will be a bit more troubling. With the exception of Spanish and French you would learn a language that would last you in one country only. Canada has two official languages, English and French. Ideally, all Canadians should learn to speak both language. The only truely bi-lingual places in Canada is Federal cities, like Ottawa, or Montreal, or parts in Quebec that is geographically close to Ontario. To what purpose? I somehow doubt you have the interest in meeting these "foreign" women just for the sole purpose of playing checkers. So there would always be a language barrier. And unless of course they speak English and are willing to adapt to your linguistic imperialism, you would have to become fluent in the language. Who are you to presume what purposes people have in here. Of course, it would seem more queer for people to do that as opposed to having sex, I guess that just shows how base people's minds in here are. That can not be helped I suppose. Foreign girls? Since when is Quebec independent from the rest of Canada? And better yet, are you 100% confident that a Quebecois woman will appreciate "Viva France?" It is not even French. Who said Quebec is different from Canada? Foreign means anything that is 'alien' to your comfort zone. Quebec may be part of Canada, but is different in language and culture enough, to be considered foreign in a sence of the term. I guess it is another reason to be proud of being a Canadian. We are one of the best multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, diverse societies on the planet - if not the best, and ranked as one of the best nations in the world to live in. Yet at the same time, engage in such ploys / schemes or whatever you prefer to call them, who are good to you because of attributes x,y, and z. Which are all highly desirable, and only 1 in 1000 women possess all three attributes. And if you are not worth that in the eyes, of said women, you will have to come up with ploys to improve your chances. Whether it is by faking wealth, faking moral virtues, faking this or that, it all is the same. Pretending you are someone you are not. How can you be pretending to learn a language and practising it on people, if that is what you are actually doing? Sadly, nationality is one of them --> Mail-order brides, anyone? Wealth is one of the desired attributes. And many more. I never talked about mail-order brides. And since when is traveling holy anyways? Just because half of the world's art treasures are in Italy, does not mean that you would have to spend half your life in Italy to become cultured. And what is culture anyway? I never said travelling in itself was holy, but it certainly is theraputic, and people who can afford to travel, without breaking their bank account, should really do so. I never talked about Italy in my thread. Being 'cultured' is seen as a positive attribute, that means having the ability to talk different languages. It is an internal attribute, not an external one. It is about who you are, not about what you have. No, you said: Quite an hedonistic and self-centered statement. Because you are a hedonsistic and self-centered person, you will interpret it as such a statement. It was really an open statement. You can interpret it any way you like. Since you would obviously do the most basis thing, if you had an opportunity to do whatever you wanted to with a girl, that is the way you will interpret it. What can I say? Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 This section is about meeting women. Does that mean that suddenly everything is allowed according to you or anyone? I doubt it. Do you actually have a relationship with someone, or are you another person that has nothing to do but bash threads? If only you knew the truth ... but I assume that making assumptions is the part where you really shine. If doubting the "infinite wisdom" of Admiral Thrawn is enough to warrant a personal attack, let those attacks come. Well, at least you can talk in first-person, so I respect that. Yet, somehow you could not resist taking the "moral liberty" to doubt my motives. Makes the third quote a bit void of meaning, though. Who are you to presume what purposes people have in here. Simply repeating statements you made in this thread. Of course, it would seem more queer for people to do that as opposed to having sex, I guess that just shows how base people's minds in here are. That can not be helped I suppose. Awww, you could not resist to engage in more moral bashing? Or was the moral superiority all you aimed for by writing this? Who said Quebec is different from Canada? Foreign means anything that is 'alien' to your comfort zone. Possibly, but not necessary. Far from it. I have foreign currency, but I am not uncomfortable having it. How can you be pretending to learn a language and practising it on people, if that is what you are actually doing? Why then present it as a ploy to meet women? Because in your original post you wrote: Well, just thought I'd throw in yet another idea or gimmick, that I will play around with, which doesn't sound so bad after all. Learn a foreign language, to have at least a working vocabulary with it, so you can have a basic conversation, and start travelling and hitting on foreign women. Me thinks, it start playing Scrabble with French words - but of course the source of that is your own words, so I must be mistaken in that. I never talked about mail-order brides. Nor did I say, that you did. I never said travelling in itself was holy, but it certainly is theraputic, and people who can afford to travel, without breaking their bank account, should really do so. Last time I checked, this was not the categorical imperative. Being 'cultured' is seen as a positive attribute, that means having the ability to talk different languages. No, that has little to do with being cultured. It may help but is far from necessary for it. Depending on your own definition of culture, you may want to pick up classical music, opera, novels from the 16th-20th century, keep up with the trends in architecture & design, do some reading of Freud, and a few other psychologists who have had a major impact on our society. Perhaps even do a reading of philosophers like Spinoza, Kant, Hegel, Locke, Hume, Marx, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Foucault, et cetera, and you may be getting somewhere. It is an internal attribute, not an external one. It is about who you are, not about what you have. Yes, but there is no guarantee that by virtue of your travels or your language skills you have improved an internal attribute. Have you studied the pictures people make on their holidays when going to those places full of culture? And how people use those pictures to retrieve their memories? Because you are a hedonsistic and self-centered person, you will interpret it as such a statement. Au contraire. I would deny that, as the thought of being a self-centered person and hedonistic is one most people feverishly try to avoid - whether it is because of guilt or other reasons, I do not know. But if I were in fact hedonistic and self-centered why should I see a problem there, Admiral Thrawn? Since you would obviously do the most basis thing, if you had an opportunity to do whatever you wanted to with a girl, that is the way you will interpret it. What can I say? Another asssumption that simply is false. If you studied psychodynamic theories (which is also one of the few things you may want to consider), you would come up with for instance: That you are in denial about the interpretation you are denying yourself, to make about your own statement? In short that you are having a guilt-trip about your own position in a roundabout way? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 Does that mean that suddenly everything is allowed according to you or anyone? I doubt it. Oh, so now you are preaching to everyone here then? Guess you are a preacher then? If only you knew the truth ... but I assume that making assumptions is the part where you really shine. If doubting the "infinite wisdom" of Admiral Thrawn is enough to warrant a personal attack, let those attacks come. I asked you a valid question because I think you are hijacking or trolling my thread. The subject matter is in line with the general purpose of this section, which is for people who dont have a girlfriend, wife, or even friend, and is trying to get somewhere with women. Your last post has contributed nothing to the end of this stated purpose on this board. So, I'm asking, why the heck are you here? Do you actually have some advice or suggestion to give other trolling around? Why then present it as a ploy to meet women? Because in your original post you wrote: Because that is the subject of this section of the board. If you dont like it there are other sections. This thread is relevant to the general category. No, that has little to do with being cultured. It may help but is far from necessary for it. Depending on your own definition of culture, you may want to pick up classical music, opera, novels from the 16th-20th century, keep up with the trends in architecture & design, do some reading of Freud, and a few other psychologists who have had a major impact on our society. Perhaps even do a reading of philosophers like Spinoza, Kant, Hegel, Locke, Hume, Marx, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Foucault, et cetera, and you may be getting somewhere. This is probably the only valid suggestion that you have made to this thread. However, it is obviously still a virtue to learn a different language since girls generally think it is 'cute', as other posters had said, especially when you are struggling and need their help. It becomes a great prop. Yes, but there is no guarantee that by virtue of your travels or your language skills you have improved an internal attribute. Have you studied the pictures people make on their holidays when going to those places full of culture? And how people use those pictures to retrieve their memories? What is the relevance of this on anything? Au contraire. I would deny that, as the thought of being a self-centered person and hedonistic is one most people feverishly try to avoid - whether it is because of guilt or other reasons, I do not know. But if I were in fact hedonistic and self-centered why should I see a problem there, Admiral Thrawn? How is this relevant to the discussion of meeting women, socialising, getting dates? Another asssumption that simply is false. If you studied psychodynamic theories (which is also one of the few things you may want to consider), you would come up with for instance: That you are in denial about the interpretation you are denying yourself, to make about your own statement? In short that you are having a guilt-trip about your own position in a roundabout way? I have a degree in Psychology, FYI. Your psychology ploy will backfire if you want to get girls scared of you, or think of you as a therapist-friend instead of scoring any points in the lover or relationship department. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I will make it short and not work through this whole nonsense post. I don't care if your intentions are more pure than holy water, you come across as a slimebag, and I think most women will agree with me in this point. Do I really care that you get upset and tell me that I'm wrong about you? Not really, you seem to be a very unpleasant person and if you want to have a girlfriend one day you might reconsider working on yourself. I really don't think you need more criticism or punishment from me, because you are your worst enemy when it comes to meeting anybody. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 I will make it short and not work through this whole nonsense post. I don't care if your intentions are more pure than holy water, you come across as a slimebag, and I think most women will agree with me in this point. Do I really care that you get upset and tell me that I'm wrong about you? Not really, you seem to be a very unpleasant person and if you want to have a girlfriend one day you might reconsider working on yourself. I really don't think you need more criticism or punishment from me, because you are your worst enemy when it comes to meeting anybody. Right. Another poster here who has nothing to contribute to helping anyone get anywhere. Girls like you are a dime a dozen, Looney, and are the reason this stupid section exists in the first place. Either you have some constructive element to contribute to this discussion, or you are like any other girl a guy will get dissed at when they approach at a bar, or anywhere else, who is too full of themselves and is on cloud 9. Sure, every guy that approaches them is a sleeze. Why dont you just go back to the bars and do what you are good at. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Um, you maybe want to look again at the theme of the section, since you have misinterpreted it completely. Here's a thought; master English before you strike out into other tongues. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 Um, you maybe want to look again at the theme of the section, since you have misinterpreted it completely. Here's a thought; master English before you strike out into other tongues. I think you should read the theme, because I'm right on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Have you considered that if you were coming up with truly brilliant plans that someone might agree with you? At some point, if you're on an advice forum, you should consider taking the advice you're given. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 Have you considered that if you were coming up with truly brilliant plans that someone might agree with you? At some point, if you're on an advice forum, you should consider taking the advice you're given. Ignorance knows no bounds. If you bother reading this thread you'll find that people actually have agreed with my advice. They have thought girls find this cute, and they have got 'tongue action'. It impresses girls. End of story. Those who did not agree, instead of stating their objections in a civilised manner, have instead choosen to go on a character attack, and have instead poisoned the thread. Those who do not agree, have not even tried this out and said it failed. So, I do not know what you are doing here or what you are posting, because, really you dont make any sence. Link to post Share on other sites
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