Alpacalia Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Orochilove said: I want to make it untoxic, like be more kind and understanding, but when I get triggered I can’t help but explode, I can’t seem to control it. to be honest he was much more stable than me. I just wish he would forget about this girl and come running to me begging for forgiveness. Whichever. Both of you need to work on yourselves separately before trying to have a healthy relationship again. You both have deep-rooted issues that require professional help. He needs therapy for working through his emotional unavailability and brokenness, and you need therapy to control your triggers and communicate effectively. I suggest focusing on personal growth. If you truly care about each other, seek therapy and address your individual issues before anything else. If it's meant to be, it will happen naturally in a healthier way. But for now, you need to prioritize your own mental health and well-being. Let him work out his issues and don't allow him back into your mind for a while, let him explore this relationship with this Russian girl. If it doesn't work out, that's on him. But you need to focus on yourself and healing from this toxic relationship. Don't make any decisions based on his actions or try to "make him forget about her." Edited May 28 by Alpacalia Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: but when I get triggered I can’t help but explode, I can’t seem to control it. Yes you can help it, you need to put in the efforts by getting yourself anger management therapy. This is something you need to get under control. You cannot have a full life and hurting people with your anger and then claim you can't help it That's abusers excuses. One day your anger will be aimed at your husband, your children, your aging parents, your employer. You will lose important people because of it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, Orochilove said: I just wish he would forget about this girl and come running to me begging for forgiveness. Why do you wish that? Why do you want this weak, immature, manipulative guy back? It might very well happen that his new girlfriend leaves him and he’ll really run to you begging for your forgiveness. But don’t you understand that his motive for doing that won’t be some kind of great love for you, but weakness of character and fear of loneliness? If he truly loved you he wouldn’t be with another girl, period. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 15 hours ago, Alpacalia said: Whichever. Both of you need to work on yourselves separately before trying to have a healthy relationship again. You both have deep-rooted issues that require professional help. He needs therapy for working through his emotional unavailability and brokenness, and you need therapy to control your triggers and communicate effectively. I suggest focusing on personal growth. If you truly care about each other, seek therapy and address your individual issues before anything else. If it's meant to be, it will happen naturally in a healthier way. But for now, you need to prioritize your own mental health and well-being. Let him work out his issues and don't allow him back into your mind for a while, let him explore this relationship with this Russian girl. If it doesn't work out, that's on him. But you need to focus on yourself and healing from this toxic relationship. Don't make any decisions based on his actions or try to "make him forget about her." Thank you for that. I think I will do this…I just don’t know what to do if and when he’ll show up and beg me to stay with him. I might be too weak to say no Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 13 hours ago, Gaeta said: Yes you can help it, you need to put in the efforts by getting yourself anger management therapy. This is something you need to get under control. You cannot have a full life and hurting people with your anger and then claim you can't help it That's abusers excuses. One day your anger will be aimed at your husband, your children, your aging parents, your employer. You will lose important people because of it. I really do try but I can’t seem to control it. I feel so embarrassed when it happens. I will seek therapy to try to get it under control better Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 (edited) 10 hours ago, Gebidozo said: Why do you wish that? Why do you want this weak, immature, manipulative guy back? It might very well happen that his new girlfriend leaves him and he’ll really run to you begging for your forgiveness. But don’t you understand that his motive for doing that won’t be some kind of great love for you, but weakness of character and fear of loneliness? If he truly loved you he wouldn’t be with another girl, period. I want this because I believe people can fall into their own traps. From what I know of him and when we’re together, he barely even looked at another woman, was very attentive to me all of the time. he even financially supported me with food and some bills and we generally had a great time together overall minus our frequent arguments. i see their pics on her IG she seems very happy with him but i know deep inside of him he wishes it was me he’s doing this with. He wrote to me today how he still wants to talk but I still didn’t respond to him for almost 2 months now. I want to believe I’m the one for him because he is still reaching out to me despite that he has someone and he’s told me that he wants to do everything with me and will leave her if I give him a chance. Edited May 29 by Orochilove Link to post Share on other sites
Alpacalia Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 20 minutes ago, Orochilove said: Thank you for that. I think I will do this…I just don’t know what to do if and when he’ll show up and beg me to stay with him. I might be too weak to say no I still contend that you and he are a bad combo and it's not cool that he's still trying with you when he has someone else. Maybe that will open your eyes a bit. Imagine her reaching out to you in the near future if you two became a couple again: it would hurt, it would be shady and it would be unfair to her. Do you want to be that woman just so he can have a pet-free relationship? I get that it doesn't necessarily seem fair that she gets to have him, with a pup and all, but that's the decision he's made and you still haven't told him that you are willing to get past any issues whatever way you must. I know it's hard, but it may be time to let go and move on. Focus on finding someone who is more compatible with you and who doesn't have such a large stumbling block in your relationship. You deserve to be with someone who can give you the affection and love that you need, without constantly triggering you. Even if he did leave his current girlfriend and come back to you, there would always be the underlying issue of his dog and his robotic nature which you say you dislike and it would likely cause problems in your relationship again at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 55 minutes ago, Orochilove said: From what I know of him and when we’re together, he barely even looked at another woman, was very attentive to me all of the time. he even financially supported me with food and some bills and we generally had a great time together overall minus our frequent arguments. These are just basic things that any normal, decent guy would do in a relationship. In a good relationship you wouldn’t be having frequent arguments, either. You were just complaining how he lacked affection, it was so serious that you broke up with him, why are you changing your mind now? Did he suddenly become a great guy after you broke up? No, he’s been stalking you, emotionally manipulating you, and is having a great time screwing a new girl. He’s shown his true colors. Why would anyone want such a guy back? Don’t tell me you suddenly crave him just because someone else has him now. Are you that shallow and disrespectful of yourself? 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: i see their pics on her IG she seems very happy with him but i know deep inside of him he wishes it was me he’s doing this with. First of all, how can you be certain that he wishes that? He seems to be quite happy being with that girl and at the same time having you on a string like a puppet, a convenient safety net to jump into if things go awry. Second, suppose you’re right and he does wish to be with you. Then his behavior is immoral. He’s sleeping with one woman while secretly craving another. Don’t you think it’s disgusting? You should be squeamish enough not to get back with such a guy. 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: I want to believe I’m the one for him because he is still reaching out to me despite that he has someone and he’s told me that he wants to do everything with me and will leave her if I give him a chance. Once again, if he really loved you he wouldn’t be together with that girl. And once again, your relationship was a mess and he’s only gotten worse since you broke up. OP, do you even read what people write to you? You keep repeating the same meaningless mantras and show no signs of listening to advices. I feel like I’m wasting my time. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, Alpacalia said: I still contend that you and he are a bad combo and it's not cool that he's still trying with you when he has someone else. Maybe that will open your eyes a bit. Imagine her reaching out to you in the near future if you two became a couple again: it would hurt, it would be shady and it would be unfair to her. Do you want to be that woman just so he can have a pet-free relationship? I get that it doesn't necessarily seem fair that she gets to have him, with a pup and all, but that's the decision he's made and you still haven't told him that you are willing to get past any issues whatever way you must. I know it's hard, but it may be time to let go and move on. Focus on finding someone who is more compatible with you and who doesn't have such a large stumbling block in your relationship. You deserve to be with someone who can give you the affection and love that you need, without constantly triggering you. Even if he did leave his current girlfriend and come back to you, there would always be the underlying issue of his dog and his robotic nature which you say you dislike and it would likely cause problems in your relationship again at some point. You may be right. We were not very compatible from the start. But for some reason I felt a deep connection to him, and he forgave all of my bad behaviors. I think he’s being real when he says he wants me. But I can’t get over the fact why he’s still with the other girl, if he wants me. Last time I said this he said what if you don’t want to compromise with me? I know what I’m doing is wrong but I don’t want to be alone. I know it’s not fair to the new girl either, but I can’t go on alone without you, I would need a rebound and I’m just being honest. but maybe you’re right, it’s time to move on. I’ll be going back home in 20 days and I know for sure he’s been showing up at my house few times a week to check if im back. He would never physically harm me, because many times I blew up on him he was always calm and tried to calm me down and even when he’s mad he never raised his voice. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 25 minutes ago, Gebidozo said: These are just basic things that any normal, decent guy would do in a relationship. In a good relationship you wouldn’t be having frequent arguments, either. You were just complaining how he lacked affection, it was so serious that you broke up with him, why are you changing your mind now? Did he suddenly become a great guy after you broke up? No, he’s been stalking you, emotionally manipulating you, and is having a great time screwing a new girl. He’s shown his true colors. Why would anyone want such a guy back? Don’t tell me you suddenly crave him just because someone else has him now. Are you that shallow and disrespectful of yourself? First of all, how can you be certain that he wishes that? He seems to be quite happy being with that girl and at the same time having you on a string like a puppet, a convenient safety net to jump into if things go awry. Second, suppose you’re right and he does wish to be with you. Then his behavior is immoral. He’s sleeping with one woman while secretly craving another. Don’t you think it’s disgusting? You should be squeamish enough not to get back with such a guy. Once again, if he really loved you he wouldn’t be together with that girl. And once again, your relationship was a mess and he’s only gotten worse since you broke up. OP, do you even read what people write to you? You keep repeating the same meaningless mantras and show no signs of listening to advices. I feel like I’m wasting my time. I understand what people are advising me, but how do I just move on? I can’t stop thinking about him, I’ve been crying for 2 months now and feel almost suicidal. he did lack affection not in a traditional sense but what I needed. I like calling each other cute names and he just called me sweety and babe. I didn’t want him to pat his dog when I was at his house and he would run to his dog and wrestle with the dog for a minute when he would get home and it would trigger me. what he’s doing is wrong I completely understand this, but this is out of his character. I know people that knew him for 20 years and he’s always been a loyal and loving person. I really do think I messed up his head quite badly. I know he has abandonment issues and has extreme fear of this and it probably triggered him. do guys ever have back up woman? I know girls do this sometimes but he told me he’s just thinking of me all of the time when he’s with her but he did mention he’s going to need a rebound if I was to not compromise with him because he has too much going on and don’t want to be alone. maybe im just stupid. Im so angry and unable to move on because I know who he is and his current behavior is completely not who he is. Link to post Share on other sites
Alpacalia Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 32 minutes ago, Orochilove said: You may be right. We were not very compatible from the start. But for some reason I felt a deep connection to him, and he forgave all of my bad behaviors. I think he’s being real when he says he wants me. But I can’t get over the fact why he’s still with the other girl, if he wants me. Last time I said this he said what if you don’t want to compromise with me? I know what I’m doing is wrong but I don’t want to be alone. I know it’s not fair to the new girl either, but I can’t go on alone without you, I would need a rebound and I’m just being honest. but maybe you’re right, it’s time to move on. I’ll be going back home in 20 days and I know for sure he’s been showing up at my house few times a week to check if im back. He would never physically harm me, because many times I blew up on him he was always calm and tried to calm me down and even when he’s mad he never raised his voice. He is holding on to this other woman for security and comfort. For all your breakups and arguments, you went back to him and never left him for good. You always forgave him and he knows that. That is why he knows he has a chance with you and that you will always be there for him. He is using this other woman as a backup plan and a source of validation and attention while he tries to work things out with you. If he was serious about patching things up with you and starting fresh, he would cut off all contact with this other woman and prove to you that he is committed to fixing things. But he is still maintaining a relationship with her and not fully letting her go, which indicates that he is still emotionally attached to her and not fully invested in making things work with you. Now, I don't agree with what he is doing but I also understand his perspective. He was hurt and broken from previous relationships and he found comfort and validation in this other woman when you were not together. And when you broke up with him again, he didn't want to be left alone so he continued to seek comfort from her. He is not emotionally strong enough to be on his own and face his own issues. That is why he is holding on to her and depending on her for emotional support. But that doesn't excuse his behavior and the fact that he is keeping you on the backburner. My advice to you is to not give in to him. He will continue to plead and apologize and say all the right things to get you back, but his actions speak louder than his words. He is not fully committed to making things work with you, and constantly seeking attention and validation from other women is not a healthy habit in a relationship. Don't let him manipulate and guilt trip you into giving him another chance. Take time for yourself, focus on your own healing and well-being, and if he truly cares for you, he will respect your decision and give you the space you need. He's not doing that. Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 58 minutes ago, Orochilove said: I understand what people are advising me, but how do I just move on? I can’t stop thinking about him, I’ve been crying for 2 months now and feel almost suicidal. You move on by working on precisely these problems. By understanding that these are your problems, which have nothing to do with that guy and which you need to solve by learning to love and respect yourself, by becoming self-sufficient, by being fine when you’re single. You keep thinking that you’re crying and contemplating suicide because he was so great and you loved him so much. You’re mistaken. Love has very little to do with that. 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: I like calling each other cute names and he just called me sweety and babe. So what? Not everyone is comfortable with cute names. Calling you “sweetie” and “babe” is a display of affection. Just because he never called you “delicious treacle honey pumpkin kitten munchkin juice” doesn’t mean he wasn’t affectionate. 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: I didn’t want him to pat his dog when I was at his house and he would run to his dog and wrestle with the dog for a minute when he would get home and it would trigger me. What? I didn’t know that. You said he was more affectionate to the dog than to you, I naturally assumed that he was completely cold to you, depriving you of love while heaping it on the dog. What you’re saying now is completely different, it’s you being controlling, possessive, and jealous. What right do you have to interfere in his relationship with his dog? I stand by what I said before, you’re both toxic and immature, and you both lack self respect. 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: I know he has abandonment issues and has extreme fear of this and it probably triggered him. No kidding. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you. He clings to you not because he loves you, but because he doesn’t want to be alone. He doesn’t respect himself enough to break it off completely with a girl who is jealous of his dog (!). But of course he finds consolation in the arms of a nicer girl right now. 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: do guys ever have back up woman? Only insecure, immature guys with no self respect and no ability to love. 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: I know girls do this sometimes Only insecure, immature girls with no self respect and no ability to love. 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: he did mention he’s going to need a rebound if I was to not compromise with him because he has too much going on and don’t want to be alone. And you still want to be together with this weak little kid? 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: maybe im just stupid. Im so angry and unable to move on because I know who he is and his current behavior is completely not who he is. It’s exactly the opposite, you now know who he really is, and that angers you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, Alpacalia said: He is holding on to this other woman for security and comfort. For all your breakups and arguments, you went back to him and never left him for good. You always forgave him and he knows that. That is why he knows he has a chance with you and that you will always be there for him. He is using this other woman as a backup plan and a source of validation and attention while he tries to work things out with you. If he was serious about patching things up with you and starting fresh, he would cut off all contact with this other woman and prove to you that he is committed to fixing things. But he is still maintaining a relationship with her and not fully letting her go, which indicates that he is still emotionally attached to her and not fully invested in making things work with you. Now, I don't agree with what he is doing but I also understand his perspective. He was hurt and broken from previous relationships and he found comfort and validation in this other woman when you were not together. And when you broke up with him again, he didn't want to be left alone so he continued to seek comfort from her. He is not emotionally strong enough to be on his own and face his own issues. That is why he is holding on to her and depending on her for emotional support. But that doesn't excuse his behavior and the fact that he is keeping you on the backburner. My advice to you is to not give in to him. He will continue to plead and apologize and say all the right things to get you back, but his actions speak louder than his words. He is not fully committed to making things work with you, and constantly seeking attention and validation from other women is not a healthy habit in a relationship. Don't let him manipulate and guilt trip you into giving him another chance. Take time for yourself, focus on your own healing and well-being, and if he truly cares for you, he will respect your decision and give you the space you need. He's not doing that. I think is exactly what he’s doing. He just finds comfort knowing someone is there for him. Yes I forgave him every time, but during our relationship really if I’m being completely honest, I was the problem. He was usually calm and very relaxed and chill person and was there for me everytime I needed help but I blew up on him many times for seemingly small things. he says he’s serious, I think he wanted me to say cut her off if you want to work things out with me. But because I never told him That he keeps emailing me saying “just tell me what you want me to do? What do I have to do to get a conversation with you?” And I never responded just pretending to ghost him for hurting me. i will try not to give in, not sure if i cannot but I’ll try my best. He has a way with words and never giving up, so I really hope that I can stand strong and not give into him. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 28 minutes ago, Gebidozo said: You move on by working on precisely these problems. By understanding that these are your problems, which have nothing to do with that guy and which you need to solve by learning to love and respect yourself, by becoming self-sufficient, by being fine when you’re single. You keep thinking that you’re crying and contemplating suicide because he was so great and you loved him so much. You’re mistaken. Love has very little to do with that. So what? Not everyone is comfortable with cute names. Calling you “sweetie” and “babe” is a display of affection. Just because he never called you “delicious treacle honey pumpkin kitten munchkin juice” doesn’t mean he wasn’t affectionate. What? I didn’t know that. You said he was more affectionate to the dog than to you, I naturally assumed that he was completely cold to you, depriving you of love while heaping it on the dog. What you’re saying now is completely different, it’s you being controlling, possessive, and jealous. What right do you have to interfere in his relationship with his dog? I stand by what I said before, you’re both toxic and immature, and you both lack self respect. No kidding. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you. He clings to you not because he loves you, but because he doesn’t want to be alone. He doesn’t respect himself enough to break it off completely with a girl who is jealous of his dog (!). But of course he finds consolation in the arms of a nicer girl right now. Only insecure, immature guys with no self respect and no ability to love. Only insecure, immature girls with no self respect and no ability to love. And you still want to be together with this weak little kid? It’s exactly the opposite, you now know who he really is, and that angers you. I feel he’s the reason why I became more insecure. He never gave me the affection I needed which was more than he was giving. and you’re right he was never cold to me, he always held my hand when we go some where, pull out my chair for me, open doors he did all those little things very consistently. He trusted me as he would often leave me at his house while he went to his office, and I went through his stuff and found old pics with his ex wife. And I got angry because he did things with her he never did with me. Like taking photo booth pictures, overseas trip and etc. he said he isn’t as financially healthy as before as his ex wife took more than 50% of his entire net worth and he’s in the process of building it back up. he said he didn’t know the pics existed and I do believe that because it was stuffed inside a bag in his attic along with bunch of other garbage. I also found a picture of another girl and her friend like some Sort of sticker and I had no idea who she was. He told me it was his ex’s friend and the date confirmed so I believed him. is it normal to love a dog that much? I felt disgusted because he would say things like this is like my little child, i love her and i would argue with him that he was mentally challenged because he looked at a dog like a child. I do want to be with him, but im not sure if i can after knowing he slept with another woman and is still together with her while emailing me what i want him to do to speak to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 5 minutes ago, Orochilove said: is it normal to love a dog that much? I felt disgusted because he would say things like this is like my little child, i love her and i would argue with him that he was mentally challenged because he looked at a dog like a child. That’s an awful thing to say. If you were my GF and you said something like this the first time I’d tell my favorite pet rabbit “Come, give Daddy a kiss!” (she’d then lick my nose), I’d break up with you right there. My fiancée is affectionate to my rabbits even though they were raised by my ex. She’d never get in the way of my relationship with them. Similarly, I support her interest in the lives of her dogs, which are staying with her ex now. I can only imagine how you’d handle that kind of thing. Trying to control your partner’s relationship with relatives, friends, and pets is a sure way to a breakup. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, Orochilove said: s it normal to love a dog that much? I felt disgusted because he would say things like this is like my little child, i love her and i would argue with him that he was mentally challenged because he looked at a dog like a child. Are you and this ex of different culture? I loved my dog beyond words, l was very affectionnate toward it, he followed me everywhere, he slept on foot of my bed every night. Where l'm from it's normal, people love their pets like they are part of family. My ex-bf was from a culture that dogs belong outside but he understood this was cultural, that my dog was in my life before him so he had to adjust to my life, not the other way around. I would never have dated a man that thought my affection for my dog was disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 5 hours ago, Gebidozo said: That’s an awful thing to say. If you were my GF and you said something like this the first time I’d tell my favorite pet rabbit “Come, give Daddy a kiss!” (she’d then lick my nose), I’d break up with you right there. My fiancée is affectionate to my rabbits even though they were raised by my ex. She’d never get in the way of my relationship with them. Similarly, I support her interest in the lives of her dogs, which are staying with her ex now. I can only imagine how you’d handle that kind of thing. Trying to control your partner’s relationship with relatives, friends, and pets is a sure way to a breakup. I didn’t think it was awful it’s an animal. I grew up this way and everyone in my family said it’s not normal. after some time he reduced the attention he gives to his dog in front of me. But still I flipped out many times because he would pat her while he’s with me when I asked him not to.. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 18 minutes ago, Orochilove said: after some time he reduced the attention he gives to his dog in front of me. But still I flipped out many times because he would pat her while he’s with me when I asked him not to.. Why would you flip out because he pets his dog while with you? That would be the last straw if it were me. You seem to hate his dog and if you guys got together he could not trust leaving his dog with you. You might purposely let something happen to it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Alpacalia Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 31 minutes ago, Orochilove said: after some time he reduced the attention he gives to his dog in front of me. But still I flipped out many times because he would pat her while he’s with me when I asked him not to.. That's some serious 21st century entitlement there. You "flipped out" on this guy every time he patted his dog in front of you? What the frig are you doing even dating this guy if you can't handle some friendly gestures with his dog? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, Orochilove said: I grew up this way and everyone in my family said it’s not normal It's not normal for your culture. It's normal for half the planet though. If you lived in North America it's pretty normal to be affectionate towards our pets. If you want to date someone from a different culture you need to loosen up a little. Link to post Share on other sites
SoulCat Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 7 hours ago, Orochilove said: He trusted me as he would often leave me at his house while he went to his office, and I went through his stuff and found old pics with his ex wife. Wow, just wow. He trusted you enough to leave you alone in his home while he was at work, and this is how you repay him? 7 hours ago, Orochilove said: he said he didn’t know the pics existed and I do believe that because it was stuffed inside a bag in his attic along with bunch of other garbage. What the hell, lady? You went through his stuff that was packed away in his attic? You had absolutely no right to rifle through the man's personal belongings. On what planet is it okay to violate someone's boundaries like that, in their own home? I would have been furious if someone did that to me, and I would have tossed your backside out without hesitation. For good. And if that wasn't enough, you have the temerity to blow up at him for having done things with a previous partner that he hasn't done with you? That is so, so messed up. 7 hours ago, Orochilove said: is it normal to love a dog that much? I felt disgusted because he would say things like this is like my little child, i love her and i would argue with him that he was mentally challenged because he looked at a dog like a child. I don't even know where to start with this, as it's one of the most egregious things I've read in quite some time here. Absolutely vile. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SoulCat Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 19 minutes ago, Gaeta said: It's not normal for your culture. It's normal for half the planet though. If you lived in North America it's pretty normal to be affectionate towards our pets. If you want to date someone from a different culture you need to loosen up a little. I'm from the same country as OP originally, and she is very much an outlier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NuevoYorko Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 minutes ago, SoulCat said: I'm from the same country as OP originally, and she is very much an outlier. I know. I have family who live in the Netherlands and spend a lot of time there - seems like dogs have a higher place in society than a lot of people. OP is unique for being jealous of a beloved pet and this simply indicates that she has some deep seated self esteem issues that will stand in the way of ANY healthy relationship until they are addressed. If it's not a dog it will be something else. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, stillafool said: Why would you flip out because he pets his dog while with you? That would be the last straw if it were me. You seem to hate his dog and if you guys got together he could not trust leaving his dog with you. You might purposely let something happen to it. Because he spends all week with the dog but I only see him a few times a week and I wanted all of his attention to myself. I never hurt his dog but I didn’t like her because she also wanted to hang out with us all of the time. When were watching movies for example his dog want to be in between us and it used to annoy me alot Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, Alpacalia said: That's some serious 21st century entitlement there. You "flipped out" on this guy every time he patted his dog in front of you? What the frig are you doing even dating this guy if you can't handle some friendly gestures with his dog? I flipped out because I wanted his attention. I only got to see him a few times a week and I wanted all of his attention Link to post Share on other sites
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