Author Orochilove Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 4 hours ago, basil67 said: Both parties need to make an effort throughout the relationship. And this includes the woman making plans for dates too (yes, I am a woman) That said, the majority of people can't afford to go on dates "all of the time". Certainly not if they have rent or a mortgage to pay I asked him what he needed from me he said just be loyal and be good to him and he’ll take care of the rest. he took me out every weekend to eat and stuff. First he was hesitant to help me with bills and I made a mistake by calling him cheap and that was the first big fight we had because he said I was undermining his efforts. but I only said that because he bought fancy things for his ex wife but not me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 4 hours ago, Gebidozo said: So just because I don’t cheat on my fiancée, I have the right to say nasty things to her like you did to your ex? Just because I’m funnier than her ex I can yell at her? Just because I earn more money she should treat me better? That’s some twisted, childish logic you have there. That’s not what I mean but I was a better girl than her but he treated her better. He says no, but he said he gave me more time and more patience. Which I thought was BS Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 21 minutes ago, Orochilove said: That’s not what I mean but I was a better girl than her but he treated her better. He says no, but he said he gave me more time and more patience. Which I thought was BS Apparently she was a lesser s*** girlfriend than you were Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 7 minutes ago, Orochilove said: That’s not what I mean but I was a better girl than her but he treated her better. He says no, but he said he gave me more time and more patience. Which I thought was BS I don’t even know how to respond to this. Are you 12? What are those petty comparisons, demands, mind games? This has nothing to do with love. Grow up! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 On 6/1/2024 at 2:26 PM, basil67 said: Both parties need to make an effort throughout the relationship. And this includes the woman making plans for dates too (yes, I am a woman) That said, the majority of people can't afford to go on dates "all of the time". Certainly not if they have rent or a mortgage to pay Women don’t plan or pay for dates, I’ve never done that in my entire life. He was happy to plan and take me out every weekend. what he wanted from me was some home cooked meals and coffee when he wanted and we often fought about it because I said I only do that for my husband 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 18 hours ago, Gebidozo said: I don’t even know how to respond to this. Are you 12? What are those petty comparisons, demands, mind games? This has nothing to do with love. Grow up! I’m 29, and I’m not playing mind games. I’m just being me Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 4 minutes ago, Orochilove said: Women don’t plan or pay for dates, I’ve never done that in my entire life. He was happy to plan and take me out every weekend. what he wanted from me was some home cooked meals and coffee when he wanted and we often fought about it because I said I only do that for my husband I’m speechless...🤭 Sorry, I don’t believe that you’re Dutch. Unless you’re a time traveler from the 19th century Netherlands. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 6 minutes ago, Orochilove said: I’m 29, and I’m not playing mind games. I’m just being me I don’t know what to tell you. I can’t imagine a normal 21st century Western man wanting a serious relationship with someone so childish, so controlling, and having such outdated, primitive ideas about gender roles as you. Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: Women don’t plan or pay for dates, I’ve never done that in my entire life. He was happy to plan and take me out every weekend. what he wanted from me was some home cooked meals and coffee when he wanted and we often fought about it because I said I only do that for my husband I assure you that not all women follow your rules. I've planned and paid for dates. I also cooked plenty of meals for boyfriends because for me, food is one of the ways I show love. Other than grace him with your presence, what did you actually do for your boyfriend? Edited June 2 by basil67 1 Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: I’m 29, and I’m not playing mind games. I’m just being me How's that working for you? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 6 hours ago, Gebidozo said: I’m speechless...🤭 Sorry, I don’t believe that you’re Dutch. Unless you’re a time traveler from the 19th century Netherlands. Born and raised. But I always wanted to meet a provider man, like traditional. I want to be a house wife. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 5 hours ago, basil67 said: I assure you that not all women follow your rules. I've planned and paid for dates. I also cooked plenty of meals for boyfriends because for me, food is one of the ways I show love. Other than grace him with your presence, what did you actually do for your boyfriend? I was loyal to him, and also gave him my time. I also gave him access to my body which sometimes I wasn’t in the mood but I did it for him anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 5 hours ago, basil67 said: How's that working for you? Guys always want nothing serious with me and just try to have sex. But I’m a good girl, I don’t sleep around and have been only in 3 relationships all 3 very long. I really thought this man was my soul mate and my entire world is shattered Link to post Share on other sites
NuevoYorko Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 1 hour ago, Orochilove said: Born and raised. But I always wanted to meet a provider man, like traditional. I want to be a house wife. you wouldn't have time for selfies or whining about matching sneakers or black outfits. You'd be busy scrubbing and changing diapers. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 2 hours ago, NuevoYorko said: you wouldn't have time for selfies or whining about matching sneakers or black outfits. You'd be busy scrubbing and changing diapers. I’m ok with this as long as he marries me and takes care of me Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 4 hours ago, Orochilove said: Born and raised. But I always wanted to meet a provider man, like traditional. I want to be a house wife. Housewives don’t get jealous of their husbands’ dogs, whine about taking selfies, break up with their husbands and then deliberately ghost them. They are doing very hard housework and raise children. You weren’t at all like a housewife for your boyfriend. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 4 hours ago, Orochilove said: I was loyal to him, and also gave him my time. That’s what every normal girlfriend and every normal boyfriend do. It’s a basic relationship requirement. 4 hours ago, Orochilove said: I also gave him access to my body Your choice of words makes me cringe. Supposing that you mean “I agreed to have sex with him even when I wasn’t in the mood”, again, this is not something to be proud of. Normal partners make compromises for each other and learn to respect each other’s wishes in that area as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 5 hours ago, Orochilove said: But I’m a good girl, I don’t sleep around and have been only in 3 relationships all 3 very long. Oh, for the love of God… You not “sleeping around” has nothing to do with being a good person. Who cares how many relationships you’ve had? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 8 hours ago, Orochilove said: I was loyal to him, and also gave him my time. I also gave him access to my body which sometimes I wasn’t in the mood but I did it for him anyway. Ghosting on a guy three times is not loyal. And I'm not sure why you're citing the fact that you had sex when you didn't want it. All in all, you were too much hard work and did not give enough. Honestly, a person who won't cook for their partner until marriage is not worth the effort. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 8 hours ago, Orochilove said: But I always wanted to meet a provider man, like traditional. I want to be a house wife. In other words, you don't want to work. On 6/1/2024 at 6:11 AM, Orochilove said: That’s not what I mean but I was a better girl than her but he treated her better. Then you weren't the better girl 15 hours ago, Orochilove said: what he wanted from me was some home cooked meals and coffee when he wanted and we often fought about it because I said I only do that for my husband Selfish much? Do you even know how to cook? 15 hours ago, Orochilove said: I’m 29, and I’m not playing mind games. I’m just being me Almost 30 and you're this immature. Who else would you be. 9 hours ago, Orochilove said: I also gave him access to my body which sometimes I wasn’t in the mood but I did it for him anyway. He also gave you access to his body. Fair exchange is not robbery. I'm sure sex wasn't very good for either of you if you weren't in the mood, so you weren't doing him any favors. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 8 hours ago, Gebidozo said: Housewives don’t get jealous of their husbands’ dogs, whine about taking selfies, break up with their husbands and then deliberately ghost them. They are doing very hard housework and raise children. You weren’t at all like a housewife for your boyfriend. I would have been if he had married me. I didn’t live with him so what can I do? I did take care of him when he was sick and stuff. I wanted more from him, but he kept saying he would do more if we can just have peace and some stability. He kept trying to get me to be a certain way which I felt controlling. Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 8 minutes ago, Orochilove said: I would have been if he had married me. I didn’t live with him so what can I do? I did take care of him when he was sick and stuff. I wanted more from him, but he kept saying he would do more if we can just have peace and some stability. He kept trying to get me to be a certain way which I felt controlling. My very first post in this thread says “What a mess”. Five pages later, I stand by my opinion. Both you and your ex are very immature people who had an unhealthy, co-dependent relationship. Again, all I can suggest to you is to grow up. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 8 hours ago, Gebidozo said: That’s what every normal girlfriend and every normal boyfriend do. It’s a basic relationship requirement. Your choice of words makes me cringe. Supposing that you mean “I agreed to have sex with him even when I wasn’t in the mood”, again, this is not something to be proud of. Normal partners make compromises for each other and learn to respect each other’s wishes in that area as well. These days it’s quite rare. He was cheated badly in his last marriage and robbed of almost 300k usd. He did therapy while I met him because he said that he was unable to trust his own judgement. i didn’t do this to him and he didn’t do much for me except take me out on dates and help with bills Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 5 hours ago, stillafool said: In other words, you don't want to work. Then you weren't the better girl Selfish much? Do you even know how to cook? Almost 30 and you're this immature. Who else would you be. He also gave you access to his body. Fair exchange is not robbery. I'm sure sex wasn't very good for either of you if you weren't in the mood, so you weren't doing him any favors. Yes I don’t want to work. I battle with depression and I had to stop nursing school midway. I know I can meet a provider man that I love. I know I’ll be a great wife I’m clean and I can cook pretty well and I’m loyal, I know my worth too. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Orochilove Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 5 hours ago, basil67 said: Ghosting on a guy three times is not loyal. And I'm not sure why you're citing the fact that you had sex when you didn't want it. All in all, you were too much hard work and did not give enough. Honestly, a person who won't cook for their partner until marriage is not worth the effort. We all do no? We all do things sometimes we don’t want to do for the person we love. Link to post Share on other sites
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