Admiral Thrawn Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I'm surprised that I have not found a thread in this section dealing with this subject. Well, I guess I'll open one for discussion. Looking for a quick-fix solution concept - well, this is one of them. You buy a bottle of this stuff, stray it on, and it is supposed to attract people you want like bees to honey. More eye contact, more smiles, more approaches, etc... sounds too good to be true, or maybe we are all idiots in here for not buying into this, who knows? Has anyone really tried a product like this? Does it really work, or do you think it is 'hocus-pocus'? Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 ... Well, we've gone from being pious to learning foreign languages to pick up women and now we're gonna try pheromone sprays too. What will we think of next? Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 It's pheromones. Maybe the stuff works long enough to attract a woman and knock her up, so that she will be forced to stay with the little stinker. Link to post Share on other sites
clandestinidad Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 hahaha....Ive never tried it I think it would be hard to determine if the results are based on the pheromones, or the wearer's new-found confidence and attitude..... it may just be placebo effect(s)....I dont know give it a try and tell us Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 sounds like a money-making scam. After all, look at all the perfumes and colognes and scented body washes, deodorants, aftershaves and such – theoretically, they function as pheromones because they are designed to make the wearer appealing through use of sense of smell. However, in reality, only certain people are attracted to certain smells; factor in personal taste and allergic responses (I claim this category!), and the p-factor lessens. I can think of two guys I've ever known to "smell" good, and I'm married to one of them. DH doesn't wear cologne or aftershave often, doesn't care for lotion though he'll use the shea butter-based Bath & Body Works hand soap because it helps with dry skin. Yet there's something about the way he smells ... we just chalk it up to pheromones and a highly sensitized reaction to them. Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 hahaha....Ive never tried it I think it would be hard to determine if the results are based on the pheromones, or the wearer's new-found confidence and attitude..... it may just be placebo effect(s)....I dont know give it a try and tell us Never tried it either kat!!! Yeah tell us if it works!! Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 They don't overcome personality. If you're a wierdo wearing some pheromone concoction, someone might come close enough for you to speak to her, but the wierdo part would chase her back away again anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 They don't overcome personality. If you're a wierdo wearing some pheromone concoction, someone might come close enough for you to speak to her, but the wierdo part would chase her back away again anyway. She might overlook the weirdo aspect, because she feels sexually attracted to him? Link to post Share on other sites
lindya Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I think someone should be a guinea pig to establish the effectiveness of pheromone based perfumes/aftershaves. I'll just quickly google "perfume pheromones sex appeal" Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I vote for the good old French way of Josephine and recommend to the ladies not to wash for a week or so. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 She might overlook the weirdo aspect, because she feels sexually attracted to him? Nope. They're not that strong. It's not a magic love potion. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucasarts Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 hummm wear axe, tag, or any of those deodorants, you saw what they do to girls in those commercials. oh and dont wear too much or else people will think you have a serious odor problem. *note that you also need good people skills and some confidence Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 wear axe, tag, or any of those deodorants, you saw what they do to girls in those commercials. This may shock you, but they hire ACTORS to do commercials. Actors are paid to pretend stuff, like that Axe would make them go nuts over a guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucasarts Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 rofl i know that but they do target guys like AT to buy that shiz (as well as teens like me and younger) who are desperate for girls to like them. *hence why i added the "you need good people skills and some confidence note Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted January 5, 2006 Author Share Posted January 5, 2006 It's good to see a discussion on this really reeved up, but nobody's actually tried this stuff? My position right now is to put this on the back-burner. In the mean-time I'm trying the John Alanis, 'effortless communication' with money back guarantee if it does not work I've already tried another one, but didn't really fully connect with the program or concepts, as they were a bit on the crude/vulgar side, to say the least. The only benefit, if any, for using that program was the personal make-over which gave some insights on improving my appearance. I would not recommend this program - unless you are into the night-scene (which I'm not). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sparticuss Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm surprised that I have not found a thread in this section dealing with this subject. Well, I guess I'll open one for discussion. Looking for a quick-fix solution concept - well, this is one of them. You buy a bottle of this stuff, stray it on, and it is supposed to attract people you want like bees to honey. More eye contact, more smiles, more approaches, etc... sounds too good to be true, or maybe we are all idiots in here for not buying into this, who knows? Has anyone really tried a product like this? Does it really work, or do you think it is 'hocus-pocus'? Yea! I tried a bottle on a 30 day free trial, just for a laugh. And sent back the empty bottle after only 20 days with a little note. "Totally %^&* useless. Yea well I knew that anyway. The only schentific test that I've heard of is where one chair , in an empty doctors waiting room was sprayed with the stuff and the women tended to pick that chair to sit on. But they displayed no more randiness in their general behaviour. I think it would be more reliable to just get the girl drunk. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 It's good to see a discussion on this really reeved up, but nobody's actually tried this stuff? My position right now is to put this on the back-burner. In the mean-time I'm trying the John Alanis, 'effortless communication' with money back guarantee if it does not work. I've already tried another one, but didn't really fully connect with the program or concepts, as they were a bit on the crude/vulgar side, to say the least. The only benefit, if any, for using that program was the personal make-over which gave some insights on improving my appearance. I would not recommend this program - unless you are into the night-scene (which I'm not). I'm starting to feel really bad for us women. We are not preys and if you guys would stop seeing us as objects, you might get a girlfriend without all this manipulation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Yea! I tried a bottle on a 30 day free trial, just for a laugh. And sent back the empty bottle after only 20 days with a little note. "Totally %^&* useless. Yea well I knew that anyway. The only schentific test that I've heard of is where one chair , in an empty doctors waiting room was sprayed with the stuff and the women tended to pick that chair to sit on. But they displayed no more randiness in their general behaviour. I think it would be more reliable to just get the girl drunk. Roflmao!! That reminds me of that movie The 40 yr old virgin ,the guys was trying to get him laid and told him to go for the drunk ones they more vunerable.... Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm starting to feel really bad for us women. We are not preys and if you guys would stop seeing us as objects, you might get a girlfriend without all this manipulation. couldn't agree more loony.. great post!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Yea! I tried a bottle on a 30 day free trial, just for a laugh. And sent back the empty bottle after only 20 days with a little note. "Totally %^&* useless. Yea well I knew that anyway. The only schentific test that I've heard of is where one chair , in an empty doctors waiting room was sprayed with the stuff and the women tended to pick that chair to sit on. But they displayed no more randiness in their general behaviour. I think it would be more reliable to just get the girl drunk. And...they refunded your money without any hassle? Link to post Share on other sites
Neptune Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I suspect if there is any credibility to pheromones affecting a woman`s libido a man has to be 90% there with her before that factor would be of any significance. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucasarts Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 And...they refunded your money without any hassle? it was a 30 day free trial...you dont pay anything for 30 days and he sent it back after 20... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm starting to feel really bad for us women. We are not preys and if you guys would stop seeing us as objects, you might get a girlfriend without all this manipulation. In a sence these type of products sort of pander to lust. They feed on the idea of being a 'playboy', or being full of attractive girls around you, wanting you, as opposed to genuinely connecting with the right person. However, the products themselves do not show women as objects, although, it may appeal to lower motivations of someone to buy them. It is still not adult entertainment, but a self-investment. Porn objectifies women. This is not porn. The 'Seduce and Conquer' product, for example will teach guys how to present themselves as attractive and confident, encourage exercise and body-building, and stress that guys should get out there and talk to people in different social settings. The girls will usually come in naturally, or you feel comfortable to start really talking to girls, but you are still approaching them as people first. The rationale of the program, is what makes an attractive hot girl different from people in general? They would be people with an attitude problem. Since they get hit on all the time buy guys, and are fed up with compliments, then you are going to be a guy that is different. If she gives you attitude, you will give her more attitude. Instead of showering her with compliments, you are going to make a sarcastic mockery of whatever is making her hot, and act disinterested. When you approach a hot girl, and say "Hi" to them, or try and start a civilised conversation with them, they will diss you. So, you have a bit of a game, if she gives you attitude, and you will be different form other guys by picking on her, rather than showering her with compliments. This is the general philosophy of the program. Although, I dont tend to talk much with people, and my tone is still the same. That's why I just want to try another product out there that I may feel more comfortable with. Besides, those CD's from Payton Kane, had allot of foul language on it and autio soft-core porn sounds in the beginning of each of its chapters, and it is not really something that I would recommend. Link to post Share on other sites
loony Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 If your main goal is to attract the hot and good-looking girls than you are objectifying women, because you reduce the essence of their existence to their looks. I also don't understand why you are so desperate to meet women in bars where there a bunch of guys are competing for her. There are simply better places to meet a long-term partner if that is what you are looking for. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Admiral Thrawn Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 If your main goal is to attract the hot and good-looking girls than you are objectifying women, because you reduce the essence of their existence to their looks. I also don't understand why you are so desperate to meet women in bars where there a bunch of guys are competing for her. There are simply better places to meet a long-term partner if that is what you are looking for. Like I said, these programs appear to pander to lower motivations in order to sell their product (i.e. if sex sells, then so will this product), but I'm confident that the John Alanis system is more rational than the other one I tried. However, I do concede, that what sells these programs is it is filling a lust that is virtually every guy's fantasy - and of course lust will not reason to see 'one-long-term unattractive partner'. For example, to want to have every girl (especially attractive ones) to be establishing eye -contact, smiling, initiating conversations, just like how it is the gender inverse of attractive girls with guys going all over them. I do not go to bars, and in fact, have not actually been to one in my life. I do not drink alcohol. One of the reasons I bought into another system, is this new John Alanis system does not encourage going to a bar, club, nightclub, stripclub, in order to get someone to get a quick lay with - but is more interested in getting women simply interested in you in 'normal' day to day venues, for whatever purpose you want - whether it is friendship, long-term partner, or girlfriend, whatever....doesn't matter. It also tells you how to get women to give things to you, like money. Well, that really caught my attention, why would women want to throw money at me and give me gifts and all that? I better get a refund if is all BS. In fact, I unless I get money from women, that exceeds the cost of this program, I'm asking for a refund! Link to post Share on other sites
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