fred123 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Wouldn't a girl linger for a bit in the car after a romantic dinner 2nd date if she wanted to be kissed? Rather than a quick hug and a quick pick on the lips and bolt out the car? How does a guy try to kiss a girl or make a move when he can't because she makes it hard for him? Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fred123 said: How does a guy try to kiss a girl or make a move when he can't because she makes it hard for him? A guy walks a lady to her door steps if he wants a chance at a kiss. Edited January 8 by Gaeta 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author fred123 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, Gaeta said: A guy walks a lady to her door steps if he wants a chance at a kiss. Iv kissed many women in the car. They have lingered. Also I did on the first date got out of my car to walk her to the door and she said "what are you doing?" I said "I'm walking to your door" she gave this dirty laugh and said "you don't need to do that" Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Fred: You are what? 40 years old? Stop expecting kissing in the car. A man, an adult man, walks his date to her door. Once he is there he can ask for a kiss good night. That's a kiss on her lips, not a make out session. Are you looking to win the heart of a good woman or you're just looking for a car make out sessions? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ShyViolet Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, fred123 said: Iv kissed many women in the car. They have lingered. Also I did on the first date got out of my car to walk her to the door and she said "what are you doing?" I said "I'm walking to your door" she gave this dirty laugh and said "you don't need to do that" Learn to read the other person's cues. If she is saying this, then she doesn't want you to walk her to the door. Respond accordingly. If she is bolting from the car quickly, then obviously she doesn't want you to kiss her in the car either. Maybe this woman doesn't want you to kiss her, did you ever consider that? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author fred123 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 26 minutes ago, Gaeta said: Fred: You are what? 40 years old? Stop expecting kissing in the car. A man, an adult man, walks his date to her door. Once he is there he can ask for a kiss good night. That's a kiss on her lips, not a make out session. Are you looking to win the heart of a good woman or you're just looking for a car make out sessions? No I wanted a passionate kiss that's all Link to post Share on other sites
Author fred123 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 23 minutes ago, ShyViolet said: Learn to read the other person's cues. If she is saying this, then she doesn't want you to walk her to the door. Respond accordingly. If she is bolting from the car quickly, then obviously she doesn't want you to kiss her in the car either. Maybe this woman doesn't want you to kiss her, did you ever consider that? Gaeta is saying I should have gone to walk her at the door? Confused opinions here. Also want to add that the next day we spoke on the phone and I told her that I wanted to kiss her passionately in the car. She said " you should have made a move then" can you explain this?? Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, fred123 said: Also want to add that the next day we spoke on the phone and I told her that I wanted to kiss her passionately in the car. She said " you should have made a move then" can you explain this?? Then there is no problem, just kiss her passionately on your next date. There is no used to breaking this down step by step. You did not read her, she did not read you, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites
Author fred123 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, Gaeta said: Then there is no problem, just kiss her passionately on your next date. There is no used to breaking this down step by step. You did not read her, she did not read you, that's all. Can you explain this in more detail? I'm trying to learn. So she wasn't into me? Why did she mention that the next day about me making a move? Yet was showing no interest on the date and didn't give me a chance to kiss her? Women normally linger in the car from my experience don't they. 6 months a go I went on a first date with a girl. Dropped her home. She lingered in th3 car for an hour and leaned over to touch my hand. It gave me the go ahead to kiss and make out with her. Link to post Share on other sites
BaileyB Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, fred123 said: How does a guy try to kiss a girl or make a move when he can't because she makes it hard for him? My first thought, you need to take the hint - She does not feel comfortable kissing you at this time. Thus, the quick peck on the cheek and the hasty departure. 26 minutes ago, fred123 said: Also want to add that the next day we spoke on the phone and I told her that I wanted to kiss her passionately in the car. She said " you should have made a move then" can you explain this?? Maybe she didn’t feel that you were interested in a kiss at the end of the date. That tends to be an awkward moment at the best of times… if she is feeling awkward and unsure, she is likely to say a quick thank you, give you a hug or a quick kiss, and make a hasty departure. 58 minutes ago, fred123 said: I said "I'm walking to your door" she gave this dirty laugh and said "you don't need to do that" What is a “dirty” laugh? Edited January 8 by BaileyB Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, fred123 said: Can you explain this in more detail? I'm trying to learn. So she wasn't into me? Why did she mention that the next day about me making a move? Yet was showing no interest on the date and didn't give me a chance to kiss her? Why do you say she was not showing interest on the date? Link to post Share on other sites
Author fred123 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 20 minutes ago, BaileyB said: My first thought, you need to take the hint - She does not feel comfortable kissing you at this time. Thus, the quick peck on the cheek and the hasty departure. Maybe she didn’t feel that you were interested in a kiss at the end of the date. That tends to be an awkward moment at the best of times… if she is feeling awkward and unsure, she is likely to say a quick thank you, give you a hug or a quick kiss, and make a hasty departure. What is a “dirty” laugh? She gave me a quick peck on my lips not the cheek. I meant like a funny laugh Link to post Share on other sites
Author fred123 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 So first date I finally got a kiss after an early rejection. She was like "try again in an hour" so we finally made out in the first date. But when I dropped her home she just left the car no hug or kiss. The 2nd date she said to me before our date " she thinks dinner is more seductive and that she wants to be seduced be my" so I took her to a fancy restaurant and after that had booked a nice hotel bar for drinks. As we were walking to the car I tried to hold her hand and failed to do so. In the car whilst I was driving her home I tried to make another attempt to hold her hand or touch her thigh etc but again failed (I think) Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, fred123 said: The 2nd date she said to me before our date " she thinks dinner is more seductive and that she wants to be seduced be my" so I took her to a fancy restaurant and after that had booked a nice hotel bar for drinks. Oh Fred, you've got more money than sense How many times do we have to tell you not to spend a lot of money on a woman before she's your girlfriend. In this case, she was either a. not interested in you but trying to scam a fancy meal out of you because she could or b. she is more attracted to men who spend a lot of money on her. But that means she's attracted to the spending and not the man If I were you, I would have ended it the moment she told me that dinner is more seductive. If she didn't want me for who I am (as opposed to what I can buy), I wouldn't spend a moment more on her Edited January 8 by basil67 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 8 hours ago, fred123 said: Wouldn't a girl linger for a bit in the car after a romantic dinner 2nd date if she wanted to be kissed? Rather than a quick hug and a quick pick on the lips and bolt out the car? Probably yes, but why are you worried about that? If it didn’t work in the car, walk her to her house and see if the kiss is in the air. If not, maybe she isn’t ready yet, go on another date. If it’s still not happening, maybe she just isn’t attracted to you, let it go then. 8 hours ago, fred123 said: How does a guy try to kiss a girl or make a move when he can't because she makes it hard for him? My goodness, what a strange question. If a woman “makes it hard” for me to kiss her, I don’t attempt to kiss her and start dating someone else who doesn’t “make it hard”. What does this even mean? What’s “making hard”, exactly? Like, sending no signals at all, avoiding kisses, quickly taking off? That’s not “making it hard”, that’s just telling you that she doesn’t want to be kissed by you. Why would you want to kiss her after that? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
basil67 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 hours ago, fred123 said: How does a guy try to kiss a girl or make a move when he can't because she makes it hard for him? If he has any concept of consent, he does not try to kiss her. A kiss should only happen if both parties are enthusiastic 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gebidozo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, basil67 said: If he has any concept of consent, he does not try to kiss her. A kiss should only happen if both parties are enthusiastic It is possible that the OP feels entitled to “get” kisses from women by way of a “payment” of sorts for drinks or dinner that he buys them. This is not the first time that I detect hints of such materialistic, mercantile attitude in the OP’s topics. It is as though he expects romantic connections to follow a certain prescribed quid pro quo formula. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 19 hours ago, fred123 said: The 2nd date she said to me before our date " she thinks dinner is more seductive and that she wants to be seduced be my" so I took her to a fancy restaurant and after that had booked a nice hotel bar for drinks. Here we go again. After she said that you should have said: I am sorry I don't feel we're a match, good luck in your search. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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