lilmoma1973 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 To each their own but I just don't see it as a big deal. I even think that every now and then married couple should let their spouse go out and get laid by another person as long as they don't bring them home. It coule be like a card they cash in. It would save a lot of marriages. I do not agree with this !!! If that is the case Woggle why even bother getting married and saying vows then ...Why not be single and do that ? Vows say forsaking all others not sleeping with someone every once in awhile to save the marriage!!! Don't buy that at all!! So Woggle if you married the now gf and she done this it would be ok with you? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 I do not agree with this !!! If that is the case Woggle why even bother getting married and saying vows then ...Why not be single and do that ? Vows say forsaking all others not sleeping with someone every once in awhile to save the marriage!!! Don't buy that at all!! Marriage is about love and you share that love with one person but I don't see what the big deal about going out and getting laid once in a while. If this became standard practice it woulc cut the divorce rate in half. If my ex wife had told me she wanted to go out and do another guy I would not have had much of a problem with it because she would be honest. What upset me so much was her lying. If we were just honest with each other and ourselves that while we want lifelong love but sleeping with one person for life is constraining then there would be more happy marriages. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 So Woggle if you married the now gf and she done this it would be ok with you? If she told me about it first. I have not discussed this with her so she might have a different view and if so I would stick with only her. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Marriage is about love and you share that love with one person but I don't see what the big deal about going out and getting laid once in a while. If this became standard practice it woulc cut the divorce rate in half. If my ex wife had told me she wanted to go out and do another guy I would not have had much of a problem with it because she would be honest. What upset me so much was her lying. If we were just honest with each other and ourselves that while we want lifelong love but sleeping with one person for life is constraining then there would be more happy marriages. So are you advocating *open marriages*? If so, what about diseases? No guarantee that the *other dude* will use protection, right? What if your wife gets pregnant? And so forth... Oh boy... Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 To each their own but I just don't see it as a big deal. I even think that every now and then married couple should let their spouse go out and get laid by another person as long as they don't bring them home. It coule be like a card they cash in. It would save a lot of marriages. Unf***ingbelievable... from where do you come up with this? Seriously. Hey, you're right: to each their own. Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Marriage is about love and you share that love with one person but I don't see what the big deal about going out and getting laid once in a while. If this became standard practice it woulc cut the divorce rate in half. If my ex wife had told me she wanted to go out and do another guy I would not have had much of a problem with it because she would be honest. What upset me so much was her lying. If we were just honest with each other and ourselves that while we want lifelong love but sleeping with one person for life is constraining then there would be more happy marriages.[/QUOte } What is wrong with marriages isn't that you are sleeping with the same person .. It is that in a marriage we start taking each other for granted and we get comfortable and feel what we doing is enough and it isn't and the emotional connection is lacking and we turn to someone and that is where affairs happen.. Not being with the same partner !! You get married to be a partnership and enjoy each others company !! Physical connection is nice but if you don't have the emotional connection as well women want and need that and men want physical .. Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 So are you advocating *open marriages*? If so, what about diseases? No guarantee that the *other dude* will use protection, right? What if your wife gets pregnant? And so forth... Oh boy... Exactly Smoothie !! Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 That's different but some strippers do have happy relationships and some are even happily married. Jenna Jameson is married and she does porn. A better analogy is a secure man will make piece with his woman's vibrator. My gf has devices and I don't know what the hell they are for. I am not sure I want to know but I am fine with that so she should be fine with a few playboys and me going to stripclub every once in a blue moon. no sorry that is no comparison. apples and oranges. if you are fine with her vibrator then she should be fine with your sexual toy. they do make these plastic pussies you could try for when she is out of town. that would be the comparison. but if you want her to be fine with you going to a stripclub then you have to be fine with her stripping off in front of another man and shaking her tits at him. and if you want her to be fine with your porn then you have to let her have her porn where she lusts after other men's bodies and gets turned on by them. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 If you wanna *beep* around then don't get married. Stay single and *beep* all the hotties in town until your yang drops off. Simple as that. But don't come back here whining about how all women are shyt and out to *use and abuse* men... especially when YOU are the one who's doing that to women. You know (or perhaps not), there ARE other ways of *being a man* that don't involved naked groping and grappling with tons of women. *sigh* I give up trying to *relate* to people. Seriously. The selfishness of people these days is just absolutely appalling. Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 no sorry that is no comparison. apples and oranges. if you are fine with her vibrator then she should be fine with your sexual toy. they do make these plastic pussies you could try for when she is out of town. that would be the comparison. but if you want her to be fine with you going to a stripclub then you have to be fine with her stripping off in front of another man and shaking her tits at him. My theory "what is good for the goose is good for the gander"!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 Now that I think about it maybe taht open marriage was not such a good idea. Every say something and realize that was a real dumb thing to say. I don't know. Is she read playgirl or went to a male revue it would not bother me at all. I just don't see the big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 then why the heck are you posting about it? go see your titties and tell her to go look at some other guys' d*cks. if you're both happy with ogling others, then do it for god's sake. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 then why the heck are you posting about it? go see your titties and tell her to go look at some other guys' d*cks. if you're both happy with ogling others, then do it for god's sake. Why so angry? Calm down Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 hey no anger here. but your first post asked a question. then when you're given the answer, you say you still don't get it and come up with apples and oranges. so i think you just want some other dudes and maybe girls to tell you how its ok because your gf caught you out and is quite bothered by what you're doing. if you are just looking for justification, start a thread called."help, i need arguments so i can justify my porn habit' if you care about your gf's feelings (assuming this bothers her because if it doesn't i can't imagine why you are even bringing it up) then try to understand. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 they do make these plastic pussies you could try for when she is out of town. ... ...his wife walking in on him while he's *beep* the artificial pussy... That would be one hell of a... nah, nah, NAH! I have to purge that image out of my head! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 hey no anger here. but your first post asked a question. then when you're given the answer, you say you still don't get it. so i think you just want some other dudes and maybe girls to tell you how its ok because your gf caught you out and is quite bothered by what you're doing. if you are just looking for justification, start a thread called."help, i need arguments so i can justify my porn habit' My gf is fine with it. I just made this thread because I see al these anti-porn threads and I don't get why it is so bad. Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Now that I think about it maybe taht open marriage was not such a good idea. Every say something and realize that was a real dumb thing to say. I don't know. Is she read playgirl or went to a male revue it would not bother me at all. I just don't see the big deal. So Woggle are you saying Open maRRIAGE isn't ok or is it? Why are you contradicting that statement because that is what you are insenuating in a marriage by sleeping with others every once in awhile.. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 So Woggle are you saying Open maRRIAGE isn't ok or is it? Why are you contradicting that statement because that is what you are insenuating in a marriage by sleeping with others every once in awhile.. It was a dumb idea I thought of at the moment. To each their own though. I am not one to judge. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 My gf is fine with it. I just made this thread because I see al these anti-porn threads and I don't get why it is so bad. you STILL don't get it? well then, i give up, you never will because you really don't want to understand. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 you STILL don't get it? well then, i give up, you never will because you really don't want to understand. If I am fine with it and my gf is fine with it how is it wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
lilmoma1973 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 It was a dumb idea I thought of at the moment. To each their own though. I am not one to judge. To each their own but I just don't see it as a big deal. I even think that every now and then married couple should let their spouse go out and get laid by another person as long as they don't bring them home. It coule be like a card they cash in. It would save a lot of marriages. I'm not judging either but was just stating what you said in this second quote!! contradicting what you said basically that is what you was asking in this statement..How it saves marriages ? I have to agree with cgny why are you posting this type of thing if you haven't brought this up to your g/f ..Usually when people post stuff like this they have !! Just MO!! Link to post Share on other sites
EnigmaXOXO Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Marriage is about love and you share that love with one person but I don't see what the big deal about going out and getting laid once in a while. If this became standard practice it woulc cut the divorce rate in half. If my ex wife had told me she wanted to go out and do another guy I would not have had much of a problem with it because she would be honest. What upset me so much was her lying. If we were just honest with each other and ourselves that while we want lifelong love but sleeping with one person for life is constraining then there would be more happy marriages. I agree with you on this point, Woggle. It's dishonesty, deception and betrayal that undermines relationships. The point being, that everyone one of us is entitled to choose for ourselves what we do and how we wish to live our lives … SO LONG AS we respect everyone else's right to do the same. When we lye by omission and/or make empty promises to someone as a means of 'tricking' them into remaining in a relationship with us, then we are selfishness denying that person the right to make an informed choice of their own. Those are the tactics of someone not secure enough in their own worthiness to be loved and accepted by another person for who they really are. I think if you are among those who can separate sexual intimacy from emotional intimacy, then it's important to pursue a relationship ONLY with someone who shares that philosophy with you. Don't try to force another person to conform to your lifestyle simply because you want it both ways. And if you enjoy a little sexual diversion for yourself every now and again, then it would be unfair to deny your committed partner the same opportunity. Too many people who claim to be okay with "open relationships" are actually looking for one-way monogamy. They want to play, but can't stomach the thought of their partner doing the same. If this became standard practice it woulc cut the divorce rate in half. Hardly. Open relationships aren't the cure-all for personal insecurities or the remedy for an already failing marriage. They have a whole set of issues of their own. I've seen it happen with three couples I know. While they weren't squeamish about the fact that their partner was having sex outside of the primary relationship, the worry still remained that their partner would develop a deeper emotional bond with the other person they were sexually involved with. As a matter of fact, it was the "emotional attachments" that developed as a result that eventually ended all three of these marriages. So you see; it's the same boundaries, same rules, same betrayal, same ol' insecurities … just the flip side of that relationship coin. The only way around it, is to NOT "love" someone enough to really care one way or the other. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 If I am fine with it and my gf is fine with it how is it wrong? if you are both fine with it, as i said, go for it. i never said it was "wrong"--you asked why it was so "bad"-- it is bad when it hurts someone else. do you expect every woman in the world to be fine with it? should i expect every man in the world to be fine with his woman shaking her naked tits at some other man as long as there is no physical contact and no emotional relationship but she's just doing it because she has a need to feel other men's arousal towards her? same exact thing. your first post sounds like you are just trying to make an argument to all women that they should all accept this behavior in men as normal. sorry that will never happen. women know how weak men are. if they weren't just a little insecure about their guy's porn habit, i'd say they were naive. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 women know how weak men are. Hold up, what do you mean by this? *Weak* in what way? Please elaborate. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
littlekitty Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 My brother has to view porn too for his job also Little .. He works for Adam and Eve and is the head honcho of the mail room !! He likes porn and so does his wife.... My h says the same as Smoothie my h says why does he feel the need to look at porn he has me to fufill his fantasies with .. As for stripclubs he has been to them when he was teenager and he thinks the women in there are trashy and have no respect for himself!! He says he rather look at me then them.. Yeah I'm comfortable and secure that my man only really has eyes for me!! The other stuff is just eye candy.... I'm the real deal!! Link to post Share on other sites
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