Lint21 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Does a girl have to be model thin to be attractive? Can they carry a bit extra and still be as attractive? I must confess that I hate myself...is this the right forum...?...and I fear that my bf would rather be with someone else who is cuter...and in shape...after all, he is a personal trainer. I do work out, but I don't seem to loose weight even being a healthy eater for the most part. It is so distressing to me. I feel like a fat slob, and I feel like he would rather be with someone who was thin...I feel that is what guys think are attractive. Sigh....can I still be attractive? I can't speak for other guys, but personally, I absolutely am more attracted to girls who are not rail-thin. So, if I see two girls at a bar, one a size 6 and one a size 12, I will be more attracted initially to the 12. However, it really has a lot more to do with the person; the size 12 could be a really ugly person inside, and the size 6 has a great personality, so the size 6 becomes more attractive. Wierd how that works, huh? Anyway, maybe you should talk to your boyfriend about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Morboro Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Women can be attractive in all shapes and sizes, I hate when women complain about men wanting stick figure girls, that is so so not true. I've always liked a bit of meat on a women, cuddly is cute. But someone who is way to large can be off putting. Link to post Share on other sites
JayKay Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Overall, HEALTH is what makes people shine and look beautiful. Some people are just naturally destined to be thinner than other people. If you are 5'5" and weigh 115 pounds, but that's what your body is genetically programmed to look like you will probably look good if you generally care for yourself. Healthy people have fresh-looking skin, healthy hair and an energy about them. If you are 5'5" and you had to starve yourself to reach 115 pounds, you will not look good. Your hair will get thin and dry and you will have circles under your eyes. You will probably be exhausted all the time with iron-deficiency anemia. I had a friend who used to model and they always wanted her to be painfully thin. She used to have lovely, curly dark hair but when she was a size 4 (at a height of 5'10") it became dry and limp. Her skin was also deathly pale. They would load her up with makeup and hair extensions so her photographs always looked gorgeous. Some people are healthier at heavier weights. I've seen 'bigger' woman who look absolutey stunning because they radiate energy and confidence. Some people's bodies are not meant to carry extra weight, however. These people also tend to have dark circles under their eyes, they have trouble breathing and have lots of aches and pains. So base your 'ideal weight' on how you FEEL. Not just on what the media and insurance companies perpetuate as 'right' for all of society. Link to post Share on other sites
JayKay Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 P.S. Also, your annual bloodwork (done at MD's) gives you lots of info on how healthy you are. If your blood pressure is normal your liver enzymes are normal your kidney function is normal your heart is healthy your blood sugar levels are normal and you have good cholesterol and triglycerides and you FEEL good The only reason to lose weight is for aesthetic purposes Link to post Share on other sites
very-confused-girl Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I am very slim girl, because of my fast metabolism, I have troubles putting weight on, but I am always extremely upset when somebody is making negative comments about my weight, because they think I am on drugs or something like that. In last two years I have been working as a model, because I found this to be quite a good job for a university student. Because modeling industry is very wide and consits of lots of different types of modeling, I met people who work in glamour modeling industry. Now, the funny thing is, that in fashion industry, girls have to be long and thin, because of some strange photographing reasons - somehow the clothing promoted on superskiny girls looks better. But girls that work in glamour industry promote their own bodies. Therefore we can say, that GLAMOUR models in magazines usually represent the ideal women. Couple of years ago, the trend was, that the magazines were full of meaty models with C-cups and lots of curves. Nowadays, Teen magazines have become very popular. I have been talking to a photographer, who took a gorgeous model to exotic location to photograph her. This girl had very curvatious body, C-cups and beautiful curves, but when he tried to sell those shoots, we was not very successfull. The editors of magazines told him, that they want to be buying shoots of girls that have tight slim bodies. And the fact is, that the editor is running stuff that he knows is saleable because this is what guys want to see. So somehow the concept of teen, slim girls, have become very popular to the point that even Playboy magazine is trying to match that trend and there are no longer curvatious girls anymore. So all I want to say, is, (being a bit sad about the insensitive comments about thin people), that basically most guys (at least those ones, who are buying dirty mags )nowadays prefer thin, vulnerable looking girls with small breasts than the Pamela Anderson type of girls. Just an insight for those ones, who want to be degrading thin girls. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 This whole thread is a ridiculous example of how, when pressed regarding their insecurities, women will attack other women. Sigh. I'll crawl into my hidey hole now. This is why the only female friends I have are lesbians or related to me. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 This whole thread is a ridiculous example of how, when pressed regarding their insecurities, women will attack other women. women are their own worst enemy. when i'm out and about on the town with some hot beeyotch its the women who check her out and judge her more than the men. men are cool. i would never want to be a woman, yuck! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Starling2003 Posted January 28, 2006 Author Share Posted January 28, 2006 Would it be stupid for a girl (or guy I guess) to tell her man that she won't marry him (once he asks her) until she is at her desired weight? Link to post Share on other sites
Lala7819 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 That may make him think that you are just saying that to (gently) say no. What you should do (If you really want to marry him) is say yes when he proposes, then, when you do set the date, make sure it gives you plenty of time to be at your desired size/weight. That's what most people do anyway when they feel that way. Link to post Share on other sites
Pendawn Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Do NOT put anything in your life on hold waiting for your so-called desired weight. Your weight will NOT magically transform your life and you willt hrow away many many happy times waiting for your weight to be perfect. If someone wants to marry you they love you for who you are THAT VERY MINUTE, and if you love them back you should jump at the chance. Link to post Share on other sites
loveheart59 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I think all this is a load of s**t. Women who are chubby always ask theese kind of question only because they know what type of response thier gonna get:rolleyes: .... How many women in the world are actually "model thin"and 6ft tall, Its a very rare shape so I dont know why people keep refering to it! And who really came out with the assumption that men like "model thin" women, probably women themselves. If you asked men if they prefered slim- avererage women then that would be a valid question and the answer would be yes (sorry). I think most people dont like extermes so asking if they like very thin women/ men, or very big women/men you will get the attention you desire to inflate your ego. This whole thing about "real women" was really revived by Jennifer Lopez and Beyonce. Id now like you to go up to either one of them and ask them how much time they spend excercising a day, I think you would be surprised. Then you should ask them what their bodyfat ratio is. Anyone who has a personal trainer, special diet, and a home gym used regularly isnt in fact a "real woman" In the everyday context it is used. Link to post Share on other sites
grateful Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think all this is a load of s**t. Women who are chubby always ask theese kind of question only because they know what type of response thier gonna get:rolleyes: .... How many women in the world are actually "model thin"and 6ft tall, Its a very rare shape so I dont know why people keep refering to it! And who really came out with the assumption that men like "model thin" women, probably women themselves. If you asked men if they prefered slim- avererage women then that would be a valid question and the answer would be yes (sorry). I'm sorry but I'm going to have to call bull**** on your call of bull**** here. Your last sentence should read "If you asked" WHITE AMERICAN "men if they prefered slim- avererage women then that would be a valid question and the answer would be yes." You are assuming a cultural standard that only pertains to one community and not everybody within earshot of this board. Black and Latino men often prefer women who white men would consider fat (I'm not talking obese here, i mean women approximately size 10-18). "You have a big butt" is usually a compliment rather than an insult from men of color. Link to post Share on other sites
loveheart59 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 "You have a big butt" is usually a compliment rather than an insult from men of color. I do know that as I am Carribean, I noticed the woman asking the question was White so Im going by what she says. Plus I suppose Im assuming that she has a White boyf (most probably). I dont kno what Blk men you kno who likes size 18 girls, unless ur from the states and you really mean size 16.... still I dont believe it. Again I was refering to the girls age and the only blk men I know would definately go out with a size 12+ are older guys or carribean/ african (grown up there). Most of these young blk/latino/mixed race girls on the rap videos are definately no bigger than size 12, people look bigger on screen anyway. Im sure jlo and B are that size. What I was driving at is there is a difference between fat and "thick" to the younger generation now. One of the noticeble things about them is: I have a 2 friends who have the same size legs and arms and are big girls but on gets called "fat"(by blk men) and one gets called "thick". The thick one has good muscle tone, small waist and perky boobs and the "fat" one has a pot belly, saggy breasts and cellulite. So even a (young) black man would pick a medium sized gyal in good shape than a 12+ with a saggy bum. Link to post Share on other sites
LNY Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 For me, I love skinny girls. I don't know why really, all of my friends ask me "how the hell can you like that?", "she's too skinny", etc, etc. I don't know, I guess it's just personal preferance really. My last girlfriend was a model, she was size 6, and weighed about 42kg. Of course, being natural, she wasn't big chested.. but that kinda thing doesn't do it for me anyway. I prefer a tiny stomach and ass, and a hot set of legs, than big boobs! Everyone has different tastes on what's hot and what's not. Link to post Share on other sites
cal gal Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Okay - getting back to the original post - I am so happy because I have been able to gain and keep on nine pounds in the last two to three weeks! I feel much better and stronger, more like my old self. Although I might now be a size 2 at least I'm not a zero or needing to shop any longer in the little girls section to have something to wear! I am so happy to feel a bit better. I have had to eat about four times as much as I normally would every day to gain, but the stronger feeling like I used to always have makes me feel tons better, mentally and physically. Link to post Share on other sites
GuySimple Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I’ve got to weigh in on this one… Do you think thin people go around thinking that overweight people are really shallow because they try so hard to stay fat. I’m sorry but weight is all relative. I know just as many guys who like overweight curvy women as like skinny women. What happened to being comfortable with who you are (thin or overweight) and not worrying what others think? For a society that appears to be so obsessed with thinness (as many of these posts would imply) one would think that there would be a lot more skinny women and men out there. With the exception of some with medical conditions, the fact remains that people eat and take care of themselves poorly. Women or men that complain about society looking down on them because they are overweight as they wonder down the junk food section of their local store or local fast food restaurant should take a look at their lifestyle. The fact is that fat sells. Take a look at the huge amounts of crappy food that is sold each day that is full of fats and oils, way more than our bodies can handle. Next take a look at the number of diet aids on the market today. There are more than ever. Why? Because it is big business to get people fat and to convince them that they are fat and to make them feel they need to take it off artificially rather than the old fashion way of pushing our fat faces away from the plate and going for a walk. The next time that one feels the need to complain about society’s feelings towards people of weightiness take a look in your fridge and cupboards and see just how hard you are trying to get fat Link to post Share on other sites
cal gal Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I’ve got to weigh in on this one… Do you think thin people go around thinking that overweight people are really shallow because they try so hard to stay fat. I’m sorry but weight is all relative. I know just as many guys who like overweight curvy women as like skinny women. What happened to being comfortable with who you are (thin or overweight) and not worrying what others think? For a society that appears to be so obsessed with thinness (as many of these posts would imply) one would think that there would be a lot more skinny women and men out there. With the exception of some with medical conditions, the fact remains that people eat and take care of themselves poorly. Women or men that complain about society looking down on them because they are overweight as they wonder down the junk food section of their local store or local fast food restaurant should take a look at their lifestyle. The fact is that fat sells. Take a look at the huge amounts of crappy food that is sold each day that is full of fats and oils, way more than our bodies can handle. Next take a look at the number of diet aids on the market today. There are more than ever. Why? Because it is big business to get people fat and to convince them that they are fat and to make them feel they need to take it off artificially rather than the old fashion way of pushing our fat faces away from the plate and going for a walk. The next time that one feels the need to complain about society’s feelings towards people of weightiness take a look in your fridge and cupboards and see just how hard you are trying to get fat For some strange reason I get the feeling you are being condecending???? What - because I feel stronger and better for gaining nine pounds? Wow - I have tried to gain weight and NEVER go in the chip or cookie aisle of the market. I am a gourmet cook - even studied in France - but love to cook and eat, I am just a gal that needs to gain a few pounds, even though I probably eat 3X as much as you??????? Let's see homemade pasta, sushi, rare steak, osso bucco, I could go on and on if I want to continue naming things I love to make, cook and eat, : when I do I just hope I can keep the weight on, and NO I have NEVER had any eating disorders! Link to post Share on other sites
GuySimple Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 For some strange reason I get the feeling you are being condecending???? What - because I feel stronger and better for gaining nine pounds? Wow - I have tried to gain weight and NEVER go in the chip or cookie aisle of the market. I am a gourmet cook - even studied in France - but love to cook and eat, I am just a gal that needs to gain a few pounds, even though I probably eat 3X as much as you??????? Let's see homemade pasta, sushi, rare steak, osso bucco, I could go on and on if I want to continue naming things I love to make, cook and eat, : when I do I just hope I can keep the weight on, and NO I have NEVER had any eating disorders! I certainly didn’t mean to be condescending only to make the point that people complain but yet continue to abuse their bodies. Personally, as for your cooking, weighing your pockets down with gold weighs the same as rocks but is decidedly different. Gaining weight by eating good healthy well balances meals is a lot different than by eating a bag of chips or a Mac and fries. Link to post Share on other sites
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