alphamale Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Maybe the USA has become once again the Wild West. america is one f*cked up country, man. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Yes, it seems different here. I have only ever had one small experience of anything like this. a few years ago. I asked a young woman if she was next to order. That was all, so that I didn't jump the queue. A second later a young man came up into my face and said "Are you talking to her? f*** OFF!" I was utterly shocked! She apologised for him and said he was her brother. I was twice their age. I just smiled and said its ok. He came at me again and had to be educated in good manners. He may have thought that I was some dirty old perv, chatting his little sister up, but he was wrong. 'Defending' a woman from male advances, not attempted abduction BTW, is not a mans 'job'. If a woman doesn't want to talk to a guy it is easy to politely decline. Surely most guys get this. Ok there are nutcases out there, but there surely can't be that many that all women need a chaperone. Maybe the USA has become once again the Wild West. But I am still at a loss to understand. witabix i think you aren't getting it. it's not about some guy jumping up like a mad bouncer. you've blown it up into some weirdness. anyway, i'm in the middle of london right now. it's no different here. if anything, worse. midnight on a weekend on a central city street here is scary. literally, packs of drunk guys everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 anyway, i'm in the middle of london right now. it's no different here. yeah, well, people in London aren't armed to the teeth with firearms like they are in the US. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 yeah, well, people in London aren't armed to the teeth with firearms like they are in the US. maybe not but they are alot less civilised in other ways, at least where i am. the drinking is out of control. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 the drinking is out of control. many americans could drink londoners under the table. yeah, and we have all the great recreational drugs in addition to the booze. throw some loaded firearms into the drunken, drug-induced haze and you've got a real party! Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 yeah, it's not really safe for a woman either place, unless there is some back-up. i actually feel more threatened here than in the US. it's a 'harder' environment, generally. the drugs are here, and there is a rougher tone to the male behavior. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 There has never been a time in recent memory, as far as I am aware, that a woman could go out alone at night, anywhere. Man oh man. I really do live in paradise! It must be horrible to live where you folks do Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 nah, it's a trade-off. i've also met the most interesting people here. i take the good with the bad. it's more fun that way Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 It's really not an either-or. There's no lack of interesting people here just because we don't beat each other up or kill each other regularly Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 ok you win, your place is better, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
hyakku Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Woah. What? A woman going alone is a TOTALLY different thing. Here in America most women go with girlfriends, and guys go with guy friends to hang out. ANy woman who goes to a bar drunk, ALONE, then thats her idiocy. We are talking about him defending a woman in a packed club, with the woman being more dangerous than him (WTF? What is she like an 8th degree black belt?), and being stupid enough to venture off alone then call help when a guy approaches her. If she wants to dance, have fun, etc, great, but if a guy approachs her and starts talking, thats pretty damn pathetic for another guy to interrupt because he thinks she wants him too. Besides if she got so drunk that she couldn't control herself, than again thats HER idiocy. Link to post Share on other sites
witabix Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (WTF? What is she like an 8th degree black belt?) Yeah, in Origami! Cygny, I know London very well. And I know I may have suggested something different to what Jerbear was, but it still sounds odd to me. However I wouldn't sweat it too much, many things sound odd to me, I have three ears. A left ear, a right ear, a wild front ear. Just like Davy Crocket. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 However I wouldn't sweat it too much, many things sound odd to me, I have three ears. A left ear, a right ear, a wild front ear. Just like Davy Crocket. so instead of hearing things in stereo do you hear them in trireo? Link to post Share on other sites
witabix Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 so instead of hearing things in stereo do you hear them in trireo? No Alpha, I'm deaf in one eye. Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Yeah, in Origami! Cygny, I know London very well. And I know I may have suggested something different to what Jerbear was, but it still sounds odd to me. However I wouldn't sweat it too much, many things sound odd to me, I have three ears. A left ear, a right ear, a wild front ear. Just like Davy Crocket. Well, alot of things require different actions. My friend actually wanted intervention; which I did. At that time, I was a govt official which meant I don't have to be armed but my "friends" are. Just legal ramifications, so I know what I entered in. Different rules apply in different worlds. I've had my share of fights and it was not fun. Regardless of who "won", it would still be a detrimental to all parties, involved. Jerbear once in awhile does have teeth, claws, skills, strategy, weapons, uncle sam, "momma bear", and big brother behind me. If I started it, well I stand alone. I'm a little older and wiser now. I'll still intervene if a friend was being assulted or accosted with any unwanted advances. Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Yes, it seems different here. I have only ever had one small experience of anything like this. a few years ago. I asked a young woman if she was next to order. That was all, so that I didn't jump the queue. A second later a young man came up into my face and said "Are you talking to her? f*** OFF!" I was utterly shocked! She apologised for him and said he was her brother. I was twice their age. I just smiled and said its ok. He came at me again and had to be educated in good manners. He may have thought that I was some dirty old perv, chatting his little sister up, but he was wrong. 'Defending' a woman from male advances, not attempted abduction BTW, is not a mans 'job'. If a woman doesn't want to talk to a guy it is easy to politely decline. Surely most guys get this. Ok there are nutcases out there, but there surely can't be that many that all women need a chaperone. Maybe the USA has become once again the Wild West. But I am still at a loss to understand. The situation you mentioned above, I wouldn't have intervened. A hi or attempting to jump the queue is not the same as her forcbily brushing off an advance. I just watch for a signal and keep an eye out. Every situation is different, 15 football guys, well we wouldn't be there to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites
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