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haah thanks for the message. There are about 15 boys to 25 girls or smth like that, so there r lots of girls. U may think that this might make us think we r all cool with each other but the truth is, we r divided into smaller groups.

 

The cool group consists of 6 ppl, the nerdy one is the rest. I can always talk to the Nerdy ones and have no problem b/c tehy are boring ppl, but they do not interest me. I want to be socializing more with the cool ones, they have more interesting things to say or do. How can I start a conv. with the cool ppl. I'm not trying to be cool, I just doN't feel like I belong in the nerdy group.

How can I start my conv. wid da cool 1s, cause they don't really care about ppls background.

 

The person who sits next to me r girls, how unlucky to have ugly 1s too. Well,although I say I am in that nerdy group I haven't even got a number so I will probably call a nerd up using the school directory or sumth. My problem is socializing wid da cools and GRILS! I need a girl or should i make more "girl" friends b4 I go askin out my crush?

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I am totally confused. How should I spend my six day holiday excluding the fact about playing with friends and completing HW. Ahhh I am so exhausted of thinking about wat to do to prepare myself. Do you think I should give it more time to know this girl better? or do you think I should jump straight for her? How can I improve myself using this weekend?

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Learn from some guys who are good with women. If you can't find any, invest in the David DeAngelo series, Double Your Dating, Advanced Series, Mastery (especially, this isn't even about just women its about changing YOURSELF). IF you have to download it, even though you should really pay for it, but you're in Japan so I dunno about how paypal and all works using that method.

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Its a great buy but I guess you can't do anything about age. Again it works for all ages but I mean I dunno the sites rules on piracy but I'm sure you can find it around if you search for it.

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Just to inform you, i got the ebook for Double Your Dating! What else do you think is necessary. It doesn't seem that long b/c I already read half of it..

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Hey, I read Double Your Dating and I will try to do wt u told me to do. I guess it doesn't matter if she rejects me b/c i tried my best. rite? or, do u suggest reading the advanced and mastery?

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Thank you so much Hyakku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually got the number of her. I got the courage to ask my friend and he told me her number. Great, so I have a date planned on Saturday. WHat places do u think r the best? Reading Double Your Dating, tells me I should be unpredictable. How often should this happen... I mean how often should I call/mail her and where should I date her or should I try to keep it casual like D. Deangelo says?

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Thank you so much Hyakku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually got the number of her. I got the courage to ask my friend and he told me her number. Great, so I have a date planned on Saturday. WHat places do u think r the best? Reading Double Your Dating, tells me I should be unpredictable. How often should this happen... I mean how often should I call/mail her and where should I date her or should I try to keep it casual like D. Deangelo says?

 

NICE man. Not the most orthodox way but still nice, and you got a date planned? Great job.

 

You asked what else, the Mastery series to me are vital. Now that I have started them, its not about women, its about getting yourself together and becoming a better man in general. It helps.

 

To the date, don't do something really expensive, maybe tea or coffee, just talk and have fun. If there are any fun things around to do go do them, (small amusement parks, fairs (you said theres a holiday maybe there will be fairs), etc,) but don't think that money = fun. Again focus on enjoying yourself, and she will enjoy you too, just talk to her, maintain eye contact, be confident (it got you this far it won't fail you now), and have fun. Mastery though man. Advanced series is great too.

 

Edit: remember to keep referring to the book and series. Its a reference, not a one time read.

 

And man I laugh now because you went to, "I am in total confusion" to "I've got a date saturday" In like a week :). Told you you had it in you. Now kick the rest of that inner wuss out thats telling you you can't do these things. Obviously you can.

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Thank you! I just feel alot more confident from when I first posted! and I wouldn't be here without your advice! I am now confident enough to not have my heart pumpin like crazy when I talked to her, but again, I did too much of the talking...and so far everything is good but I think I am answering too much on her emails. I also feel that emailing doesn't really build chemistry. Don't u suggest I ask her number and wat r some good Qs that girls like to be asked?

 

Also, it isn't a good idea to email her everyday right? What if she mailed me first? do i answer immediately or the next day, or wat!?? and I am not sure how I should reply her e-mails, I mean when should I reply to her seriously and when should I be cocky and funny; also Double Your Dating tells u too be unpredictable, can this be done when e-mailing?

 

I have another Q for a first date, do u think I have to pay for her foods?

Thank you so much.

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Thank you! I just feel alot more confident from when I first posted! and I wouldn't be here without your advice! I am now confident enough to not have my heart pumpin like crazy when I talked to her, but again, I did too much of the talking...and so far everything is good but I think I am answering too much on her emails. I also feel that emailing doesn't really build chemistry. Don't u suggest I ask her number and wat r some good Qs that girls like to be asked?

 

Also, it isn't a good idea to email her everyday right? What if she mailed me first? do i answer immediately or the next day, or wat!?? and I am not sure how I should reply her e-mails, I mean when should I reply to her seriously and when should I be cocky and funny; also Double Your Dating tells u too be unpredictable, can this be done when e-mailing?

 

I have another Q for a first date, do u think I have to pay for her foods?

Thank you so much.

 

First off, NICE she's emailing you. I told you man, all women want you whether they know it or not, just think like this. What are you guys talking about in your emails, etc? If your talking in an email just go, "well hey I've gotta run now but what's your number so I can call you later?" And again, I like email because you can go away for a day or so and come back and it be perfectly normal. Talk to her some, chat it up, then go do something, I maintain text messages with a girl for like the time I'm at work, might call her, then cut it all off for a few days, again though just have fun. Have fun with it man, e-mailing is a great way to start, again man just be cocky and funny when the opportunity arises you dont wanna be looked at as goofy. A good way to think about seemingly tough decisions like, "Call now or later now or later?" Take a second, look back and take the more laid back approach if its that hard. But talk to her when you want, its YOUR reality. For the first date you don't even have to go somewhere spectacular, a cup of tea or coffee, a walk to a fun place (fair, etc), downtown where there's stuff to talk about (come on your in Japan there has to be something technological or fun to do there), just focus on you and her enjoying yourselves, you do NOT need to buy a woman dinner etc to get her to like you. I can prove it to you just by telling you to browse these boards and look how many guys tried to convince a woman into liking you. Remember what David DeAngelo said? ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE. Remember that. Do you. Meaning do whatever you feel, just dont get needy, wimpy, under confident, submissive, etc. You know what to do man, I know you have it in you. Go through the book again, download the mastery series (if you can't buy them), just make sure to get it done, you can do it.

 

 

 

Just keep it going well man. And again the mastery series is incredible, believe me.

 

Edit: Man I can't stop grinning. I'm so f*cking proud of you man, I read the beginning of this thread, and now this, ha! And this is just the start man, there's still another...what is it? THREE BILLION WOMEN out there, you're in for some fun man. Hehe I'm so f*cking excited for you. I know it seems kinda weird but when you are giving advice to guys in a year or so and its working you'll know the feeling. Just remember to never ever be arrogant enough to not help someone else, or learn from someone else, no matter how far you think you have come. I'm constantly learning new things every day. Mentors and reference groups are key.

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We talked about casual stuff. Like, ~+What were u doin?~kinda thing, then just brushed the little topic of our upcomin exam, schoolwork and wat r u gona do today, wat u did kinda thing, ummm and I havent replied after that. Mainly, b/c I don't want to give away alot, and I have got her number... Im plannin to call her at night. And do u think I should decide where i go or decide together, D. Deangelo says you need to show u r secure but is it really necessary?

 

I dunno, I'm kind of confused... How deep do I conversate in my emails? I mean the Double your Dating talks about not giving away yourself. Agian, if i do not talk about myself that much she will lose interest in me. So, I was wondering how much am I allowed to give away on the first date and how much in emails, and how often should there be mailin and callin? Do I give away all my background info? B/c as D. Deangelo said and wat i thinkis very true that u can'T let the woman get bored of u.

 

Also, how long should I be talking wid her tomoro. We r most likely meetin at starbucks. Another Q is, D. Deangelo mentioned to sayin we r gona b friends. Do you think i should mention that? My real problem is i don't knwo how to build attraction otehr than eye contact and body language. I do remember, attraction isn't a choice. How do I keep her interested do she feels attraction not as a friend... I can think of lots of things to talk about but I don't have any things i can think of that r cocky and funny. Btw, the examples about teasin the girls in DOuble ur dating r kind of difficult to use; for eg: there isnt gona be hand holdin and stuff on the first date, so how do u play wid em and build the attraction!?

 

lol. I read the book 3 times and I took notes. I am seeing this, its just a little bit more of work. Man, when u say ur grinnin and stuff it makes me nervous like i can't fail da date. Thanks alot anyway and I hope I can understand wat u mean in an year or so. Seriously, u r a dating guru!

 

EDIT* Is it ok to compliment about the girl? But this also disobeys D. Deangelo's thing about not giving ur power... Hmm? Also, Some sites say u can say how u plan the second date on that day.. is that wat i should do... b/c that is wat deangelo said exactly not to do... and finally one more Q, if there is an awkward silence on the date what should be done?

Thank you

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Edit 2* I knwo i am acting very insecure but I think I haven't understood how to get her attention. How, how can I spark up her attraction? also, when do i call next, if i promise her smth. is it bad if i break the promise and call a week later? or i duno...i need help

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this sux... she says she is going 2 a funeral so can we hang out next week.totally weird. do u think this is an excuse?

 

EDIT* did i do the rite things or is she already gona break up or smth?

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Hyakku, please help me.. I need help. My relationship wid the girl is pretty gray. I do email her but I don't even talk to her at school and she says hi and i say hi like an idiot but i don't say anything. After that, she hasn't replied my e-mail, next time wat could I talk to her at school?

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