TeaCooler Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I used to be one of "these" girls. I've seen it, been it and been there so I'm allowed to be judgmental. i disagree. you've seen what you've seen, so it influences what you think of it. that's natural. but it isn't all the same everywhere you go. and even in the same venue, each girl is different. we all have different circumstances and reasons and motivations for everything we do in life. i am a live person, but i don't assume to know every little thing about every other living person, just because i myself have experienced life. that sounded wayyyyy more complicated than it had to be...but anyway... AND some of the girls make a crapload of money doing a little extra. (dont tell me they dont because they do whether its letting a guy diddle them under the table or worse. and this is true. it always gets to me when guys try to say this doesn't ever happen. and it annoys me even more when girls believe it every time. Link to post Share on other sites
whats wrong with me Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Now dont get me wrong I'm not saying all strippers are that way. Some girls do it to pay for school, support their family, etc. What I do believe is that the girls that aren't trash are not the ones Gia, Catgirl and anyone else needs to worry about!! >When a girl wonders if her SO is cheating because he goes to the titty bar she should know why she's worried. If her guy says that kind of stuff doesn't happen...he's lying and she should check it out. > If her guy comes home and says "Oh man, Greg got this skanky chic to give him a blow under the table" he's telling the truth and probably not gonna cheat on her (with any strippers). {messed up isn't it:confused: } I'm not sure if you were implying this but I don't think I know more about life than everyone else. I just think if you look at things through different glasses you can make a more educated decision. matter of fact I'm not that experienced in life, it's justs the experiences I've had are f 'ed up. bout forgot, that realy gets me too...when girls believe nothing happens. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Gia77 Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 I agree with What's wrong with me. Strippers are definitely not perfect, they are not size zeros, they definitely are not necessarily pretty... I'm from NY by the way. I've heard stories about ugly strippers (most of which are the sleezy ones). And I dont think they have any more confidence than another girl. I'm not jealous that these girls have something I dont, hell i can definitely be a stripper if i wanted to, and I have confidence in myself. I wouldnt do it b/c I went to college, have a good job, and would not want to be dancing in front of old, fat, ugly guys for a living. And yes, if you girls go to a club this weekend and ask a guy if he would like to pay to see your boobs, you will definitely find someone happy to fork over some money. Link to post Share on other sites
Toni_no12002 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 No ones perfect.Maybe they look perfect on the outside but they might have ugly personalities.Im not saying they will have but sometimes thats the case.If i see a gorgeous bloke and i mean really really gorgeous.Say i go talk to him and hes a total twat then hes becomes ugly. Theres more to life than looks but we live in such a visual world.Im sure that maybe if a guy talked to one of these strippers he might find a fault with her. I dont like my bloke going to see strippers.He doesnt actually go and never has done.If he wants to go see strippers all the time he can do it when hes single.Fair enough if there was a party with a stripper there,but going all the time is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I'm sure there are ugly ones, but here in Houston there are several of the pricier places (I've only been to the "best" one) and all those girls are also professional cheerleaders or models as well as strippers. Link to post Share on other sites
Toni_no12002 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 still just because they are models doesnt make them perfect. Link to post Share on other sites
whats wrong with me Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I'm sure there are ugly ones, but here in Houston there are several of the pricier places (I've only been to the "best" one) and all those girls are also professional cheerleaders or models as well as strippers. Usually, the professional cheerleaders and models are not gonna sleep with "our" men. Not that your guys aren't hot, it's just that many times those kind of girls think they're too good for somebody "average". I'm sure you've seen this kind of thing in highschool, cheerleaders rarely date outside their clic. I dont worry about those girls I worry about the skanky ones. [to Gia] I was beginning to think I was the only one that realized this (that a guy will pay ANY girl to see her naked) This is bit off topic... but have you ever seen the movie Crybaby with Johnnie Depp? If so do you remember the girl named Chainsaw? I swear I worked at a place that hired a girl that looked just like chainsaw. It was supposed to be a joke but I know she worked there at least 3 months (before I left) and a few times she walked out of there with more cash than the biggest money maker. Dont even ask me how she did it! This chic even smelled bad:sick: ! If your guy respects himself he's not gonna be with anybody SKANKY. Anyway like I said way earlier, Gia your man is probably not screwing around w/ any strippers, cause he doesn't go that often. AND since stripclubs don't seem to be real important to him, if you feel uncomfortable with him going, he shouldn't go. To Gia, Toni & Catgirl and anyone else reading: I bet you guys are hotties and dont even know it I dont know how old you all are but I do hope you guys believe you are better than any skanky strippers. (for the record) When I was a ":rolleyes: dancer:rolleyes: " I didn't think I was all that then, and I don't now. As a matter of fact I have ALWAYS had low self esteem, even when I was bringing home wads of cash. I've always thought I was ugly, too fat, too stupid, etc. It just goes to show you strippers aren't perfect. Sorry this was so long, Iwas trying to make it understandable! Link to post Share on other sites
Toni_no12002 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Thats what i was trying to say that there not all perfect.Everyone doesnt like something about thereselves.Just as whats wrong with me said. Im sure all these models and strippers get spots.Like any normal person so there not completley perfect! Also different people have different opinions.So what one person thinks is beautiful is doesnt always mean another person will think that too.Some people think im ugly.My boyfriend doesnt. I think orlando blooms quite nice not everyone does.Probably the same with strippers not everyone will think they are hot. Link to post Share on other sites
witabix Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Perfection..... From a man's perspective..... All women are perfect, perfectly female, strippers, gardeners, soldiers, chefs, LS posters, the lot. If someone thinks you are hot, you are hot. If someone thinks you are not, ignore them, who cares. Beauty is a societal norm, not an absolute. We all have our own judgements. I have also been described as ugly, fat, bald....... And as handsome, tall, skinny...... I'd like to look like Denzel Washington, or Sean Connery, but I don't. So I just walk around looking like me. I would not pay anyone to take their clothes off. I prefer to take them off myself. Without cash exchanging hands. Ladies, don't get hung up on the size of your butt, or the size of your boobs, you are all beautiful! Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 My guy has always dated cheerleaders and models. I'm the first person he's dated who ever made a living doing anything but just standing around being pretty. Sooo... those girls WOULD be quite interested in him. See, when we first met I was a 2-4, very tan and really not average at all. I don't want to sound all conceited and bitchy, but I just wasn't. Now I've put on 20 lbs and lost my tan and I had this episode with my hair (this stylist bleached it, it was YELLOW, it was awful, don't ask... ) so now it's shorter and basically to make this long paragraph end quicker, I don't feel that great about the way that I look right now. I used to could hold my own with those girls, because with their makeup and lighting I could pass for one of them, even though I'm 10 years older than they are, AND I was smart and funny and made good money. NOW, I'm the smart, funny girl with the great personality who is painfully average looking, and my boyfriend is way hot. It's kinda stressful... Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Catgirl you keep talking about your size, shape, tan, hair, ect..... What are your non - physical attributes? Do you really believe that your SO only cares about your physical attributes? Link to post Share on other sites
roxyg Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Catgirl you keep talking about your size, shape, tan, hair, ect..... What are your non - physical attributes? Do you really believe that your SO only cares about your physical attributes? Well said, I was going to ask the same thing! If he's stayed with you throughout you gaining weight and whatnot, what is there to worry about? Attraction takes on many forms, not just physical! I think it is YOU that needs to realize your potential of being beautiful, not your SO. There is always something about us that makes us stand out above any other girl or guy for that matter, that is why we are with who we are with, because you have something he hasn't found in anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I am going to be harsh here........ typical of me Catgirl quit the my butt is too big pity party! If you walk around in a mope and keep saying I am fat my hair is a rats nest, you will project that to other people around you. You may not even have to say it. Trust me you are sending the "I suck" signal. I think some woman actually believe the "poor me, I am not good enough" attitude is attractive to men, and it may be for a short period of time. But if you continue to state "I am a beast" eventually people around you will start to think it. What the hell is going to happen when you turn 60? Are you going to be pissed because your butt looks saggy? sorry to be harsh..... not my intent to attack... but damn girl you got to get some self worth. Link to post Share on other sites
whats wrong with me Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Catgirl: Perfection..... From a man's perspective..... All women are perfect, perfectly female, strippers, gardeners, soldiers, chefs, LS posters, the lot. If someone thinks you are hot, you are hot. If someone thinks you are not, ignore them, who cares. Beauty is a societal norm, not an absolute. We all have our own judgements. I have also been described as ugly, fat, bald....... And as handsome, tall, skinny...... I'd like to look like Denzel Washington, or Sean Connery, but I don't. So I just walk around looking like me. I would not pay anyone to take their clothes off. I prefer to take them off myself. Without cash exchanging hands. Ladies, don't get hung up on the size of your butt, or the size of your boobs, you are all beautiful! and witabix hasn't seen any of us! Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Catgirl you keep talking about your size, shape, tan, hair, ect..... What are your non - physical attributes? Do you really believe that your SO only cares about your physical attributes? No, he doesn't. He loves me. I just want to be perfect! He would never cheat with one of those girls. I just don't want him to look at them, then look and me, and go, well, she's got a nice personality... Link to post Share on other sites
Toni_no12002 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 beauty comes in all forms.You can be big and be beautiful.Im a size 14 (uk sizes) but i have a boyfriend and a baby.My boyfriend loves me and he always saying im beautiful.I dont particulaly like the way i look.I think i look ugly,but hey who doesnt lol.I look at these people on tv ,take britney spears for example.In her videos she looks stunning.Have you seen her when shes walking round the streets!she isnt anything special! I did hair and beauty at college and theres loads of ways to make you look really good.I dont wear make up infact i dont really like it unless its for say a night out.I hate in when people pile it on it just shows they have something to hide!All these models wearing make up do it to make there skin appear flawless when it actually isnt.If they was that good looking and had flawless skin ,why wear it? To be honest i think id rather be plain and have a great personality than be drop dead gorgeous and be a complete cow. Looks attract people at first but its your personality that keeps them with you. Link to post Share on other sites
loveheart59 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 No one said models have perfect skin (well actually some of the younger ones do!) before models are taken on they are checked on their skin because the worse the skin the more they have to pay for touch ups, the whole point of modelling is to create an image and make up is a part of it. Many people on on tv like Halle Berry, Kelly Brook and Elle Mcferson look nice avec no make up:) . I heard a while ago from somewhere that people are getting used to this doctored photos of stars where they look symmetrical and flawless so when they see a real picture of them they think they arent pretty:( . Interesting fact: In women some kind of babyfacedness is considered beautiful (like doe eyes and soft features). Also symmetry is very important, if you put your palms close together with your wrists inline; the distance between the tips of your fingers (left and right) tell you how much symmetry you have in your features. Link to post Share on other sites
catgirl1927 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Symmetry is more beautiful. My eyes are different shapes, I eventually want to get them fixed. Link to post Share on other sites
loveheart59 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Im pretty sure everyones eyes are slightly different. You tend to have one that looks fresh and on that looks slightly tired, may be something to do with your dominant side;) . Link to post Share on other sites
Toni_no12002 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 No ones face is exactly symmetrical.On some people you notice it more than others.One of my eyes is more droopy than the other but people dont notice.I notice because you always seem to notice things like that on yourself.I dont think though that just because your face isnt exactly the same on both sides that your not pretty. I read an article in a magazine not so long ago.It was about how celebs have photo shoots.It showed that kelly brook (even though she actual has a nice figure anyway)has had airbrushing to her hips.It showed one of the people from a magazine having a photo shoot.She had a nice figure and she had her photo took in a bikini.Afterwards they made all sorts of alterations.The woman acually said how awful it must be for celebs to go and have there photo and then people change them because of there flaws, as they always get there flaws pointed out.So they get there noses rubbed in it all the time. Link to post Share on other sites
loveheart59 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 I know nobodys exactly symmetrical but the more symmetrical you are the more pretty you at to people looking at you. They did a test on babys a long while ago and found when showing them photos close to 6 months the babies preffered to look at the pictures with symmetrical features (the pictures that adults found most attractive) so it seems this preference may be inborn. Have you ever noticed how symmetrical David Beckams face was? I dont like him no more coz hes a cheat but cant help looking at it:o . Link to post Share on other sites
Toni_no12002 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 To be honest i personally dont think hes that good looking.Everyone has different views.That is what im talking about,no one thinks exactly the same.We are all completley different.Someone might be ugly to someone else but to another they might be beautiful. Describe to me what beauty is? If you can!describe someone that is beautiful!.Why do people fall in love with people that is totally the opposite. You can say i like men with six packs and blonde hair.So why would you fall in love with someone that has a beer belly and brown hair?I did !Real life is totally different to fantasy! Link to post Share on other sites
loveheart59 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Its nothing to do with fantasy. What usually happens with people who I talk to who fall for someone not conventionally good looking is that at first they are not attracted to them at all but after getting to know their personality they fall in love, and sometimes fall in love with their appearance. But the same rule applies, if a very unproportioned potbellied man walks down the street I gurantee no-one will find him good looking but maybe if they got to know him they could grow to like it. Anyways Im not just talking about the one person that knows you! Im talking about when many people agree that a said person is good looking without even knowing them, is usually because of symmetrical looking features. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest4 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Everyone has one eye bigger than the other. I knew one girl who had it maybe a tad more noticable but every guy still wanted her cause she was beautiful. It just depends on your features as a whole, how much they compliment eachother on your face maybe. Link to post Share on other sites
T93 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 To be honest i personally dont think hes that good looking.Everyone has different views.That is what im talking about,no one thinks exactly the same.We are all completley different.Someone might be ugly to someone else but to another they might be beautiful. Describe to me what beauty is? If you can!describe someone that is beautiful!.Why do people fall in love with people that is totally the opposite. You can say i like men with six packs and blonde hair.So why would you fall in love with someone that has a beer belly and brown hair?I did !Real life is totally different to fantasy! Some people believe smell has a lot to do with falling in love with the right mate. It's quite interesting. You should look it up. Link to post Share on other sites
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