Admiral Thrawn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Resentment (the poster) may have a problem with religion for all sorts of reasons. Some people grow up with parents who physically abuse them, and somehow manage to find quotes in the bible that appear to justify such abuse. I think in other threads there has been discussion of dangerous and insane people who have believed, despite their crimes against fellow humans, that they had a special relationship with God. Resentment has a spirit of blashphemy, and is perhaps possessed by allot of demons, who is making him feel the way he does and think the ways he does. I have read books involving ex-satanists who found Christ as their Saviour that did an expose into their evil cult, and that cult is alive and well today. They kill people, drink their blood, and all sort of sick bizzarre stuff that I am not going to go into. Descration of churches and bibles - is part of their sick worship. I'm dont know about the other threads, but I wonder what this guy is up to. They target virgins, Christians, any people for their sick ritualistic sacrifices, they steal blood that is donated, ... the police are into it, it is a conspiracy. I'm not going to go into it. You apparently believe a4a is the devil. Not necessarily. The devil blinded his eyes to the truth. Re-read my post. a4a might just be presenting you with a similar viewpoint to the one you will be met with at the holy gates. The heavenly dwellers may well have reservations about you. They might be concerned that the preaching habits Admiral Thrawn developed as an earthling will, by the time he ascends the holy stairwell, be far too ingrained for him to give them up. "Can you imagine" ....they might ask of eachother "listening to that 24/7?" On that basis, and bearing in mind that heaven is supposed to be an enjoyable place to spend one's afterlife, they might not want to let you in unless and until you can learn a little humility and stop kidding on to everyone that you have some sort of hotline to God. The problem is you and a4a have no authority behind what you are saying. You are unaware of the occult or devil-cults, and are ignorant about the things in the Bible. So, naturally, everything is a big joke to a4a and yourself, unless, by chance, and God forbid, you are a victim to one of their 'rituals', then it wouldn't be a laughing matter. In other words, you do not have a clue what you are talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
lindya Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Resentment has a spirit of blashphemy, and is perhaps possessed by allot of demons, who is making him feel the way he does and think the ways he does. I have read books involving ex-satanists who found Christ as their Saviour that did an expose into their evil cult, and that cult is alive and well today. They kill people, drink their blood, and all sort of sick bizzarre stuff that I am not going to go into. Descration of churches and bibles - is part of their sick worship. I'm dont know about the other threads, but I wonder what this guy is up to. They target virgins, Christians, any people for their sick ritualistic sacrifices, they steal blood that is donated, ... the police are into it, it is a conspiracy. I'm not going to go into it. I think these are issues you should probably be discussing this with your doctor. Absorbing yourself in books about devil worship and becoming pre-occupied with the idea of satanic conspiracies is really not the best or healthiest way to live your life. Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I think these are issues you should probably be discussing this with your doctor. Absorbing yourself in books about devil worship and becoming pre-occupied with the idea of satanic conspiracies is really not the best or healthiest way to live your life. The doctor is part of the conspiracy, you cant defeat a conspiracist theory by saying go do a doctor, you can only defeat it by counter-evidence that it is not true, which is beyond your capability. What did I say in my post? I said I have read books in the past written by Rebecca Brown, Md, and her friend Eleina. Her books are "He Came To Set the Captives Free, Prepare for War, Vessle of Honour, Unbroken Curses'. You can look up on her by printing 'Rebecca Brown, MD' on yahoo or any other search engine - and you could put sub-searches in the titles of her books. These are not devil-books - but creepingly too much information is on them. Link to post Share on other sites
lindya Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 The doctor is part of the conspiracy, you cant defeat a conspiracist theory by saying go do a doctor, you can only defeat it by counter-evidence that it is not true, which is beyond your capability. What did I say in my post? I said I have read books in the past written by Rebecca Brown, Md, and her friend Eleina. Her books are "He Came To Set the Captives Free, Prepare for War, Vessle of Honour, Unbroken Curses'. You can look up on her by printing 'Rebecca Brown, MD' on yahoo or any other search engine - and you could put sub-searches in the titles of her books. These are not devil-books - but creepingly too much information is on them. Thank you, but they don't sound my sort of thing. I think you should try reading something entertaining and uplifting for a change. It would do you good to take your mind off religion for a bit, and stop dwellling on depressing ideas like conspiracy theories. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 You can't have freedom of religion without freedom from religion. I have every right to blaspheme God. I sure hope that God does not exist. I don't want him to be real. Every time someone preaches the gospel to me I just don't want anything to do with it. I want nothing to do with God or church or religious people. I am basically a satan worshipper. If God exists I want Him and His children to leave me alone. You can actually. And if you believe in Satan, then there is a God. HATE is an awfully strong feeling and it is draining to allow it to eat you up. You seem to have had afew bad experiences that have put you off or you've been brainwashed by satan worshippers. Something isn't right though. If you really hated religion PERIOD, then you wouldn't involve yourself in worshipping satan. Why not just be an atheist? Or just live life without including any sort of religion? I'm with afew others on this, I think you need some counselling. You're angry, bitter and spewing alot of hate. I'm not religious but I will say burning a bible is just so disrespectful. It's like burning your national flag! People just shouldn't do that. Consider getting some help, please. You don't want to live life so full of hatred and miserable. Good luck and keep posting. Link to post Share on other sites
Naive Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I am basically a satan worshipper. So you believe in Satan but not God? How can that be? Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Resentment (the poster) may have a problem with religion for all sorts of reasons. Some people grow up with parents who physically abuse them, and somehow manage to find quotes in the bible that appear to justify such abuse. I think in other threads there has been discussion of dangerous and insane people who have believed, despite their crimes against fellow humans, that they had a special relationship with God. You apparently believe a4a is the devil. Not necessarily. a4a might just be presenting you with a similar viewpoint to the one you will be met with at the holy gates. The heavenly dwellers may well have reservations about you. They might be concerned that the preaching habits Admiral Thrawn developed as an earthling will, by the time he ascends the holy stairwell, be far too ingrained for him to give them up. "Can you imagine" ....they might ask of eachother "listening to that 24/7?" On that basis, and bearing in mind that heaven is supposed to be an enjoyable place to spend one's afterlife, they might not want to let you in unless and until you can learn a little humility and stop kidding on to everyone that you have some sort of hotline to God. Yeah I am the fruckin devil alright...... Admiral you need to get off your holy high horse.... religion or believing in the bible aint all what there is to life. I have dedicated my entire life to helping others, helping animals, and I do go without so others can take what little I have to offer at the end of the day. I don't put stock market gambles on my credit cards I use them to fund trips to places like Mississippi for hurricane relief, I use them to buy food for seniors and their pets so they seniors don't have to eat their cats food. I do this 7 days a week not just after a uplifting Sunday Sermon. I buy my clothing at good will so I can afford to help others in need. I have gone without food so I can help others, I go without many pleasures that I could otherwise have...... but not in the name of your god. I do so because I can, I choose to, otherwise I would have a hole in my heart knowing I could help but I did not....... how are you really helping people with this damnation and hellfire? If your god were to be able to look me in the eye and say I was not allowed in to heaven simply because I did not believe in him I would gladly spend my eternity with the devil at least he seems to be a bit more on the fair side and realistic, and for that matter more honest about his intentions. Do you not see how you are actually hurting people with your fire and brimstone clatter? Perhaps I am Jesus and I have returned..... prove I am not. You cannot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bogun Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Is it any wonder that this guy/girl posted what he did?? This is how some of the christians responded, telling him one or more of the following; 1. They hate him too 2. They dont give a toss how he feels 3. He's going to hell 4. Quoted from the problem So much for being compassionate. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Exactly my point...... start spouting off bible quotes to a person that is obviously in pain ect..... No clue who they are or why they are reaching out by posting that they are so upset with religion. Throwing judgement that they will burn in hell does not help one bit. Even if you don't believe hell exists. It is just spitting in another humans face while they reach out for possible help? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 a4a; You may be good in your own eyes, but the Bible says that "...all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). You have never sinned before? Of course you have, everyone has. Many, many people in the Bible lost out greatly, although they had led exempliary lives, because of a single act of disobedience (sin). Moses, led the people Israel through the wilderness, dont you think he deserved to see the Promised land for all his service to the Lord. He disobeyed God at one point when he struck a rock for water and said something wrong. He lost his right to see the land of Canaan and died before that time. The character of God is consistent in the Bible, all sin, great or small has to be judged, because it is disobedience. What you fail to state in your post is all the sins you have committed since you were born, because they will all go on your head. You best compare yourself to Jesus and not to me, or anyone else, since that is the acceptable standard in which you will be judged. Jesus never sinned once in His whole life. You have sinned many times. Therefore, without Christ, you will die in your sins. When you come to the point, that you realise how great and holy God is, and how impure you are, then you in the right frame of mind. Isaiah was a prophet, who, may have been seen as a good man. Isaiah 6:5 "Then said I. Woe is me! for I am undone: because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of Hosts". This is out of the mouth of a 'good man'. Why? Because when he meet God face-to-face, that is how he saw himself through God's eyes. Unless you come to that same position you really do not know what you are talking about. Or, let's take another reference to God's holiness, on the mountain where Moses went up to get the 10 Commandments. Exodus 19:21 "And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish". Exodus 20:19 "And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die." There are much more illustrations in the Bible about God's Holiness and where nothing unholy can survive before God. If you were one of those people there, it would have been the same for you, as it is for Isiaiah. You only understand your sin only in the context of the absolute Holiness of God, and within that context, you need a Savior like everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites
Bogun Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 that should say "bible" not "problem".....well its been a long day lol Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 And the GREAT TATER said people who live in glass houses shall not cast thee firstest stoneth. Whatever ADDy. I think you are in for a rude awakening when you are judge for your lack of compassion and understanding at the end. Evolve already. This is not about your belief this is about you. The way you attack people with that damn bible. Think about that. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 that should say "bible" not "problem".....well its been a long day lol At this point I am seeing it as a "problem" for some :lmao: I have to wonder if AT is trying to convince himself to believe or reaffirm or something..... I respect the right to believe what you want. Like Moose or Quacky or others... but bible thumping is just not nice. Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 And the GREAT TATER said people who live in glass houses shall not cast thee firstest stoneth. Whatever ADDy. I think you are in for a rude awakening when you are judge for your lack of compassion and understanding at the end. Evolve already. This is not about your belief this is about you. The way you attack people with that damn bible. Think about that. Lack of compassion or do you mean compromising the truth? That is what it is these days, about being 'politically correct'? Your version of compassion is to lie and tell people what they want to hear. Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Is it any wonder that this guy/girl posted what he did?? This is how some of the christians responded, telling him one or more of the following; 1. They hate him too 2. They dont give a toss how he feels 3. He's going to hell 4. Quoted from the problem So much for being compassionate. Nothing here is going to change that guy's beliefs except for the power of God and people praying and fasting for him in a Christian church or area where he is around. It is a spiritual issue, not one that can be solved with reasoning, so nothing said on this thread will make a difference to him, or anyone for that matter. If you want a drama show, go and look at TV or go to the movies. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Lack of compassion or do you mean compromising the truth? That is what it is these days, about being 'politically correct'? Your version of compassion is to lie and tell people what they want to hear. that is your truth not every persons..... do you not understand that? Where is Free Will or are we only to believe the holy rantings of AT. BTW my rescue dog has a broken leg, really does, vet just quoted $1,200 to fix it. Do you think Benny Hinn could go ahead and heal him? heal not heel. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Resentment has a spirit of blashphemy, and is perhaps possessed by allot of demons, who is making him feel the way he does and think the ways he does. I have read books involving ex-satanists who found Christ as their Saviour that did an expose into their evil cult, and that cult is alive and well today. They kill people, drink their blood, and all sort of sick bizzarre stuff that I am not going to go into. Descration of churches and bibles - is part of their sick worship. I'm dont know about the other threads, but I wonder what this guy is up to. They target virgins, Christians, any people for their sick ritualistic sacrifices, they steal blood that is donated, ... the police are into it, it is a conspiracy. I'm not going to go into it. The devil blinded his eyes to the truth. Re-read my post. The problem is you and a4a have no authority behind what you are saying. You are unaware of the occult or devil-cults, and are ignorant about the things in the Bible. So, naturally, everything is a big joke to a4a and yourself, unless, by chance, and God forbid, you are a victim to one of their 'rituals', then it wouldn't be a laughing matter. In other words, you do not have a clue what you are talking about. I so missed this post. Are you aware of all the facts involved with the HYPE of SATANIST? The real fact is that very little of what you stated ever has or had happened. Christians certainly sacraficed more people in the name of their god then any devil worshippers I hang out with. As for me being a victim I am probably more likely to attend a cuddle party with you.... highly unlikely....nor am I a virgin so gosh I feel left out and unwanted. and as for authority you have a book, show me your physical artifacts besides what man has built..... the Egyptians built pyramids and statues too.........but I do not expect Ra to knock at my door anytime soon. You do not realize that you are not an authority. Is not being humble a virtue? Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Is it any wonder that this guy/girl posted what he did?? This is how some of the christians responded, telling him one or more of the following; 1. They hate him too 2. They dont give a toss how he feels 3. He's going to hell 4. Quoted from the problem So much for being compassionate.I'm glad I'm not guilty of these! Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 that is your truth not every persons..... do you not understand that? Where is Free Will or are we only to believe the holy rantings of AT. BTW my rescue dog has a broken leg, really does, vet just quoted $1,200 to fix it. Do you think Benny Hinn could go ahead and heal him? heal not heel. As I recall, I just made a couple of posts on this thread, and you saw it fit to make a mockery of the last of the two posts I made. So, if you do not like what I, or anyone else believes, then it is rather YOUR TRUTH, is not the truth of every person and not the other way around, since I never made any arguements or mocked anyone on this thread. You did. Even if you call it my truth, the fact is it is affecting you to the extent it is, and the way in which you are responding to it, so obviously, you must believe it is true, even though you dont like it, but know it is true, otherwise you wouldn't have started a whole arguement over it now, would you? Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I so missed this post. Are you aware of all the facts involved with the HYPE of SATANIST? The real fact is that very little of what you stated ever has or had happened. Christians certainly sacraficed more people in the name of their god then any devil worshippers I hang out with. As for me being a victim I am probably more likely to attend a cuddle party with you.... highly unlikely....nor am I a virgin so gosh I feel left out and unwanted. and as for authority you have a book, show me your physical artifacts besides what man has built..... the Egyptians built pyramids and statues too.........but I do not expect Ra to knock at my door anytime soon. You do not realize that you are not an authority. Is not being humble a virtue? Again, the only person on this thread that seems to have serious issues about what I believe is true is you. The energy that you are taking to try and make a point, is really expended trying to convince yourself of your own view point of the world. For the record, all my posts have been to the point, objective, while your posts are personal, redicolous and simply does not make any sence. In other words it is impossible to get into any intelligent dialogue with someone who has nothing better to do than to mock, jeer, or throw out garbage, and in a sence, it is a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites
Bogun Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I'm glad I'm not guilty of these! I disagree... We'll see about that pal.....Satan has you FOOLED!!! You'll find this out the hard way..... and... That's pretty sad. Especially since most people probably couldn't give a care what you are. I care. Ever seen an ostrich put its head in the sand, moose? Nothing here is going to change that guy's beliefs except for the power of God and people praying and fasting for him in a Christian church or area where he is around. It is a spiritual issue, not one that can be solved with reasoning, so nothing said on this thread will make a difference to him, or anyone for that matter. If you want a drama show, go and look at TV or go to the movies. I'm not a christian, but I admired and respected mother theresa. I'm not a hindu, but I admired ghandi. I'm not a muslim, but I admired malcom x. I was convinced of the beliefs I have, because of the compassion and wisdom shown by all the people that were experienced in it. If you want to convince someone of the worthiness of your spiritual beliefs, this is the best way. Not by throwing bible verses at them with a holier-than-thou attitude. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCooler Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Do you turn into a werewolf when there's a full moon? no, but i think he was born a troll on 27th January 2006, 3:22 PM, and has stayed that way ever since. however, i don't think the radical, fanatic-route is the way to go with someone like this guy. you can't tell someone they can't hate god and then go on and on about your love for him. both views can be equally disturbing or disgusting to someone who disagrees, then. ***sorry, bogun, i was typing while you were posting...looks like we were on the same track. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Okay obviously this guy has powerful anti-god feelings or whatever but I believe that this thread was merely made so that everyone would rant and rave at each other just so he could attempt to prove his point that Christians are bad. I am not exactly the most Christian out of everyone, far from it, but I do believe everyone is entitled to an opinion, so here is mine: OP, you claim to hate God, but how do you hate something you dont believe is there? You cannot be a satan-worshipper if you dont believe in God. Satan would not be there if he were not the 'enemy' of God. Therefor, you are in fact contradicting yourself. Exactly which kind of Christians do you hate? There are so many different types who can count? You mentioned that you ALSO hate white preachers.... what is this? The era of the f@cking KKK? If you in fact were serious about this you wouldnt have felt to emphasise on hatred of ALSO white preachers... who are you really kidding? The other posters, however, who are spouting their bible quotes like it is going out of fashion should realise that some people are not destined to be a Christian and their dislike of religion in fact stems from having it forced down their throat their whole lives. When I was growing up, I was very open minded and I definetely would have ended up devoutly christian (Catholic in fact) if not for having it forced down my throat, people using a text which was written thousands of years ago and using it in relation to the modern day. Religion is in fact not exactly dying but not incredibly strong either. Half of the US would be atheist or at least have only gone to Church for special occassions eg weddings. I studied the Bible and indeed it was enlightening but those who dedicate their whole lives to thinking of what will happen after they die are frankly wasting their life. Perhaps the meaning of life is to not think of what is coming next, but to live your life day to day??? I apologise if I offend anyone, it was not my intention at all, I have my opinions which I am entitled. I just wish that life was so much easier that we didnt still have people sprouting utter cr@p just to gain attention... hmn... troll anyone? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 II'm not a christian, but I admired and respected mother theresa. I'm not a hindu, but I admired ghandi. I'm not a muslim, but I admired malcom x. I was convinced of the beliefs I have, because of the compassion and wisdom shown by all the people that were experienced in it. If you want to convince someone of the worthiness of your spiritual beliefs, this is the best way. Not by throwing bible verses at them with a holier-than-thou attitude. Except, we are not dealing with a Salt movement with the British in India here, the Civil Rights movement, or some other movement in here - this is a message board, so what you are saying, by inferring judgements about my attitude or bible verses are unfounded. Nobody is going to have any impact with anyone here unless there are real people in the real offline world. What this forum is good for is engaging in intelligent discussion, and learning things. Now, people complain that I quote from a religious authority - but the reality is that anyone else here can quote from any authority they want to, including the Bible themselves - it is not my fault that other non-Christian people on this board believe in nothing and cant quote from anything. I think there have been constructive discussions, for example, with Moai on other threads. He is Atheist and yet we can engage in an intelligent discussion without it being degenerated into a bashing contest. If you compare that discussion to a4a and myself here you will see a stark contrast. Nobody is quoting from any other religious text, because they dont believe in it like I believe in the Bible - so if you say you were impressed with Malcom X, then its a wonder why his own religion killed him - how does that reflect? Malcom X was betrayed by his own faith. If you are impressed with Ghandi, then I guess you are reading up the Bagdivad Gita or something, right? I wouldn't, but if you are really impressed with Ghandi, I guess that is something you should be doing, right? Become a Hindu. You like these people, but have not converted to any of their religions, it is interesting. The real problem here are people, are people are jealous that I have a firm faith structure and they dont, so it is really a case of sour-grapes. I know what I believe. So this has nothing at all to do with a 'holier-than-thou' attitude. People are looking for a compromise of my position or stand of faith - and that is never going to happen. People die for their faith, and I hope it is that strong that even a bullet through my head wont even cause a waver. None of my posts to a4a from what I can recall were judgemental or exhibiting a 'holier-than-thou' attitude, however a4a's was just on a bashing contest, and it appears he is jealous like crazy because I have faith that the Bible is the true word of God, and that I believe Jesus Christ. Which incidentally he can too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
karenina21 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Who's bothering you, exactly? Did anybody take you and force you to sit in those churches? If you want nothing to do with it, great. Then don't. But you don't have to announce it. If you want people to respect how you feel, then respect how they feel. I don't take a sh*t every single day--but I don't announce that to the world. Some things don't need to be said. Oh wait, I just did. Link to post Share on other sites
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