johnation33 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I've been looking around on the internet looking for openers and advice, and i found these two websites. *Note both of these are male attracting female websites, female responses still welcome cause i want to know if these "methods" actually work or had them work on you before i've been looking through most of the materials and posts, and I didn't realize how many rules they put up in how to play the game. In any case this is what I got out of both of them. 1.confidence... 2.approach girls everywhere... 3. You got to think your the **** and have the girl prove why she should go out with you 4. kino 5. always have more than one girl 6. be a challenge 7.have control One website has "patterns" to run on girls, and i wonder, do they really do what they say? For example, there is an excerpt from a pattern that attempts to get a girl horny. basically it has to do with "key words" that trigger sexiness in women, kind of like NLP (neurolinguisitic programming) but my question is, are all these advices legit? Link to post Share on other sites
DWJK Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 It works.. alot of the SSers running patterns and all that NLP **** usually have a sour-taste in their mouth afterwards. Its genuine mind control, not getting to know people and having quality relationships If you're a guy out just to get laid, then I suppose that the patterns would be the best method. But anything beyond that is almost as manipulative as drugging a girl and bringing her back to your apartment Link to post Share on other sites
hyakku Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 You need to go back through the sites. You don't have to have some incredible things on you. But yes you must be confident, you should approach any women you are interested in, You don't have to use kino or have more than one girl (no idea where it says that), being a challenge should be fun for both of you, and staying in control is obvious. If you cant control yourself how can you have a stable relationship. And don't go for seducing or comforting her first. Go for attracting, then comforting, then seduction, nice little tip I learned. A few openers I like (and personally I actually TALK about my openers besides just throwing them out there) because I am GENUINLY interested in the answers are: Who lies more? Men or Women? and Who cheats more men and women? It seems alot of women will say women or they are both equal, they are interesting answers. The jealous girlfriend opener, just look it up I'm not gonna type it all up, but I love talking about this because its so interesting. I just started really approaching women (after all I'm pretty young lol), and I'm having FUN with it. Some women I don't even want the numbers/emails from, I just like the conversations. Another is. Can guys and women ever have open relationships? IF she asked how say, You know when they both are dating other people. And one I haven't tried yet is go, "Hey, don't have much time but let me ask you. If a guy came up to you how would you prefer his approach would you prefer it masculine, soft, or just like a question." Let her talk maybe continue or if she says what go, alright I'll demonstrate each one you show me how you like it. Then turn around and on the masculine one put on an overly serious face turn around and go, "Hey babe...wanna cyber?" or something incredible weird in a masculine sounding voice. Next one turn around and put on one of those scared faces (which shouldn't be too hard if your nervous lol), and go, "Hi...umm.......*look down at your feet and move em around*.....eh.....I just eh........wanted to eh......say .........hi." I got this from a friend who was talking to a few of us and this girl and he made a joke simiarly to this about a friend of ours acting like this. There's a ton out there, but really actually ASK the question. Don't just run the routine to get laid, be genuinely interested. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 For example, there is an excerpt from a pattern that attempts to get a girl horny (this is in a storytelling format) The only sensation that would trigger is a wave of nausea that would send me fleeing for the nearest restroom. That's got to be the corniest, cheesiest, smarmiest thing I've read in quite a while and my opinion of someone who would say & do that is that he's corny, cheesy, and smarmy. Link to post Share on other sites
SoleMate Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 The eye contact thing MIGHT work, if the man in question happens to be the 1 in a 100 that already caught her eye and excited her before he even looked towards her. Otherwise, I agree, I'd be reaching for a barf bag or calling a cop. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 It works.. alot of the SSers running patterns and all that NLP **** usually have a sour-taste in their mouth afterwards. Its genuine mind control, not getting to know people and having quality relationships If you're a guy out just to get laid, then I suppose that the patterns would be the best method. But anything beyond that is almost as manipulative as drugging a girl and bringing her back to your apartment well-said. if you want to be a low-down manipulative jerk that makes women into bitter man-hating feminazis, go right ahead and use these techniques. they will work on some women who haven't wised up yet. hyakku's openers is about as far to take it if you want to stay legit. be genuinely interested in the girl, or at least in her answer. i would caution with his idea of control however. don't take it too far, it's better if the couple can switch off or share control and power. Link to post Share on other sites
Author johnation33 Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 good replies... i guess the reason i asked this question was that well i've been looking for advice on cold approaches (where you meet someone in a coffee shop, bookstore, library, street, etc who you dont know) and trying to strike up a conversation. both those websites have canned approaches/openers for me to say, but I sensed that most of them seemed bull****/awkward. I thought those websites were a bit hoaxy. Anyways, I don't really have a great social network especially since i've moved around a lot so im limited to girls who don't know me. any advice on good approaches/openers? Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Ask a question. Any question. You will be someplace so there surely will be a pertinent question to ask about the location. Depending on whether the question you ask is answered brusquely or not, you may have an opener to ask more questions. For instance, in a bookstore you can ask where a section is (maybe ask if she knows where the books on investing are LOL) and then ask if this is her preferred bookstore or if she's been to an author signing or what other stores she would recommend to find some sort of gizmo commonly sold in bookstores. Link to post Share on other sites
Author johnation33 Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 so then after I strike up a question and have a conversation, is it acceptable to ask the person lets go grab a cup of coffee? Or am I going to fast, should I just get the number first. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 but my question is, are all these advices legit? these are businesses J33 and operate mainly to part guys who cannot get pussy from their hard-earned money. i would think that some of their advice is pretty good but you have to pay to get it. and if you're alrady having so much trouble with getting women that you have to pay someone to show you how then something is majorly wrong... you'd probably get much better real-world advice for free by talking with men who are already good with women. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Again, depends on the reception you get. You could say 'I was just thinking of going over to (coffee place) for a coffee' and watch her face - there may be an opening for you to say 'would you like to join me?'. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 learn how to flirt. be funny, lighthearted, teasing--that is the most important skill with women you will ever develop--the ability to take things that are around you or happening around you and make a little joke out of it...then yes if you get a good response move it to coffee. Link to post Share on other sites
Outcast Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 With all due respect, people who aren't naturally funny aren't good at it and some people take teasing the wrong way. If you're not naturally funny, don't try to be so or it may fall flat - as will your attempt to make an impression. Link to post Share on other sites
tanbark813 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 The only sensation that would trigger is a wave of nausea that would send me fleeing for the nearest restroom. That's got to be the corniest, cheesiest, smarmiest thing I've read in quite a while and my opinion of someone who would say & do that is that he's corny, cheesy, and smarmy. If it comes across that way then the guy isn't doing it right. The whole point is to have is come across as natural. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 With all due respect, people who aren't naturally funny aren't good at it and some people take teasing the wrong way. If you're not naturally funny, don't try to be so or it may fall flat - as will your attempt to make an impression. being light and funny is a skill that can be developed in most people. Link to post Share on other sites
ShopStAr101 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 probably not Link to post Share on other sites
hyakku Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 well-said. if you want to be a low-down manipulative jerk that makes women into bitter man-hating feminazis, go right ahead and use these techniques. they will work on some women who haven't wised up yet. hyakku's openers is about as far to take it if you want to stay legit. be genuinely interested in the girl, or at least in her answer. i would caution with his idea of control however. don't take it too far, it's better if the couple can switch off or share control and power. Sorry I might have phrased that wrong I agree with you cygny, what I should have said was, "Be in control of YOURSELF." Meaning make sure you have you're life together, or for the very least don't get all wacked out over small things. You ever see some crazy guy like that? Someone bumps into him he eyes them all up and down and you can almost see his blood rising and gettin angry. Or if some waitress messes up his order or something he gets all angry and storms out. These people get wayyy too easily destabilizied. And again ENJOY yourself, and be INTERESTING and INTERESTED. (Hmm thats an interesting concept). Something I just thought of while typing it I just mean to not be a boring person (boring speech, tone, body language, etc), and don't just blow her off and not be actually interested in her. If you're thinking, "GET LAID GET LAID GET LAID GET LAID GET LAID" while talking to her, its going to come out. Really man, theres a thing called masturbation if you are really that aroused. You should actually be interested in at LEAST getting know the damn woman's name. Obviously if something attracted you to her you should be more willing to get to know her better. I mean sure you can actually get sex from a woman in like 7-10 hours, but then to just abandon them afterwards just makes you really pathetic (at least in my eyes), the point of dating is to have fun. I mean we humans do two things in life, Survive and Replicate. So ENJOY doing the two things we MUST do (or try) in life. Enjoy life, and enjoy love. And of course I wasn't telling YOU to go masturbate, just in general guys that do this. Link to post Share on other sites
SmoochieFace Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 being light and funny is a skill that can be developed in most people. So what about those guys who aren't *funny* - haha-funny, I mean? Are they allowed to have women or are they condemned to a life of being alone? Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Honey Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Being funny and having a sense of humor are two different things, IMO. I couldn't stand to live with someone who is continually joking about everything. I couldn't live with a comedian. OTOH, having a sense of humor makes life worth living. At least it makes life easier to deal with. As far as learning how to get women to like you from websites . . . that's like learning how to perform brain surgery online, is it not? Doesn't some real-life experience have value? Link to post Share on other sites
ReluctantRomeo Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 As far as learning how to get women to like you from websites . . . that's like learning how to perform brain surgery online, is it not? Yeah, but the damage done by a botched brain operation is as nothing compared to the damage you'll receive when a girl discovers the entire relationship and seduction has been a series of pick-up techniques you got online... Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Honey Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 RR: That's true. Link to post Share on other sites
BlahBlahQueen Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 So what about those guys who aren't *funny* - haha-funny, I mean? Are they allowed to have women or are they condemned to a life of being alone? No, of course not. Some of us go for the comedians and some of us like a more serious guy. It's the sense of humor that matters, which, as LilHoney pointed out, is different from actually being funny. If you can take things lightheartedly and chuckle at a joke or an irony, that's what matters. We like someone who doesn't look at life from behind a scowl or a blank stare. Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Thrawn Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I dont know about the seduction website. I've purchased a couple of products from different websites - but have not really connected with the information content or been able to really apply the concepts on the products. They just make up 'sound good' names like confidence, and other stuff , but when you are out there, you are always going to be your same old sence no matter what information you take in. The online seduction products gives you a false sence of hope for the first week or two, which I will call a 'Honey-moon' period where you think you have something that may dramatically change your life, and you are back to where you started again once you get tired of listening and applying BS ideas that anybody would know anyway. So, don't buy anything unless it's really cheap. Some of the best products I have that makes the most sence, actually just cost $ 20.00. I've paid up to $ 99.00 for other products that was good for entertainment, in a sence, but not much more in terms of application. You then feel bad asking for a refund with some of these completely useless products. So, my advice here is to be cheap. Go to the library, or bookstore, and dont spend more than $ 20.00 or $ 30.00 on this stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Basic Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 having a sense of humor makes life worth living. At least it makes life easier to deal with. True. Have a sense of humor about getting rejected too. Shake it off and get back in the game. Get her laughing is usually a good sign. But don't stay the clown too long. Drop in a few flirtings early on. Little later allow her glimpses of the the lust you have for her. She has found a funny and flirting man who clearly wants her. This is much of what she needs to make a decision about getting to know you better. Location. In a bar of singles it's best to move things along at a fast pace. At a bookstore. A much slower pace is better. Find out if she goes there often. Continue your advances over a series of "chance encounters" At work. (if you care to indulge there) You have more time. I won't get involved with a co-worker. But I keep up a mild flirting and basically most of what I do around certain women is designed to attract them. When I change employers as is often the case, I approach one or several with a serious intentions. I've had much success this way. It's been long time for me. So don't bother with my advice. Link to post Share on other sites
cygny Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 So what about those guys who aren't *funny* - haha-funny, I mean? Are they allowed to have women or are they condemned to a life of being alone? the guy is asking how to meet women. best way is to be able to be somewhere and strike up a light conversation with one. the best way to get her interested in you is to be able to pick up on something in the moment and just say something light and fun that makes her laugh or smile. a little joke or even a sarcastic or light comment. it's called flirting, not being a comedian. you don't have to stand there and entertain her, you just have to know how to make a positive connection that is interesting. if you don't have that skill, it will be harder to meet women and get them interested in you, but not impossible. obviously. any way SF--you are great at funny comments. if you don't have much luck with flirting, it's only because your touch needs to be lighter with them. Link to post Share on other sites
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