Im a 24 year old virgin

[A virgin]

Hi im a 24 year old virgin and since a very long long time ago ive wanted to have sex. But the thing is i am not going to use a prostitute or escort service and i want someone i find attractive. It is extremely depressing. I know beggars cannot be choosers but i would rather go without sex than pay for sex or have sex with someone i find unattractive, but at same time i would rather not live than go another year without sex. What advice would you recommend KEEPING THESE THINGS IN MIND?????

[littlekitty]

So what is the problem? That you don't meet people you find attractive? That you aren't getting offers from them? Do you go out often? Give us a bit more info and we'll try to help.

[A virgin]

So what is the problem? That you don't meet people you find attractive? That you aren't getting offers from them? Do you go out often? Give us a bit more info and we'll try to help.

I try to talk to attractive women but none of them are ever interested in me.

[littlekitty]

Ok, so do you have many friends? Have they given you advice? Do you think it's related to how you look, or how you approach people?

 

What do you try talking about? In what situations do you approach people?

 

Perhaps you are being rather forward, rather than taking your time getting to know someone?

[A virgin]

Ok, so do you have many friends? Have they given you advice? Do you think it's related to how you look, or how you approach people?

I dont know.

 

What do you try talking about? In what situations do you approach people?

Wherever it is natural, for example bars or waiting at a busstop.

 

Perhaps you are being rather forward, rather than taking your time getting to know someone?

I have tried many ways of approaching, including both of these.

[barfool]

If you are really desperate for some sex with no one special then the best bet would be to go to a bar or club. Though the sex you would get with someone who is drunk will not be as good.

[Admiral Thrawn]

If you are really desperate for some sex with no one special then the best bet would be to go to a bar or club. Though the sex you would get with someone who is drunk will not be as good.

 

Why is your alias barfool if I may ask? Nice avatar - what does it mean?

Looks matrix-like.

 

Those places do have a reputation of having easy women, but I also hear that these are some of the most difficult places to meet women, and the most competitive.

[Admiral Thrawn]

Hello A Virgin;

 

I'm a 29 y/o virgin going on 30 soon. For kicks, put an profile on an internet site saying I'm a virgin and you wouldn't believe that there are some girls out there that are actually into being someone's 'first-time' experience and it is their fantasy. After getting enough rejections on the site for being myself, I finally came across something that appeared 'reasonable'.

 

So, best advice, is continue doing what you are doing, talking to attractive girls and work those numbers, and be upfront, be yourself, be forward and to the point. Eventually, something will come out of you and you'll connect with someone. Try interacting with at least 6 attractive girls a day, and if you could have a small-talk, and there is connection, go for the kill. It's in or out and to the next one.

 

Other than this, go into public speaking, or into some hobby that you can express yourself or abilities that girls will admire you and go after you.

[JohnM]

Maybe your'e going after girls out of your league so to speak?

Try talking to those you're still attracted to who aren't the most attractive of the group perhaps.

[jerbear]

JohnM: I like the avatar, very cute dog.

 

A_virgin: being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of or being. I would agree with JohnM in staying within your league but disagree with lowering one standards for that "special night"

 

Barfool has a great idea. I would just interact and talk to them, have some small talk. Some have to talk to you, ie. waitress, bar helps, As a side effect, you get to know what kind of drinks and foods are good.

 

Take some of your female friends out and go experience life. Have them observe you while you are conversing with the women.

 

I haven't done this but a friend of mine did. Another place you may want to goto is Las Vegas. At least you set the environment up, if you want love to be attached, well this isn't for you. Just talk to them, some single ones will approach you at your table. Talk to them, don't be afraid to blow them off.

 

1) it is a different environment; puts you in a different mode

2) goto some clubs in the hotel you are staying in

3) try Bellagio, Luxor, Wynn, Mandalay Bay, MGM just different class of people

4) buy an overpriced bottle or three

5) avoid the girls on the vegas streets

 

On a cheaper route: goto starbucks and talk to some people, quick 3 sentences to get your confidence up.

 

In all, Just go out and talk to them, you might even get a ONS (one night stand) Be blunt to some and you might be surprised. It really depends on what you are doing, who you are meeting, and where.

[SuperMonk]

"Ha Ha"

 

Be a man.

[My_Other_I]

After getting enough rejections on the site for being myself, I finally came across something that appeared 'reasonable'.

 

someTHING that appeared reasonable?! No wonder you were rejected...

 

So, best advice, is continue doing what you are doing, talking to attractive girls and work those numbers, and be upfront, be yourself, be forward and to the point. Eventually, something will come out of you and you'll connect with someone. Try interacting with at least 6 attractive girls a day, and if you could have a small-talk, and there is connection, go for the kill. It's in or out and to the next one.

Why is the focus on attractive girls only? I hope you live in a really big city to be able to talk to 6 ATTRACTIVE girls in one day.

 

Other than this, go into public speaking, or into some hobby that you can express yourself or abilities that girls will admire you and go after you.

That reminds me, have you learned French yet?

 

I dunno, your advice sounds a bit extreme and pushy.

 

A Virgin, obviously you are doing something wrong if the girls don't return your interest. What do you talk about when you approach them? Are you confident? Do you go after their looks only?

[Admiral Thrawn]

someTHING that appeared reasonable?! No wonder you were rejected...

 

Internet dating is in favour for women, not guys, so its a stupid place to look to get laid.

 

Why is the focus on attractive girls only? I hope you live in a really big city to be able to talk to 6 ATTRACTIVE girls in one day.

 

That idea was taken out of a book "How to Succeed with Women" for building up rejection tolerance. Once you are comfortable saying "Hi." or attempting to initiate with six attractive girls a day, the idea is you are simply going to feel more comfortable.

 

Furthermore, the Virgin guy here wants to get laid with an attractive women, so, doesn't it make sence to hit on attractive girls. Not only should our friend hit on them, he should pick on them and poke fun at them and give them attitude. Now, that is extreme and pushy.

 

I dunno, your advice sounds a bit extreme and pushy.

 

It is not really * my * advice. It is from various sources including that book I mentioned, and being pushy and extreme is something that is part of some dating programs. Women like someone coming up to them that makes their heart beat faster and thinks that they are better then they are. That came from 'Seduce and Conquer' CD, which approach may seem extreme or pushy.

 

Whatever is advised here is untested persoanlly, but I'll be trying out a few things myself. But, the saying "Hi' to six attractive women a day stuff does help boost morale up a bit if nothing else.

 

A Virgin, obviously you are doing something wrong if the girls don't return your interest. What do you talk about when you approach them? Are you confident? Do you go after their looks only?

 

You have to treat girls like crap for them to appreciate you. That is also from Seduce and Conquer CD.

[LexiB]

Why is the focus on attractive girls only? I hope you live in a really big city to be able to talk to 6 ATTRACTIVE girls in one day.

 

 

Don't think he was suggesting going after super models, just women that HE finds attractive...which shouldn't be hard to come across.

 

My question to the OP is: u said you've wanted to have sex for a while now. Were you planning on saving yourself before and then had a change of heart? This would better explain why you're having so much trouble apoaching women. B/c if you've been actively seeking intimate relationships for as long as most men have (assuming early teens...or for some birth!), you should have had at least one success by 24:confused:

[My_Other_I]

I hope you got those for free, because otherwise WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY!

Obviously it hasn't worked for you. Let me tell you, girls do not like jerks. Maybe the immature and insecure ones do. Is that a type of girl you are looking for?

[A virgin]

Don't think he was suggesting going after super models, just women that HE finds attractive...which shouldn't be hard to come across.

 

My question to the OP is: u said you've wanted to have sex for a while now. Were you planning on saving yourself before and then had a change of heart? This would better explain why you're having so much trouble apoaching women. B/c if you've been actively seeking intimate relationships for as long as most men have (assuming early teens...or for some birth!), you should have had at least one success by 24:confused:

No i never ever wanted to "save myself" please don't assume this type of stuff, don't try and convince me this is what i want, that is like convincing a muslim to be a christian(don't argue with this concentrate on the thread please). I see no value in saving myself so please keep this ENTIRELY OUT OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE I AM NOT INTERESTED.

 

And you say lower my standards, well the only way i can do that is by neuro-linguistic programming or brainwashing myself, i don't want that. I can't help who i am attracted to, and i only want girls who im attracted to. The ideal way id personally like to lose my virginity is to a girl in a club who wants sex, for a one-night-stand but i honestly don't care so long as it's not a prostitute and don't ask me why this is important because if you don't understand why it IS important i can't explain why it is to you in words. For some reason women and more submissive men seem to have more trouble understanding this than normal men.

[bluetuesday]

i would rather not live than go another year without sex. What advice would you recommend?????

 

you'd rather die than remain a virgin for another year? then i'd recommend therapy. i'm sorry mate, you've gone past desperate and into pitiful. girl's can smell that, you know.

 

it's real easy. stop being so fixated on losing your virginity and start becoming the sort of person girls want to sleep with.

[Becoming]

Now, wherever did Lishy get to?

[Admiral Thrawn]

The ideal way id personally like to lose my virginity is to a girl in a club who wants sex, for a one-night-stand but i honestly don't care so long as it's not a prostitute and don't ask me why this is important because if you don't understand why it IS important i can't explain why it is to you in words. For some reason women and more submissive men seem to have more trouble understanding this than normal men.

 

Try looking at this website http://www.seduceandconquer.com , the concept program is built around club-girls that like sex and the like.

 

In a nutshell, the core idea is reverse psychology. You have to be confident, cocky and funny, approach girls like you dont care how they are going to react, walk away when the going is really good and let them come after you.

 

Also, you would pick on those girls. The rationale for this idea is they are hit on all the time by guys in the club to the point, that the really good ones will probably not even take you on if you were to try to talk to them with some compliment. You would have to turn an insult. Like, for example, "What's with the dress? It looks terrible, did you find it in a dumpster somewhere?" to someone who is wearing a really good dress, you laugh at her, and walk away. Something towards that effect.

 

If a girl gets angry with you, or is 'ruffled', then chances are, she will be storming towards you, and at that point, you basically have in a sence. Or something to that effect. The Seduce and Conquer program is especially designed for club girls. Since I dont personally go to clubs, I wont know how well it works or not. But since club girls likely get hit on by many guys, especially the hot ones you want to have sex with, you need to go reverse.

 

You need to dress and act confidently and give them some style and then it may work. Try it a few times and let us know if this idea works. Try out the website too and see if it helps.

[a4a]

 

You would have to turn an insult. Like, for example, "What's with the dress? It looks terrible, did you find it in a dumpster somewhere?" to someone who is wearing a really good dress, you laugh at her, and walk away. Something towards that effect.

 

If a girl gets angry with you, or is 'ruffled', then chances are, she will be storming towards you, and at that point,

 

storming towards you with a drink prepped to pour it on your head.....

 

WTF ???

 

Word of advice don't take advice from people that have the problem worse than you do now.

 

AT that is by far the most ludicrous thing I have yet to hear. Sorry but it just is.

[Admiral Thrawn]

storming towards you with a drink prepped to pour it on your head.....

 

WTF ???

 

Word of advice don't take advice from people that have the problem worse than you do now.

 

AT that is by far the most ludicrous thing I have yet to hear. Sorry but it just is.

 

Hey, people who try it says it works. Look at it this way, girls at clubs know they could have sex with virtually any guy that they want. So, you have to play like you are unavailable for her, or you are better than she is to elicit interest in her that one is different from the other guys panting like dogs to have sex with her. Instead of grovelling and hitting her, you are saying, you are better than she is, and she is only hot in her mind, and you are not afraid to diss her. That is the concept, and to be sure, our virgin friend has tried being nice, forward, and obvious, now it is time for him to WIN. If he wants to actually get laid, this is one of the most effictive methods in that environment, and it is consistently preached by most dating doctors out there.

 

Double Your Dating - calls it 'neg-reps'.

Seduce and Conquer - says you are picking on her.

 

Displaying a confident, cocky and funny attitude, like you really do not care whether you get laid with her or not.

[crazy_grl]

No i never ever wanted to "save myself" please don't assume this type of stuff, don't try and convince me this is what i want, that is like convincing a muslim to be a christian(don't argue with this concentrate on the thread please). I see no value in saving myself so please keep this ENTIRELY OUT OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE I AM NOT INTERESTED.

 

Woah, lighten up. LexiB just asked you a question. I think you just made more assumptions than she did. I didn't see anybody even remotely trying to convince you to save yourself.

 

I'm curious why losing your virginity is so important to you. You said you'd rather be dead than go another year as a virgin. Sex is great man, but there are other things in life that are just as great and worth living for. If you're giving off this same overzealous, desperate vibe to women you meet, it could be why you're not having any success.

 

I'm not gonna suggest you save yourself for marriage or anything, but if you want to get laid focus on something besides getting some (or at least successfully pretend like you are).

[LexiB]

No i never ever wanted to "save myself" please don't assume this type of stuff, don't try and convince me this is what i want, that is like convincing a muslim to be a christian(don't argue with this concentrate on the thread please). I see no value in saving myself so please keep this ENTIRELY OUT OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE I AM NOT INTERESTED.

 

And you say lower my standards, well the only way i can do that is by neuro-linguistic programming or brainwashing myself, i don't want that. I can't help who i am attracted to, and i only want girls who im attracted to. The ideal way id personally like to lose my virginity is to a girl in a club who wants sex, for a one-night-stand but i honestly don't care so long as it's not a prostitute and don't ask me why this is important because if you don't understand why it IS important i can't explain why it is to you in words. For some reason women and more submissive men seem to have more trouble understanding this than normal men.

 

 

Wow ~ could not have been taken MORE out of context:confused:

 

There's a big difference between "Are You?" and "You Should". The biggest in this case being that I never SAID the second one. FYI, I'd never tell anyone what they "should" do, especially in a situation like this.

 

And when did I tell you to lower your standards?? Did you even read my post?

 

Yeah, lot's of luck to ya

[Guest]

If you want to seduce a girl, act natural and detache yourself from your problems, in a certain way try to act as if you are trying to seduce your 50 th girl or something like that, try to enjoy to talk to girls, don't just do it cause you have to. If you do this your chanses will definitively increase.

 

Best Of Luck!