Maybe its not my business but the woman has no idea who he really is

[SueBee3490]

Tell at least the women at work what type of guy he is. I kind of like Madeleine's suggestion just say "Hey I met (insert his name)'s girlfriend the other day." Then see what their reactions are. I'm not so sure as of yet telling his gf because you are such "new" friends and she may think you are trying to "steal" her bf away so that's why you are telling her this.

 

I'm with all the posters that say tell with all the diseases out there - he's a jerk for putting her at risk.

 

I wish anyone would have told me my bf was cheating on me the whole time we dated. I'm so heartbroken. I dated him 2 1/2 yrs, had unprotected sex (I did use birth control) but I thought we were monogamous so I didn't need to worry about diseases. I would have loved for anyone to tell me what he was doing.

[magda]

If he is jocking 2, 3 different girls at work, wouldn't they know about each other? My guess is, his girlfriend really does have a clue but doesn't want to believe it/chooses to ignore it. So, if you said something, she wouldn't believe you, think you're jealous, etc.

[strangeway]

Yes, perhaps she would think I was being jealous and for this reason alone I have hesitated thus far.....I liked the idea of mentioning the GF to the other women, but at the same time, I dont think 2 of them would really care....One, I know would. But the whole dynamics at the work is really very weird. Its like, everyone knows about each other, but only a little. The girls are friendly but up to a point. I am already starting to see a mini competition going on, but in a friendly way...

 

Maybe I should wait until he is present and say directly to him (in front of the others) "Hey, guess who I met"??? and then be like "i didnt know you had a GF"! "I guess I didnt think you were the type because you seem like such a player"!! and then go on to talk about the GF, what she looks like, how long they have been together ecetera with the others.....

[BUTAFLY]

Strangeway,

congrats!!! You get IT. Don't be fooled by these people who live their lives in fear of others may think.

 

I also wish some one would have told me.

 

And magda I was one of those girls from work, we worked in the same building -not in the same department, So people may have suspected us together but it wasn't that obvious.

 

Strangeway,

when you tell the girl at work whos flipping though bride magazines tell her directly, so their is no misunderstanding what your talking about.

 

In hindsight there was one man i didn't really know, but have seen around in the building, who tried to 'warn me' i guess, but it was so vague. I didn't understand what he was trying to say. I did question my BF about it and he dismissed it and explained it away.

[hyakku]

I appologize Hyakku,.. I didn't realize you were a high school boy....in that case you statments are excused.

 

blindotter is correct that is a good way to handle the situation. but i would still tell the girls at work though.

 

Yea just like that player thread where they said I was too young to understand and then a woman who was married to a player shut them all up, I love validation .

 

But really, why are you getting into their lives? To me its starting to seem like you're jealous and want this guy. I mean think about all the women who get cheated on EVERY DAY, are you going to go find their boyfriends and expose their business? YOU STILL haven't said if he's slept with any of the women at work, if he's just flirting with them, you really need help. Really. Because if you have seen nothing physical, there's no point in causing havoc in 5 (BF, Girlfriend, and three women at work), over some casual flirting.

 

You say human beings need to look out for each other as a whole. I am an American. Now we Americans are fighting a war in Iraq and one of the primary reasons (I'm not going to get into the oil thing, because most people just shout, "ITS ABOUT OIL" when they know nothing about oil in the middle east and why it wouldn't be too profitable to go for Iraq for oil) is to set an Iraqi standard of better living. Great, now we have a ****ing war because people BUTT into other people's business. Vietnam? Butting into people's business. Almost all wars are started by someone getting involved where they weren't needed. LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE. THEY AREN'T CHILDREN, THEY CAN HANDLE THEMSELVES.

 

same situation as this GF except she is getting emotionally raped and beaten and not given a fair shake

 

LOL. What!? Emotionally raped and beaten? Now you're taking this WAYYYY too far, people break up and divorce every day. There is a HUGE difference between a child getting punched or a woman getting raped, and a woman's boyfriend flirting with other women. Those are two different ballparks, in fact to quote Samuel from Pulp Fiction, "That's not even the same f*cking sport".

 

OH and the statement Ignorace is bliss....are you kidding me. Information/ education is the only why you can have control of your own life. If YOU (hyakku) chose to be ingnorant that is YOU...DO NOT assume everyone else is as stupid at that!

 

Calling someone you don't know ignorant is almost as foolish as disregarding someone's knowledge because of age, both are follies that only the haughty can truly make. The self fulfilled person seeks to learn from people from every path in life, but I don't think you've reached that point yet. Ther eiwll be a time when you understand this statement, because right now I can tell you don't. Ignorance is bliss does not mean to be stupid and oblivious to everything in the outside world. A simple example would be a child raised not knowing about the dangers of nuclear weapons and/or Biological weapons. That child has no idea that in the blink of an eye his entire existence, everything that has ever come to being around or in front of him could be wiped out in a single blast. He doesn't realize that one moment he can be sitting on the computer and the next a pathological agent fill his lungs and burn his insides to shreds. Would you like to tell a child that they could be killed where they stand in a few moments if a few people so choose? Its the same concept, if she doesn't know, its not hurting her. People's perception is almost always stronger then truth. What she perceives is that she has a happy, monogomous relationship, what is truth is that she MAY not (we still haven't heard any validation whether or not there has been physical relations between this man and these women) be in a monogomous relationship, BUT SHE IS HAPPY THINKING THIS WAY, why do people want to create more pessimists? She is happy as can be now, do you want to make her miserable so she can post on a board like this about how she was cheated on for 2 years and how her "friend" finally told her? Again it happens every day, its not your duty to go around ruining people's relationships because of your own set of morals, you aren't in their life, don't butt in when its not needed.

 

But if you do tell her, please post the results I'm very interested in them.

[strangeway]

Hyakku probably has a GF at home and is worried that I might blow his cover....

 

To clarify what I have "seen" (as in with my own two eyes) between this man and these women:

body brushing (the entire body pressed against another), massages, neck kissing, rubbing, chasing and poking and pinching and pulling and whatnot...

 

This is what I have "noticed" besides the above mentioned:

Him and girl 1 in his parked car, him and girl 2 driving away from work together, (and her returning disheveled with huge smile on face an hour later) Him and girl 3 hiding out in private areas of the work, Him and girl 2 making plans to meet up after work,

 

This wasnt a one time occurance, this is pretty much a daily routine.

The only reason why I even notice it is because I happen to speak with these girls very frequently,and all of us work closely together and it is hard to miss when one of them goes sneaking off with him and when you see her again she is in some secluded spot with him, or coming back looking like a disheveled mess, and the rest of the girls are grilling each other for the rest of the day.

 

Because I am quiet, I hear everything.

 

Now who is overreacting??:

A simple example would be a child raised not knowing about the dangers of nuclear weapons and/or Biological weapons. That child has no idea that in the blink of an eye his entire existence, everything that has ever come to being around or in front of him could be wiped out in a single blast. He doesn't realize that one moment he can be sitting on the computer and the next a pathological agent fill his lungs and burn his insides to shreds. Would you like to tell a child that they could be killed where they stand in a few moments if a few people so choose?

 

When I was trying to make a "simple example" you cut me down. There is a HUGE difference between this "ignorance is bliss" situation and a child being raised not knowing about the dangers of nuclear weapons...

 

 

LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE. THEY AREN'T CHILDREN, THEY CAN HANDLE THEMSELVES.

 

OH but they are acting like children, is there a difference???

 

He obviously isnt handling himself like an adult.

 

She is happy as can be now, do you want to make her miserable so she can post on a board like this about how she was cheated on for 2 years and how her "friend" finally told her?

 

so I should wait and keep my mouth shut so instead of two years, she can post in 6 years crying about how she was cheated on for 6 years and how she wished someone would of told her?????

 

At the very least, I think the other girls need to know whats up.....

 

But really, why are you getting into their lives? To me its starting to seem like you're jealous and want this guy.

 

If you have read my post thoroughly, you would see that he HAS come on to me and I CUT HIM DOWN.

 

NEXT

[MrsHellFire]

Yes you did say in your original post that you became good friends with her (even though earlier you said that you only known her for supposedly 2 days- how you can become good friends in that short period of time makes no sense):

 

"I ran into her while I was at the store and we both got to talking. It sounds strange, but we got to be good friends in such a short time...."

 

 

And no, she won't believe you after she talks with her boyfriend. All her boyfriend has to say is that you are trying to break them up.

 

What a coincidink that you just happened to bump into his gf in town?? Sorry, I just don't believe this thread.

[strangeway]

What a coincidink that you just happened to bump into his gf in town?? Sorry, I just don't believe this thread.

 

Well, thank goodness I am not going to lose sleep over what you believe.....

 

and no, if you live where I live, it wouldnt be a "coincidink"....In fact, it happens all the time. There is not some strange phenomena, its a normal occurance.....Its called "a small town"

 

And if you dont believe this thread, then why are you commenting on it? Go spread your bitterness elsewhere...

 

 

Yes you did say in your original post that you became good friends with her (even though earlier you said that you only known her for supposedly 2 days- how you can become good friends in that short period of time makes no sense):

 

It is beyond me why you would want to sit there and pick at my posting.....

 

allow me to put it in simple terms then:

 

Havent you EVER met someone that you connected with right away and you felt like you have known them your whole life??? Thats all I meant by "good friends"...nothing more, nothing less....

 

Instead of attacking the way I wrote my thread, why dont you respond with a way I could possibly help/not help these individuals for the benefit of all?

 

 

To the rest of you:

 

I think I have decided to mention the GF in front of him and the rest of the chicks....

 

I am a little embarrassed to do this, because at least superficially I know it is none of my business, .......but what if I help someone out in the process??? I dont like to cause problems as much as the next person, but damn, I am tired of people making mockeries of relationships...whatever, i am conflicted....

[MrsHellFire]

Then later you said :

 

"Second of all, I never mentioned GOOD FRIENDS...."

 

Can't remember all your lies?

 

 

Why are you so damn obsessed with this man at your work? Why are you watching his every move? You seem to have a big obsession with this guy to know what you do about him.

[filarena]

Strangeway,

 

I think you have to determine is whether the people involved would prefer to know about him. Obviously you can't know that for certain without being inside their heads, but the greater your belief that if they don't know, it's because they are ignoring the obvious, the more you can be confident that they are choosing not to know.

 

The girls at work don't seem to be operating under a great lack of information. Whatever they are choosing to do with him, they probably would choose to do even knowing he had a girlfriend. It doesn't sound, from what you describe, like they are very likely to believe/expect a long term committed relationship with this man. Never mind them.

 

As for the girlfriend? I don't think you need to decide whether to tell her or not this instant. My advice would be get to know her better and see if it looks like all the clues are there and she's just turning a blind eye to them. If so, she's unlikely to appreciate your intervention. If, on the other hand, it looks as though he really is deceiving her to the point that she couldn't ever be expected to have figured it out on her own, that's a different story.

[Becoming]

All of you have valid points.....I dont feel I could just turn my back on this situation because "its not my business"....Because I am privvy to this information, it now, most certainly IS MY BUSINESS...

 

Hey, a woman gets beaten and raped in the streets at night, I happen to see from my window as this is going on.....

 

Should I leave her there to suffer and not call 911 or help her in any way because "its not my business"?

 

(same situation as this GF except she is getting emotionally raped and beaten and not given a fair shake)

 

A child gets punched in the face at a supermarket by his father. He is hit so hard it causes his nose to bleed. Should I not interfere because "its not my business"

 

I think we owe it to each other as HUMANS to help each other out of a potentially dangerous (as some of you pointed out, diseases, woman problems, ecetera) situation.

 

Too often, people delude themselves into thinking "its not my problem"...if you coexist in this universe with another living human being, guess what??? IT IS YOUR PROBLEM...

 

We tend not to think twice about hurting each other but when it comes to helping each other its "not my business" or "my problem"......

 

Hyakku and Guesti9, Do you think it makes it any better that I dont know the GF very well??

Oh, so if I did know her very well THEN I could potentially help her out??

But not until then??? THis kind of thinking is purely selfish....

 

The fact remains that what he is doing is deluding a lot of people, including some innocent girl who pines away for him in her make believe house picturing white weddings and dozens of screaming children.

 

Guest, whoever you are, Very well said.....

 

You very eloquently answered your own question right here. You have to act in accord with your values.

 

Guest (whom I hope becomes a regular!) did indeed say it well:

 

You should sit her down, tell her where you work, and that you know her BF. She will be upset, obviously, so tell her you clammed up because you were so shocked when you realised the situation. Tell her that you needed to think about it before telling her the truth because there exists a sensitive issue at work that she should know about.

 

You won't be able to be friends with her in the future when (not if, but when) she finds out you knew what this guy was doing all along and didn't tell her. You need to tell her ASAP so she can decide for herself whether she wants to waste any more of her life.

[hyakku]

Hyakku probably has a GF at home and is worried that I might blow his cover....

 

To clarify what I have "seen" (as in with my own two eyes) between this man and these women:

body brushing (the entire body pressed against another), massages, neck kissing, rubbing, chasing and poking and pinching and pulling and whatnot...

 

This is what I have "noticed" besides the above mentioned:

Him and girl 1 in his parked car, him and girl 2 driving away from work together, (and her returning disheveled with huge smile on face an hour later) Him and girl 3 hiding out in private areas of the work, Him and girl 2 making plans to meet up after work,

 

This wasnt a one time occurance, this is pretty much a daily routine.

The only reason why I even notice it is because I happen to speak with these girls very frequently,and all of us work closely together and it is hard to miss when one of them goes sneaking off with him and when you see her again she is in some secluded spot with him, or coming back looking like a disheveled mess, and the rest of the girls are grilling each other for the rest of the day.

 

Because I am quiet, I hear everything.

 

Now who is overreacting??:

 

 

When I was trying to make a "simple example" you cut me down. There is a HUGE difference between this "ignorance is bliss" situation and a child being raised not knowing about the dangers of nuclear weapons...

 

 

 

 

OH but they are acting like children, is there a difference???

 

He obviously isnt handling himself like an adult.

 

 

 

so I should wait and keep my mouth shut so instead of two years, she can post in 6 years crying about how she was cheated on for 6 years and how she wished someone would of told her?????

 

At the very least, I think the other girls need to know whats up.....

 

 

 

If you have read my post thoroughly, you would see that he HAS come on to me and I CUT HIM DOWN.

 

NEXT

 

 

Sorry I didn't give you the answer you wanted. You obviously have made your decision, now you are just keeping this thread open for attention. Don't get angry when I post my point of view.

 

To your evidence, you still have seen nothing clear except the neck kissing bit, besides that, you have no PROOF. You are just going on a whim, sure I'm not going to say it DOESN'T look like he's cheating, but at the same time, you don't know for 100% that he is. So now you are going to ruin their relationship on a whim? Your choice.

 

I gave an example, you used a metaphor. But my example actually follows the concept that if one is not aware of something, then one is emotionless to it, therefore you cannot feel fear, anger, pain, etc, to something you do not know exists. You on the otherhand said that the equivalent of a woman being forcibly beaten or raped is the equivalent of a woman being cheated on which happens everyday. Most women I believe would rather be cheated on than raped, those again, are not even the same sport.

 

He isn't handling himself like an adult? Cheating is generally associated with being more towards the adult end of the dating spectrum.

 

If this guy is cheating, chances are he isn't going to marry her, he can have more fun being single and dating. Most people cheat when they are married after they have been married, most people aren't cheating going into marriage.

 

 

And you're evidence supports the theory more that you are having a bit of an obsession. I'm not saying you are, but it really seems like it.

 

Again, don't get mad if I don't tell you what you don't wanna hear, I have a nack for doing that.

[Guest]

If this guy is cheating, chances are he isn't going to marry her, he can have more fun being single and dating. Most people cheat when they are married after they have been married, most people aren't cheating going into marriage.

 

Are you for real? This is total bullshido.

 

Generally, people seem to look at this in one of two ways:

1. if the poster has been cheated on, they say definitely find some way to tell the GF, you'll save her years of heartache

2. if they haven't, they say it's none of your business, you're just jealous or want to get into his pants, blah blah

 

People who have been cheated on may have a better handle on what a person who is being or has been cheated on might want to know. Dontcha think?

 

You don't have to blurt it out, but sometimes it's okay to just do a public service.

[Delectable]

Why don't you make plans to hang out with her AND her bf so he will be aware of A. your friendship B. that he has been busted and then C. tell him to come clean or you will let her know?

[CoffeeHouseHumor]

The last time I told a girl something of this matter... I got my ass beat in a bathroom stall.... but you know what? I'd do it again in a heartbeat... plus I know Muay Thai now

[loony]

I'd follow Blind_Otter's suggestion. Avoiding to talk about a specific topic often will pique people's interest. If she really wants to know what is going on with her boyfriend she will ask you, if she actually prefers to keep her eyes shut, she will not notice the hints.

 

To the wannabe pickup artist on this thread:

Guys who have discovered David D, Mystery, Ross Jeffries, Styles, and whoever these pickup artists are often lose a sense of what is morally and ethically right. Anything can be justified with evolution, survival of the fittest, "women are just as bad as men", "if she has a boyfriend so what? you didn't force her to cheat on him, you just offer her something better", etc. while the truth is moral that as an inconvenience is cast aside in order to be more selfish without feeling regrets when you objectify and use someone. People lose their uniqueness, because they are so interchangeable, if it's not this girl, it's another one. Even a puddle has more emotional depth than a pickup artist.

[SueBee3490]

To your evidence, you still have seen nothing clear except the neck kissing bit, besides that, you have no PROOF.

 

Hate to break this to you hyakku - but kissing this girl on the neck is CHEATING - that is PROOF!

 

If this guy is cheating, chances are he isn't going to marry her, he can have more fun being single and dating. Most people cheat when they are married after they have been married, most people aren't cheating going into marriage..

 

Also, I'm living proof of being heartbroken that the guy I was dating, exclusively (at least I thought it was!), was cheating on me. Let me tell you it is devastating. And yes it is stupid because all he had to do was tell me "bye" and that would be it - no strings. But do you know what he tells me as to why he didn't tell me bye? He loves me and I was "too good for him" so evidently all the whores he was seeing didn't have the looks, morals, personality, etc. like I do. So yes a person can be cheating on their fiance and then go ahead and marry that person anyway knowing the other doesn't know what they were doing. I didn't find out what my H was doing while we were dating until after we married. Maybe this gf is trusting and in love like I was with my bf. So I hope Strangeway finds a way to let this woman know what's going on so she won't end up like me.

[strangeway]

Thank you everyone for your helpful (and not so helpful) comments.

I have come to a decision as to what I am going to do.

I think, during lunch (as that is when everyone is together) I will bring up this GF in front of them all, the guy and other chicks. I am thinking to talk to him directly, like saying "hey, I met your GF the other day"....so I dont appear catty or i am trying to steal the other girls "meat" so to speak...

 

SOme of you are right about approaching the girlfriend, and I do feel embarrassed, and out of place right now with her and there is no saying how she will percieve me.

I think all around, the best bet is to just put it out there to the others, and see what happens from there....

I know, it is the cowards approach, and I am not one for being such a coward, but the truth is this is a tricky situation....

 

Oh, and hyakku,this:

 

You obviously have made your decision, now you are just keeping this thread open for attention.

 

Was completely ridiculous and uncalled for.....I have no control over who posts where to what, and furthermore, I didnt realize there was a way to "close threads"...if there is, someone out there, let me know so I dont get all of the attention....

[strangeway]

while the truth is moral that as an inconvenience is cast aside in order to be more selfish without feeling regrets when you objectify and use someone. People lose their uniqueness, because they are so interchangeable, if it's not this girl, it's another one. Even a puddle has more emotional depth than a pickup artist.

loony

 

VERY well said....

 

 

 

He isn't handling himself like an adult? Cheating is generally associated with being more towards the adult end of the dating spectrum.

hyakku

 

No, cheating is generally associated with being emotionally unstable and immature with an inability to take into consideration the other party's feelings, prefering only to fufill their own selfish needs, much like a child in a sandbox who takes the toy away from the other child because he "wants it"

[hyakku]

 

Oh, and hyakku,this:

 

 

 

Was completely ridiculous and uncalled for.....I have no control over who posts where to what, and furthermore, I didnt realize there was a way to "close threads"...if there is, someone out there, let me know so I dont get all of the attention....

 

But you HAVE made your decision, I think you made it toward the end of page 1. I can't tell you what to do or not to do, but why are you going to flame someone when they don't give you the answer you wanted on a forum. That's life move on.

 

No, cheating is generally associated with being emotionally unstable and immature with an inability to take into consideration the other party's feelings, prefering only to fufill their own selfish needs, much like a child in a sandbox who takes the toy away from the other child because he "wants it"

 

Now that is TOTALLY untrue. People cheat generally when one person isn't holding up the other side of the relationship or the relationship is going dull. There are of course, like you say, some that just want it, but when a man or woman both find someone that can satisfy their needs, there IS no need to cheat, but I agree, cheating is usually just a cowards way of breaking up with a woman or man. I mean they could just break up but they choose to play both sides.

 

Still though I gotta give it to you strangeway, your metaphors always give me a little chuckle.

 

To the wannabe pickup artist on this thread:

Guys who have discovered David D, Mystery, Ross Jeffries, Styles, and whoever these pickup artists are often lose a sense of what is morally and ethically right. Anything can be justified with evolution, survival of the fittest, "women are just as bad as men", "if she has a boyfriend so what? you didn't force her to cheat on him, you just offer her something better", etc. while the truth is moral that as an inconvenience is cast aside in order to be more selfish without feeling regrets when you objectify and use someone. People lose their uniqueness, because they are so interchangeable, if it's not this girl, it's another one. Even a puddle has more emotional depth than a pickup artist.

 

Wrong, I don't wanna be a pick up artist, if guys wanna go pick up women for one night stands thats great for them. But there is a certain amount of "picking up" you have to do in the world to meet new people. I mean you have to go out and MEET people in order to form relationships (be it friendly or sexually).

 

Now to the morals thing, what you are saying is that your morals and ethics are better than mine. In your eyes sure, but you are doing the same thing you are accusing me of, justifying that your morals are right. I personally feel that they ARE right. If a woman cheats on her BF with me, that ISN'T my fault. Simalirly (that has to be a spelling error), if my girlfriend cheats on me, I don't get angry because all it means to me is that I didn't do my job properly and continued to give her the fun that she had in the beginning of the relationship. And yes there are another 3 billion women out there, its not like when we all lived in a few tribes and if you lost 1 there was only another 10 women to pick from. Get real, there's 6 billion people out there, there are a TON of women, to be perfectly honest, everyone is unique, but that doesn't mean that there aren't people that can't be better fitting to your tastes or another woman out there. Those stuck in the scarcity mentality often think that it is cold hearted to say, "Well that lady didn't work out, time to go for one of the other 2,999,999,999 out there". BUT ITS TRUTH. Why should I waste all my time on ONE woman if it isn't going to work out and its wasting both of our times. There's millions upon billions out there. Inversly (another error) if a woman said to me that she was breaking up with me for another man, she has helped me because I now know of course that I can improve and become better. People have a negative out look on life, "Ah man it didn't work out what's wrong with me." I love when ANYTHING happens to me in life be it positive or negative because I can go, "alright great, time for improvement to keep me on my path to become sulf fulfilled and totally satisified with my life". I think that's what many people are angry about, that I can look at the negative and be happy because its going to further me on my path in life.

 

Using someone? If I am telling 100% truth how am I USING anyone? And again, if you say I lack emotion for not thinking in a scarcity mentality, then damn right I do, I'm not going to whine and cry over one person when there are 3 billion (and expected to be 11billion in a few decades, thats even better, more people to choose from).

[strangeway]

Hyakku,

 

When you fall in love with someone, you will truly get it, and the other 2,999,999,999 will pale in comparison to her.

[hyakku]

Hyakku,

 

When you fall in love with someone, you will truly get it, and the other 2,999,999,999 will pale in comparison to her.

 

And I agree with you 100%, but people should NOT treat every relationship as if this is their soulmate, because it puts too much importance on ONE outcome, and you become blind to all other options. Why do you think the divorce and break up rate is at an all time high? People are "falling in love" too quickly, they aren't taking the approach of, "Well I can take it or leave it, there are always more people out there". They are taking the approach of, "Oh my goodness if this relationship doesn't work out, its the end of the world, I have to mope for at least 2 years before I can get back into dating and then repeat the process until I finally just settle down with another person that's tired of searching around so we'll both just settle.

[a4a]

And I agree with you 100%, but people should NOT treat every relationship as if this is their soulmate, because it puts too much importance on ONE outcome, and you become blind to all other options. Why do you think the divorce and break up rate is at an all time high? People are "falling in love" too quickly, they aren't taking the approach of, "Well I can take it or leave it, there are always more people out there". They are taking the approach of, "Oh my goodness if this relationship doesn't work out, its the end of the world, I have to mope for at least 2 years before I can get back into dating and then repeat the process until I finally just settle down with another person that's tired of searching around so we'll both just settle.

 

Oh so it is the GF at homes fault he is cheating/sexual flirting/ kissing necks/ and maybe more because : she is not providing proper attention to him? She is dull perhaps? So this gives him a right to just say F ya, I will do what I want. But most likely still lie to her and let her think she is his "soulmate".

 

I would only question if their relationship is of a serious nature, not just a weekend or prearranged open sort.

[hyakku]

Oh so it is the GF at homes fault he is cheating/sexual flirting/ kissing necks/ and maybe more because : she is not providing proper attention to him? She is dull perhaps? So this gives him a right to just say F ya, I will do what I want. But most likely still lie to her and let her think she is his "soulmate".

 

I would only question if their relationship is of a serious nature, not just a weekend or prearranged open sort.

 

We don't know if it is or isn't, but I did not say that you guys keep twisting my words. What I said is GENERALLY not always cheat for those reasons. I agree with you IF he is cheating he should man up and break it off, but we still don't know 100% if he is or isn't (though I agree the neck kissing bit is questionable.).

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We don't know if it is or isn't, but I did not say that you guys keep twisting my words. What I said is GENERALLY not always cheat for those reasons. I agree with you IF he is cheating he should man up and break it off, but we still don't know 100% if he is or isn't (though I agree the neck kissing bit is questionable.).

 

It is a tad more than questionable. Kissing another persons neck at work or even at a bar is a very intimate act. Unless of course a snake bit the person and the poison must be sucked out........then ok.

 

Body pressing....... hummm I do not think they are working in such tight quarters as would be lets say a very small submarine.

 

I am really amazed how differently people see "cheating". perhaps that is worthy of its own thread "cheating - defined"